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Old 13th November 2014, 16:42   #8566
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Thats the headlight. I hope it shows now.
You can go in for 4300k HIDs (yellow light with a tinge of white). AFAIK, fabia use halogens so there wont be any ballast for the projectors. You will have to buy the entire HID kit (HID bulbs, ballast and wiring). Do check if ballast is present. Also check the bulbs used. I think it will be H4 bulbs.
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Thats the headlight. I hope it shows now.
Looks like a bixenon projector is fit.
There is no other bulb for high/ low beam as I can see in the photo.
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Looks like a bixenon projector is fit.
There is no other bulb for high/ low beam as I can see in the photo.
Yes its the same bulb.

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You can go in for 4300k HIDs (yellow light with a tinge of white). AFAIK, fabia use halogens so there wont be any ballast for the projectors. You will have to buy the entire HID kit (HID bulbs, ballast and wiring). Do check if ballast is present. Also check the bulbs used. I think it will be H4 bulbs.
There isnt any ballast. And the bulbs are H4.

So can i just go in for h4 white bulbs or will i need to ge the HID kit for the 4300k output.
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Yes its the same bulb.



There isnt any ballast. And the bulbs are H4.

So can i just go in for h4 white bulbs or will i need to ge the HID kit for the 4300k output.
For white light output, you will need HIDs. Even though, there are halogen bulbs, the white output wont be satisfying. Projectors works well with HIDs. And since you already have projectors, its better to go for HIDs but it will be expensive. Say around 7k+ and I think Philips is around 10k.
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HI,
Has anyone installed fast bright HID kits?
How is their performance.

how about OSRAM xenarc HID KITS?
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Random question, and I don't know whether it's been answered already (couldn't find it). Cars like BMWs and VWs have these interesting 'light bar' tail lamps, which look to me like LEDs with some sort of diffuser lens. These aren't the better-known multi-LED strands you see (in, say the Alfa Giulietta). Could anyone tell me what these lights are called and how they work? Just curious.
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The same tech that works for halo rings works for these tail lamps too. If you take a solid glass or acrylic rod/bar and pass light from either ends, you have light passing through it but the light wont be visible like the ones you see in tail lamps. To make this light visible through out the rod/bar in a uniform way, make fine groves behind the bar and you get the effect of the whole rod lit up. The groves cause light scattering and that's how it works. Make it a ring and you have halo rings, make the rod in various shapes and sizes and you have those stunning tail lamps and parking lights, ambient lighting inside cabin, etc. in various colors depending on the LEDs you choose to light it up. See the pics below to have an idea of how simple it is.
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For further illustration of ajaypjayaraj's point, I just clicked some pics of my i20's ORVM indicators. In these pics, you can clearly see those groves which spread light and in the next images (the ones in which the indicator has lit up)
you can see the source of the light ; the LED. On looking closely, you may notice that the ends of the indicator are relatively brighter than the other areas(the middle ones) as ajaypjayaraj mentioned earlier. So its just the end point which have the source LEDs and its those small groves which spread the light and ultimately end up in making the light appear so beautiful as a whole.
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Take a longish piece of acrylic, put an led at one end, or behind in a row, and scuff the outer surface where you want the light to be seen with the coarsest sandpaper you can get. The rougher, the better. It should basically be as close to opaque as you can get.
Good thing with acrylic is, you can heat it and bend it to desired shape.
I did this for my fiesta. It's quite satisfying, but you'll need spare headlights if it's your first time.
Try making some home lighting to start with.
Acrylic you can source cheaply from photo frames.
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Old 16th November 2014, 12:57   #8573
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Hi,

Any recommendations for headlamps upgrade on the i20 elite, don't want to void the warranty, so would prefer changing with a better brand for the same wattage, which might give better throw, any recommendations?

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Any recommendations for headlamps upgrade on the i20 elite, don't want to void the warranty, so would prefer changing with a better brand for the same wattage, which might give better throw, any recommendations?
First option - NB+ of the same wattage. About 30% better light with no warranty side effects.
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Hi Gurus,

Planning to upgrade stock Head lights of Duster AWD as it's very poor.
Did some research and heard from couple of shops from JC Road, Bangalore that P8 conversion kit is good (55W) can some one throw some light on this kit. The shop is quoting me 9K and i want to be sure if it is the good one. and based on your advices, will fit that in high beam and go for NBU of the same rating for Low beams.
Alternatively i have a budget of 15 to 20K allotted for Head lights and need your suggestions on what best can be achieved with this money
I do a good amount of night driving in Highways as well as city (about 60% in city and 40% on highways)
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Hi Gurus,

Planning to upgrade stock Head lights of Duster AWD as it's very poor.
Did some research and heard from couple of shops from JC Road, Bangalore that P8 conversion kit is good (55W) can some one throw some light on this kit. The shop is quoting me 9K and i want to be sure if it is the good one. and based on your advices,
Alternatively i have a budget of 15 to 20K allotted for Head lights and need your suggestions on what best can be achieved with this money
I do a good amount of night driving in Highways as well as city (about 60% in city and 40% on highways)
Never used P8 Hid kits, but heard them to be good.
For that price (extend a bit more), it would be great if you get a Philips Hid kit with 85122+ bulbs.

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will fit that in high beam and go for NBU of the same rating for Low beams.
Not a good decision.
If you want Hid's, put in Lowbeams
Halogen in Highbeams.
Hid's take at least 4-5 seconds to warm up and almost 8-10 seconds to produce full bright light
If you put Hid's in Highbeam, you MIGHT loose the PASS (FLASH) facility

I removed FX-R projectors (before to it had used Morimoto Projectors) & hid kit to upgrade to Lightforce 240 Blitz.
I use these LF only on long highway drives & remove (just 2+2) bolts when not in use
My civic is totally with Halogen lights now
This is how my car looks
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Never used P8 Hid kits, but heard them to be good.
For that price (extend a bit more), it would be great if you get a Philips Hid kit with 85122+ bulbs.
Not a good decision.
If you want Hid's, put in Lowbeams
Halogen in Highbeams.
My civic is totally with Halogen lights now
This is how my car looks
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Philips are 35W; P8 is 55W, that's why was leaning towards P8.
Will fit the HID's on lowbeams as suggested.
Civic looks gorgeous.....those rally lights are amazing
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This is how my car looks
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Don't you feel these are a tad too big?
Or maybe its the perspective making them look so?
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I removed FX-R projectors (before to it had used Morimoto Projectors) & hid kit to upgrade to Lightforce 240 Blitz.
I use these LF only on long highway drives & remove (just 2+2) bolts when not in use
My civic is totally with Halogen lights now
This is how my car looks
Were you unhappy with projectors? How do the lightforce compare to FX-R's ?
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Philips are 35W; P8 is 55W, that's why was leaning towards P8.
Will fit the HID's on lowbeams as suggested.
Civic looks gorgeous.....those rally lights are amazing
Thanks..
Don't go for 55W on reflectors, heat emitted from the 55W bulbs will be too much for the reflectors to handle (Though hid's run cooler than Halogens).
Stick to 35W hid's they will suffice the need.
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Hi,
Don't you feel these are a tad too big?
Or maybe its the perspective making them look so?
Indeed they are huge (around 9" ), could have brought LF 170 Striker(they are small), but wanted more light on the road so brought LF 240 Blitz.
I do remove them when not in use, so car is back to stock in 5 mins (hardly 4 nut&bolts)
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Were you unhappy with projectors? How do the lightforce compare to FX-R's ?
LF & FX-r's are different entities.
As a projector, FX-r are way too good , low beam spread is wide & good & higbeam is OK too.
I had moisture issue in one(left HL) of the headlights, twice I changed FX-r's due to this (burnt reflectors), It's a pain to retrofit & align the Projectors twice(FX-r are not direct fit projectors, one needs to modify the reflectors). So changed the complete headlight assembly(both left & right) to stock Civic headlights

LF, it's like a complete HighBeam with more than half km light range.
The pencil beam from LF 240 Blitz is fantastic.
Talking purely in terms of foreground light (around 20 mtrs from headlight) LF beam spread is not as wide FX-r, though there is an option in LF to adjust the beam pattern from Pencil to spread.

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