Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 24th April 2014, 12:34   #8101
Senior - BHPian
 
silversteed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PGT//BLR//STR
Posts: 1,915
Thanked: 1,294 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by saurabh2711 View Post
My question is "Is it OK to plug the GROUND/EARTH wire of left headlight directly to the Negative of the Battery"? Tried this for a moment & was happy with the output, but only sceptic to do it permanently.
Try sanding the flat ring terminals to remove any oxide layer, and then fix it on the bolt. It's a good idea to check for and remove traces of rust on the bolt and also on the contacts inside the ceramic holder. All this, is to ensure that the ground wire gets makes very good contact with the body. To answer your specific question, YES, you can.
silversteed is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th April 2014, 21:25   #8102
BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 436
Thanked: 98 Times
Default

I'm planning to get hid in my ertiga. I'm still confused between 4300k and 6000k, as the ertiga has h4 which means both high beam and low beam will have same configuration. Considering the fact that during rains 6000k will have lower visibility than 4300k I'm thinking of 4300k but all people whom I've spoken suggest me to go for 6000k. Experts can help me with this. Another confusion is to find out which brand to go for. I've got quote of 5.5k for one make with canbus and bi-xenon and 1 year warranty but fittings needs to be done at my end. Another option is with a reputed shop costing 7500 with 1 year warranty but doesn't have bi-xenon or canbus technology. Philips authorised stockist is quoting around 9k but I need to get fitting from outside. The earlier 1st one looks good to me but I need to find a good installer to get it done ,experts can help me also if someone can help me with a good installer ? There are many Chinese options available from as low as 2k but I'm not sure on their quality.
saurabhkum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th April 2014, 22:21   #8103
Senior - BHPian
 
Schoudhury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Blore/Dallas-TX
Posts: 1,068
Thanked: 467 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saurabhkum View Post
I'm planning to get hid in my ertiga. I'm still confused between 4300k and 6000k, as the ertiga has h4 which means both high beam and low beam will have same configuration. .
Saurabh
Please do make sure to include projectors also along HID otherwise it won't be of much help .
Stock reflector won't do justice to Hid .
Schoudhury is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 08:18   #8104
Senior - BHPian
 
silversteed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PGT//BLR//STR
Posts: 1,915
Thanked: 1,294 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by saurabhkum View Post
I'm planning to get hid in my ertiga. I'm still confused between 4300k and 6000k, as the ertiga has h4 which means both high beam and low beam will have same configuration. Considering the fact that during rains 6000k will have lower visibility than 4300k I'm thinking of 4300k but all people whom I've spoken suggest me to go for 6000k. Experts can help me with this. Another confusion is to find out which brand to go for. I've got quote of 5.5k for one make with canbus and bi-xenon and 1 year warranty but fittings needs to be done at my end. Another option is with a reputed shop costing 7500 with 1 year warranty but doesn't have bi-xenon or canbus technology. Philips authorised stockist is quoting around 9k but I need to get fitting from outside. The earlier 1st one looks good to me but I need to find a good installer to get it done ,experts can help me also if someone can help me with a good installer ? There are many Chinese options available from as low as 2k but I'm not sure on their quality.
You are better off with 4300k, if your priority is illumination. Anything above 5000k would look bling-bling but offer poor visibility and more glare in rains, mist, fog etc.
Using HIDs in your headlamps without projectors is a bad idea. The HL reflectors are designed for incandescent bulbs, and not for HIDs. The glare and bad focussing will overshadow the increased lumens put out by the lamps, which are simply put, unusable.

Be warned that all HIDs take a while to reach their maximum light output, which can be around 15 seconds. So you will be deprived of the ability to 'flash' the headlamps like you would do with a halogen. Another risk is regarding the sealing of the HL.

You may want to do a research before putting your money on anything, search for Bi-Xenon projector retrofits

Last edited by silversteed : 25th April 2014 at 08:25.
silversteed is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 10:11   #8105
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sgiitk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kanpur
Posts: 6,637
Thanked: 3,051 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (4)
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

@silversteed; Apparently Morimoto permit insertion of the HiD bulbs at any time. They are fixed by bolting, and have enough of an opening. I must add that 90%+ of failures are the ballast and not the bulb. I hear avstuning sell these in India.
sgiitk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 10:47   #8106
Senior - BHPian
 
silversteed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PGT//BLR//STR
Posts: 1,915
Thanked: 1,294 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgiitk View Post
@silversteed; Apparently Morimoto permit insertion of the HiD bulbs at any time. They are fixed by bolting, and have enough of an opening. I must add that 90%+ of failures are the ballast and not the bulb. I hear avstuning sell these in India.
You are right, Professor. What I meant was, the re-sealing of the headlamp assembly after fixing the projector and shroud may not be proper, and hence moisture and dirt will find their way inside.

AVStuning is the official distributor for all TRS products. I'm sure you would've seen their pages in other fora as well as eBay.
silversteed is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 11:37   #8107
Senior - BHPian
 
naveen.raju's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Cochin
Posts: 3,544
Thanked: 2,536 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by silversteed View Post
You are right, Professor. What I meant was, the re-sealing of the headlamp assembly after fixing the projector and shroud may not be proper, and hence moisture and dirt will find their way inside.
Formation of moisture can happen in any headlights when you remove the bulbs for installation or replacement. My aftermarket swift headlights had this problem since moisture got trapped when we opened to install HIDs. It will be there for couple of days. The thing I did was opened the rubber bush slightly and switched on the headlights for couple of mins. The installer advised me to drive for few kms but I dont recommend that as dirt might find it's way in.
naveen.raju is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 12:30   #8108
BHPian
 
Prodigy07's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Chennai
Posts: 249
Thanked: 121 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by silversteed View Post
or fix H11 55W bulbs in the fogs (please add relays or else you risk damaging the wiring),
Silversteed, Is a relay with H11 55W fog bulbs mandatory? I have similar bulbs in my Ritz without relay. The fog lamp switch tends to become hot within 15-20 mins of driving!
Prodigy07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 12:38   #8109
Senior - BHPian
 
silversteed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PGT//BLR//STR
Posts: 1,915
Thanked: 1,294 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigy07 View Post
Silversteed, Is a relay with H11 55W fog bulbs mandatory? I have similar bulbs in my Ritz without relay. The fog lamp switch tends to become hot within 15-20 mins of driving!
Let's do some math

12V, 35W, 2 bulbs -> Total current = ~6Amp
12V, 55W, 2 bulbs -> Total current = ~10Amp

You are pushing over 50% extra current than normal, through the switch. Not a good idea.
silversteed is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 15:08   #8110
BHPian
 
Sommos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Bhilai, CG.
Posts: 985
Thanked: 671 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by saurabhkum View Post
I'm planning to get hid in my ertiga. I'm still confused between 4300k and 6000k, as the ertiga has h4 which means both high beam and low beam will have same configuration. Considering the fact that during rains 6000k will have lower visibility than 4300k I'm thinking of 4300k but all people whom I've spoken suggest me to go for 6000k. Experts can help me with this. Another confusion is to find out which brand to go for. I've got quote of 5.5k for one make with canbus and bi-xenon and 1 year warranty but fittings needs to be done at my end. Another option is with a reputed shop costing 7500 with 1 year warranty but doesn't have bi-xenon or canbus technology. Philips authorised stockist is quoting around 9k but I need to get fitting from outside. The earlier 1st one looks good to me but I need to find a good installer to get it done ,experts can help me also if someone can help me with a good installer ? There are many Chinese options available from as low as 2k but I'm not sure on their quality.
Since you're from Mumbai you may refer to this thread : Projectors-hid-ice-etc-sainath-auto-ultimate-khar-mumbai (Projectors, HID, ICE etc. - Sainath Auto Ultimate (Khar, Mumbai))
Sommos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th April 2014, 16:22   #8111
Senior - BHPian
 
audioholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: BengaLuru
Posts: 2,588
Thanked: 2,936 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigy07 View Post
Silversteed, Is a relay with H11 55W fog bulbs mandatory? I have similar bulbs in my Ritz without relay. The fog lamp switch tends to become hot within 15-20 mins of driving!
The fog lamp already has a relay installed, so you neednt worry. The fog light tends to get hot because there are two bulbs inside, one for the switch illumination and another for indicating that the lamps are on.
audioholic is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 26th April 2014, 08:42   #8112
Senior - BHPian
 
anachronix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Madras
Posts: 3,199
Thanked: 1,147 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Have bought these LEDs from DX. Are these direct replacement bulbs or I need to add resistor in the circuit? I am also worried a little about the power rating at 7.5W for these bulbs.

http://dx.com/p/266867

http://dx.com/p/286880
anachronix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th April 2014, 10:09   #8113
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sgiitk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kanpur
Posts: 6,637
Thanked: 3,051 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (4)
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodigy07 View Post
Silversteed, Is a relay with H11 55W fog bulbs mandatory? I have similar bulbs in my Ritz without relay. The fog lamp switch tends to become hot within 15-20 mins of driving!
My Brio has 55W H11 Fogs, no relay in sight. I have replaced the 35W H11 fogs in my Civic with 55W HIDs, and have not used any relay or loom. No problems so far.
sgiitk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th April 2014, 11:26   #8114
Senior - BHPian
 
mayankk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 3,901
Thanked: 2,923 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by anachronix View Post
Have bought these LEDs from DX. Are these direct replacement bulbs or I need to add resistor in the circuit? I am also worried a little about the power rating at 7.5W for these bulbs.

http://dx.com/p/266867

http://dx.com/p/286880
You don't need a resistor. I ran similar ones in my parking lights, and slightly smaller ones for indicators with pnp only, nothing extra.
mayankk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th April 2014, 00:27   #8115
BHPian
 
hrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 837
Thanked: 255 Times
Default Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

I bought the Philips Xtreme Vision H4 bulbs for my Rapid today. Got it from AK Traders at 950/- for a pair. He initially said he didn't have stock and it will come on Tuesday/ Wednesday. However, I made a helpless face and he made a call to someone and asked to confirm if stock is available. I waited for 5 minutes and got the bulb.

Have replaced it in the car. Initial result seems good. The bulbs are definitely brighter than stock. Need to test it under driving conditions and report. I have had experience with Philips Extreme power in my earlier Honda citys and was happy with the output, save for the shorter life with these high powered bulbs.
hrman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Mobile Phone Thread - Queries, decisions, discussions all here ravi_28_8 Gadgets, Computers & Software 11182 3rd December 2016 17:34
Automobile Insurance Queries? Ask me rjvora_2000 Indian Car Loans & Insurance 3713 2nd December 2016 19:09
The Royal Enfield Mechanics Thread: All mechanics requirements and queries here sreerajunnithan Motorbikes 416 8th October 2016 21:04
Formal dressing and tailoring for all occassions (EDIT: Put all your queries here) manaa45 Shifting gears 71 17th February 2016 10:05
The Guitar Thread - Post all Queries,tabs and info here TributE Shifting gears 77 15th June 2015 13:30


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 06:29.

Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks