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Old 28th September 2011, 12:36   #121
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blackstallion76, I would like to pass on which many have advised me. Do not Drill Plastic/sheet metal and fix Lamps on that, It results in irritating dancing beams and also fixture falls apart after some time. Good practice is have rigid bracket well bolted to some rigid part of the Body. Hella lamp weighs about 4.4 lb so totals about 4/5 KGs. Bracket and Body Part on which bracket fits should be capable of handling Dynamic Load of these lamps and Bracket wt together in long run. Hope this helps.
Right. Fix a rigid bracket to a rigid area, else it will vibrate on uneven roads. Mine is a rigid bracket, but welded to a not-so-rigid structure in front of the radiator area!! (damn that tinkering guy) So it vibrates at idle.
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For those of you who think that the bumper needs to be drilled, please check these images and enlarge them. I don't have a picture which shows how the mounting clamps are made, however this should give you a perspective as to how it needs to be done.
Nice you put pictures, not very clear to me. First impression is lights are mounted on nudge bar. Need to closely inspect your ride.

If you could manage closeup picture of mounts and put here, it will be of great help.


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Right. Fix a rigid bracket to a rigid area, else it will vibrate on uneven roads...
I had horrible time suppressing vibration of aux lights on my 800, even it was having nudge bar. Three times I fabricated brackets and at last, I got success. I do not want to repeat same exercise in my Safari, so bit cautious this time and want quality work for this.

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Riju - those pics are not helping. Pls take some close-ups .. atleast with a phone cam so that they get a better idea.
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Right. Fix a rigid bracket to a rigid area, else it will vibrate on uneven roads. Mine is a rigid bracket, but welded to a not-so-rigid structure in front of the radiator area!! (damn that tinkering guy) So it vibrates at idle.
If you see Figo Pictures then in front where Number Plate is Fixed, behind that there is a dogbar/bullbar which is meant for protecting radiator and Fixed rigidly to body. I planning to Fix brackets on it since it has ready holes at 11.5" and 14.5" from centre on left and right of centre. What I have planned is Drill hole on plastic cover and weld nuts on Dogbar holes. Then Pass bolts from bracket and Plastic cover and tighten them in nuts welded on DogBar. The Bracket and Plastic Cover will be sandwiched between Nut and Bolt. Hope this will make a very rigid support and wont vibrate with engine. However I will check this assumption by touching the dogbar when Engine is idling before I order the Lamps otherwise I have to find out some other area to Fix them. If not I have to drop the idea of Aux Lamps altogether.

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I had horrible time suppressing vibration of aux lights on my 800, even it was having nudge bar. Three times I fabricated brackets and at last, I got success. I do not want to repeat same exercise in my Safari, so bit cautious this time and want quality work for this.
I would imagine fitting auxiliary lights on a nudge bar would make them vibrate with the chassis but the vibrations can be dampened by using a soft material (like the white ring in CD/DVD boxes) as a washer when fitting the lights.

I have been seeing a lot of vehicles with Hella lights in Hyderabad with varying setup configurations. There was a Maruti Esteem with the lights mounted right on the front bumper. Another Maruti Esteem had the lights fitted on the bonnet near the grille (I couldn't tell if it was on the grille or next to it though). Then there was what looked like a rectangular contraption built by welding to hold the lights. I saw a Maruti 800 with Hella lights mounted onto a nudge bar. All of them were spotted either in Ameerpet or near the Jubilee Hills checkpost.

Of the lot, I like the idea of fitting it onto the bonnet because the lights would be less likely to be stolen.
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Checked out Hella 700FF at Reliance Autozone at KH Road and Yediyur. Both of them have them but they have removed packing. I did not like the way it was kept without proper packing.

Found one distributor near JC road who has them factory packed with 5% less price than Reliance. Will get them this weekend.

On the nudge bar fitting, I called up Sai Colorium about the price. They quoted 1600 for clamps to be fitted and it will take one full day. They have asked me to come next week. But, none of them are telling me whats the design of those clamps or brackets.

Checked out CarryBoy Nudge Bars but its expensive. Hot tracks is quoting 14K.
At India Garage accessories, they quoted 11K for a Highlander brand PU material.
I also happened to check nudge bars at Tata Motors, they have CarryBoy only with fog lights quoted 13.5K. Not the plain ones. Now i am confused which one to pickup.
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Found one distributor near JC road who has them factory packed with 5% less price than Reliance. Will get them this weekend.
Price quoted and address please ..

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On the nudge bar fitting, I called up Sai Colorium about the price. They quoted 1600 for clamps to be fitted and it will take one full day. They have asked me to come next week. But, none of them are telling me whats the design of those clamps or brackets.
1600/- for clamps is sure a rip off my friend. It's expensive and shouldnt cost you more than 600-700 bucks.

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Checked out CarryBoy Nudge Bars but its expensive. Hot tracks is quoting 14K. At India Garage accessories, they quoted 11K for a Highlander brand PU material.
I also happened to check nudge bars at Tata Motors, they have CarryBoy only with fog lights quoted 13.5K. Not the plain ones. Now i am confused which one to pickup.
Highlander is about 10k from what I know so you might want to scout around a bit more in town. Have the seen the carryboy with the fogs, no good apart from the looks.

I will try and post a pic of the clamps tomorrow morning.
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JC Road Distributor:
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They quoted Rs. 4800. May be we can negotiated more.

For nudge bar, I think I may go to IG Accessories and get them fixed there itself. They have Highlander readily available. Let me check.
Also, can we fit the Hella Switch in the stock location on brown dashboard instead of drilling hole below steering. I have two dummy slots that can be used.

Off-topic: Which is better horn for scorpio other than stock ones? I will retain the stock but was thinking of fitting Red Grill or trumpet horn with switch for highways. Both are 118db.
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They quoted Rs. 4800. May be we can negotiated more.
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Also, can we fit the Hella Switch in the stock location on brown dashboard instead of drilling hole below steering. I have two dummy slots that can be used.
Assuming that you drive a scorpio, use the fog lamps switch itself. I have connected my hella 3003's to existing fog switch. So when the OEM fogs are switched on, the hellas are also switched on.

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Off-topic: Which is better horn for scorpio other than stock ones? I will retain the stock but was thinking of fitting Red Grill or trumpet horn with switch for highways. Both are 118db.
The red grills are good enough, if you can source the Supertone High Tone black grill one's nothing better than that. I have the black one's installed in my scorp.

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Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a pair of Hella 500FF aux lights for my Waggie. Any suggestions/advice on how to mount them? I was planning of fitting them onto the front bumpers directly.
Is that advisable? Will there be any vibrations while running/idle?
The bumper is made of a not so rigid material, hence the question.
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Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a pair of Hella 500FF aux lights for my Waggie. Any suggestions/advice on how to mount them? I was planning of fitting them onto the front bumpers directly.
Is that advisable? Will there be any vibrations while running/idle?
The bumper is made of a not so rigid material, hence the question.
Well, you should opt for a rigid bull-bar fixture, or a custom designed, rigid clamp fixtures. 500 FFs may vibrate when fixed to the standard non-metal bumpers.
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Checked out Hella 700FF at Reliance Autozone at KH Road and Yediyur. Both of them have them but they have removed packing. I did not like the way it was kept without proper packing.
The box I got from Reliance did not have the relay or the wiring instructions booklet. So guys, watch out !
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Hey guys, I'm planning to buy a pair of Hella 500FF aux lights for my Waggie. Any suggestions/advice on how to mount them? I was planning of fitting them onto the front bumpers directly.
Is that advisable? Will there be any vibrations while running/idle?
The bumper is made of a not so rigid material, hence the question.


Check out my Garage & see the Hellas mounted on steel brackets. Rock steady lighting.

Hope that helps - ofcourse the bumper will need to be drilled / cut for the brackets to come thru..



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On 2nd Oct 2011, I Got Hella 700FF from Pune at Rs.5000/-. Installation postponed to next week due to festive season. Planning to post Pictures of Installation and Beam Patterns after that.
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I stay in Whitefield area. But if someone providing me this solution, I am ready to come to any part of Bangalore. At present, I am out of India and would be back by 14th of October. If you can hold for some time, we will visit together to Sai Colorium in JP Nagar.
Hi Anujmishra. I can suggest you a place where this guy does a neat job of the getting the rigid clamps for the hella to be mounted.

Do drop me a pm, I will help you out with the location where this guy does the job. If need be and time permits I can accompany you for this.
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