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Old 5th January 2013, 17:42   #6781
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Also need your expert advice on my issue with Hella's Rallye 500 Black Magic.
Got them installed and working like a charm. But stopped after a few months. MASS says the wire is getting shorted out and is not able to handle the load. I ain't no electrical expert so could you guys advice?

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I wouldnt recommend 130w bulbs since it generates too much heat for the stock headlights to handle. 100w is more than enough to burn/darken the reflectors so 130w would be a risk. You will need better gauge wires to handle the load as I dont think the stock wires would handle that much heat in the long run. Try to exchange this with a 100w bulbs. That's what I recommend.

BTW, relays, proper wiring and ceramic holders are needed for 100w also.

If you aint satisfied with 100w bulbs, how about auxiliary lights? Not many people prefer that but that's other option that's open for you.
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Old 5th January 2013, 18:33   #6782
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Apologies for not giving full information. I already have ceramic holders and relays to handle the load from the high power lights.

And naveen i already have the hella rallye 500 black magic as auxiliary lights. just that they are not working anymore :(

any tips on where i can get a better relay/thicker gauge wires for them? i have installed them with whatever wires came along with the original kit itself.
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Maybe OT but you can get Osram nighbreaker plus on autotrends.in for Rs 799/-
Add Rs 60 for cash-on-delivery.
Some offer going on. Ordered one for myself.
How reliable is this autotrends.in ? I am surprised at how they can offer at 799 ? The website claims that it is Made in Germany but what guarantee ?
Do let me know its performance once you get the shipment .
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Old 6th January 2013, 08:20   #6784
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any tips on where i can get a better relay/thicker gauge wires for them? i have installed them with whatever wires came along with the original kit itself.
Oh didnt know that. Better relays and thicker gauge wires can be bought from any good auto electrical or accessories shop.
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Hi Guys,

Can anyone please recommend a headlight upgrade kit for my Innova VX? I have tried something already but its not been to my liking. So if you have a tried and tested kit that works please suggest.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 7th January 2013, 10:03   #6786
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any tips on where i can get a better relay/thicker gauge wires for them? i have installed them with whatever wires came along with the original kit itself.
You will have to create a custom harness if you want better wires and relays. I had seen a relay by PMP designed to handle 30amps of current standard. The ones you get in kits have a max capacity of 30A. So running a pair of 130/100 through these relays means they are handling around 25 amps of current, which is around 80% of their operating capacity. The PMP relay I saw was as big as a motorcycle battery, with a sealed metal enclosure. It was installed by my neighbour in his qualis. Also, creating a custom harness means you have to get a professional grade work done. Local electricians use lots and lots of tape to tie up contacts or wires. However, one must use lugs, crimps and solder to ensure that the joints don't come loose over a period of time. However, with a readymade kit, these problems dont exist. Best option is to ask the shop to show all brands of wiring kits and then compare what wires they have used and of what thickness they are. Then you can choose the best of the lot.
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@audioholic: small correction. am not trying to put the 130w into my hella black magics. the 130w is for my main headlights.

The hella black magics have the stock 55w bulbs only.
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So you want the wiring for the black magic kit? I think the ones provided with the wiring kits are good enough for 55w X 2 bulbs. Just make sure you get the wiring right.
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So you want the wiring for the black magic kit?
He wants Relay kit for Main Headlights which can handle the load of 130W Bulbs.


I came across the following Bulbs on Shopclues.com--
1) Philips X-treme-vision-car-headlight-bulbs-h4-60-55w
It has following Description (as mentioned on Shopclues website)
100% More Light On the Road.
Ideal for all purpose driving.
Color Temp-3000K
Easy installation, plug and play.
No wiring or relay needed, just plug and play.
Longer beam than rally or standard vision bulbs from Philips.
Same power consumption as standard halogen bulbs.
Directly interchangable with originally equipped products. Extreme vision has now replaced the extreme power that had 80% more light on the road.
U-V Blocking quartz glass.
Pair of bulbs(h4) 60/55W.
Lead free with no hazardious material used.
100% Original Product From Philips.

2)Osram-night-break-plus-h4-bulbs-twin-pack
It has following Description (As mentioned on Shopclues website)
High quality temperature resistant plastic shell.
The angle of the day light can be adjusted easily.
Low power consumption and longer life.
Set of 2 pc with 8 LED in each.
Shock and vibration resistant.
12V Dc, Working current 60mA X 2.
Super Bright White Light.
All Brackets and accessories included.

There is nothing mentioned about the Colour Temp of the above bulb. Also the Wattage of bulb is not mentioned in the Description for the above bulb.

A) Is it worth going for the First Bulb Philips Make mentioned above considering Colour Temp.3000K and 60/55W Stock Bulb identical Rating?
B) What is Colour Temp. of Stock Bulbs (which come with the vehicle)?
Currently I use Mico-Bosch 60/55W bulbs for our Xylo E8 ABS. The box does not mention the Colour Temp. of the bulb.
C) One of Bulb filament goes at regular interval. What may be the cause behind this (The Bulbs are H4 60/55W Halogen bought from Mico-Bosch Shop)?
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I came across the following Bulbs on Shopclues.com--
1) Philips X-treme-vision-car-headlight-bulbs-h4-60-55w

2)Osram-night-break-plus-h4-bulbs-twin-pack
It has following Description (As mentioned on Shopclues website)
High quality temperature resistant plastic shell.


C) One of Bulb filament goes at regular interval. What may be the cause behind this (The Bulbs are H4 60/55W Halogen bought from Mico-Bosch Shop)?
Both bulbs are nearly identical. They are 60/55W and street legal. They essentially run a different gas mixture allowing higher filament temperatures. I bought a pair of NB+ for my Brio. The light is definitely much brighter, and has a slightly colder temperature. Why I chose NB+ as against XV is that the former are Made in Germany while the latter are mostly Chinese manufactured. Also, by the looks of it NB+ last longer than XV. The 100%+ claim is a bit extreme.

One very common cause of repeated bulb failures is a loose wire. Please check the wires. To illustrate the point, the most common time of failure of any incandescent bulb is when being switched on!
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On the Philips India website there are three part nos for the XV

http://www.lighting.philips.co.in/v2...more%20light#0
(Click on the "Product Listings" Tab.

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12342VXSM H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
12342VXS2 H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
12342VXB1 H4 12342 XV 12V 60/55W P43t-38
Which one is the correct part number for the Innova?
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So you want the wiring for the black magic kit? I think the ones provided with the wiring kits are good enough for 55w X 2 bulbs. Just make sure you get the wiring right.
Yes!

Shall get a new kit then and get it wired from a good place. Hope to get it right this time around.

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone and sorry if i kept confusing people
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2)Osram-night-break-plus-h4-bulbs-twin-pack
It has following Description (As mentioned on Shopclues website)
High quality temperature resistant plastic shell.
The angle of the day light can be adjusted easily.
Low power consumption and longer life.
Set of 2 pc with 8 LED in each.
Shock and vibration resistant.
12V Dc, Working current 60mA X 2.
Super Bright White Light.
All Brackets and accessories included.

There is nothing mentioned about the Colour Temp of the above bulb. Also the Wattage of bulb is not mentioned in the Description for the above bulb.
What is--
1) The angle of the day light can be adjusted easily. The angle of all bulbs can be adjusted easily, isn't it?
2) Set of 2 pc with 8 LED in each. Does this bulb come with 8 LEDs in each as against one Halogen Bulb?
3) Super Bright White Light. The Colour Temp. must be more than 4300K
4) What is the Wattage and Colour Temp. of the above Bulb?

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A) Is it worth going for the First Bulb Philips Make mentioned above considering Colour Temp.3000K and 60/55W Stock Bulb identical Rating?
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Both bulbs are nearly identical. They are 60/55W and street legal. They essentially run a different gas mixture allowing higher filament temperatures. I bought a pair of NB+ for my Brio. The light is definitely much brighter, and has a slightly colder temperature. Why I chose NB+ as against XV is that the former are Made in Germany while the latter are mostly Chinese manufactured. Also, by the looks of it NB+ last longer than XV. The 100%+ claim is a bit extreme.
I thought 3000K of Philips XV would give nice illumination even in the blinding oncoming traffic since it will have yellow throw. Am I wrong here?
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B) What is Colour Temp. of Stock Bulbs (which come with the vehicle)?
Currently I use Mico-Bosch 60/55W bulbs for our Xylo E8 ABS. The box does not mention the Colour Temp. of the bulb.
What about this query?
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Old 8th January 2013, 10:37   #6794
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I thought 3000K of Philips XV would give nice illumination even in the blinding oncoming traffic since it will have yellow throw. Am I wrong here?
It is not yellow, but a bit colder than the normal halogens.
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Old 9th January 2013, 12:29   #6795
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Hi,

I'm looking to get projectors done for my 2005 Honda City Gxi . I want to know if there're any recommended brands I should ask for and also if anyone can recommend a good installer in Chennai. I'm a noob when it comes to auto lighting so kindly bear with me .

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