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Old 7th October 2011, 09:20   #136
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For nudge bar, I think I may go to IG Accessories and get them fixed there itself. They have Highlander readily available. Let me check.
Also, can we fit the Hella Switch in the stock location on brown dashboard instead of drilling hole below steering. I have two dummy slots that can be used.
Here you go , the red arrow shows the clamp which is connected to the chassis behind the grill and the black arrow indicates the clamp designed to connect to the nudge guard.

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Here you go , the red arrow shows the clamp which is connected to the chassis behind the grill and the black arrow indicates the clamp designed to connect to the nudge guard.

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Thanks for the picture. I would like to know any contacts who can do this in Bangalore. Seems to be good fit for heavy Hellas.
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Thanks for the picture. I would like to know any contacts who can do this in Bangalore. Seems to be good fit for heavy Hellas.
Contact blueraven316 from the forum , he should be able to assist you. He got my clamps made.
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Hella 700FF:
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Carry Boy fitted:
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Making L-clamps to fit Hellas:
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Final Closure:
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I was not able to source Barri Nuts. Its very easy to lift-off these hellas by any expert mechanic. Need to find some solution for this.
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@BlackStallion, where did you get the clamps done, and how much did you pay for it ?
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@BlackStallion, where did you get the clamps done, and how much did you pay for it ?
It is big L shape clamp with holes at either side of it. IMHO such type of clamp would vibrate when vehicle is in movement. Such types of clamps any fabrication shop can make. I feel there should be some support added to front of clamp or front portion should be attached and fixed to carryboy.

What do you think about below setup in JeepCaptain's bolero? PIC courtsey JeepCaptain from the thread Humbleh'd II.

Benefit of below setup is, it is supported by rigid frame at below and clamps can be attached (like in Scorpio above) to stabilize at above. This will reduce vibration very much. Anyway, such setup also can be chrome painted for better aesthetics.


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What do you think by below setup in JeepCaptain's bolero? PIC courtsey JeepCaptain from the thread Humbleh'd II.
For vehicles that have a pipe based front guard, it is easy to mount the lamps on this guard, like in the pic above. Clamps are readily available. See below pic for clamp fixed to the lamp. The " ) " section sits against the front nudge/crash-guard. The crash/nudge guard already has holes with threads which can be used to fix the lamp.

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Cost of this clamp: Approx Rs.40/- for the pair.

The problem is for cars, or for SUV's that have a Carryboy style nudge guard, like on Riju's Scorp.
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blackstallion am sure those clamps will vibrate and you would require a pair of clamps running to the nudge guard. When on pothole ridden roads you can actually see the lights vibrating.

OT : Love the front of the scorp' without the front bumper. Looks menacing.
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@rjstyle and @condor:
I got fixed near Koramangala BDA complex. There is a garage guy whom was referred by Konark Auto. I checked with Sai Colorium and quite a few places. No one was ready to do it. Not sure why. And they were quoting Rs.2000. Checked with Evo, but no response. Even IG and SKS refused to do such work.

This guy fitted the clamps and wiring for Rs. 1500 in 3hrs. I know its costly but I had no option. I checked in good roads, potholed roads and bad roads. The lights are not vibrating at all. They are strongly fitted. The 700FF are not so heavy as in Rally 3000s.
I found it apt fitting for the lights and the nudge bar.

Only issue I have now is trying a lock nut for those Hellas.
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I checked in good roads, potholed roads and bad roads. The lights are not vibrating at all. They are strongly fitted. The 700FF are not so heavy as in Rally 3000s.
I found it apt fitting for the lights and the nudge bar.

Only issue I have now is trying a lock nut for those Hellas.
Congrats! I am also eager to install Hella 700FF or Rally 3000 fo rmy Scorpio. But i am worried about the theft because i some times park in open place. Is there any way of making this installation theft proof.
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@NightHawk:
I have heard about something called Barri Nuts. Its often used as lock nuts for such aux light installations. I was not able to source them in Bangalore.
The fitting guy had one of the older lock nuts of some kind. So, got it fixed.
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I tried to install my 500FF's last week. But looks like I didnt get the switch connections correct. Need to know where to connect the 3 pins of the switch. One is ground, one would go to the relay. The 3rd pin - would go to the power source, but where ?

One option is to connect it to the head-lamp on/off switch, so that the Hella's come on only when the head-lights are switched on. I tried to take a tap off the fog-lamp switch (on the dash-board), but could not figure out which wire to tap.

Any body with information on how exactly to connect the on/off switch - pls post.

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Any body with information on how exactly to connect the on/off switch - pls post.
Found one wiring diagram. Now need to figure out where does the source get connected to (the left pin in the diagram here)

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I have identified two lamps one the HellaFF50 and the other the Neolite (image below).
@Torquecurve, Pls go for branded ones - either Hella or Neolite or any other. Avoid the cheaper ones. You will need clamps, so talk to the same accessories shop where you buy these. For the lamps you have selected, the bumper may be the ideal location. But personally, I am not sure how much such lamps will help, especially because of the height at which they are mounted.

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Saw this thread now .I had been using Hella Micro DE fog lamps in my Zen since 2001 .These fog lamps were so good that I had ince driven from madikeri to Mangalore using only these as my headlights conked off when I hit a pothole in the ghats !

These worked fine till about 2007 when I like an idiot went and fixed 100 W bulbs in these superb fog lamps .The projector glass just cracked under the heat of the 100 W bulbs and slowly with time ,the reflectors also became useless .

I shall be buying a new pair of the Micro DE lamps very soon .

I would always prefer round fog lamps to a rectangular one .
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Hi fellow BHPians,I have a Safari TCIC EX 4x4 with HELLA 500 auxillary lamps fitted. I am looking to change to the HELLA 700FF lights and was wondering if anyone in this forum has used these lights and can give me some feedback as to their performance. The reason I ask is that I have been doing some looking up and the FF reflectors utilise ( i.e. reflect) about 51% of the light emitted from the blub and the normal ones i.e. the old 500 for example utilise only about 28% of the light emitted and the rest is in a way absorbed by the reflector. But before I go in for them i want to know how much of this is true and just what i the difference one experiences in real life situation.

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