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Old 21st October 2008, 12:27   #451
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from where can i get stebel nautilius in delhi?? price?
help me out with some loud windtone horns. currently using bosch mico windtone horn.
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Old 21st October 2008, 13:28   #452
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I wanted to change my Alto's horn to something like roots windtone or Bosch.

I believe it is not as easy in the Alto as it may need some change in wiring/relay. I do not want the OE horn just the new roots windtone type horn. Do I still need to change some wiring/relay or straightaway just disconnect old and connect new one in.
Hi,

Yes, you can definitely upgrade your Alto's horn. I have changed mine from the stock horn to a set of Roots Windtone horns. You will have to add on an extra relay and wiring, but nothing to worry about, you won't have to cut any existing horn wiring.

Just plug the new connectors into the old horn connectors, hook a relay to support the extra power requirement and you are set to go. The Roots Windtone horns perform excellently well and are a great upgrade for an Alto.

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Old 21st October 2008, 17:56   #453
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Isnt there any restriction of RTO on fixing huge Horns?
I learnt that there is some restriction of horns.
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Old 21st October 2008, 19:46   #454
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hey i got stebel magnum windtone horns installed today in my verna..
they are definiltely loud and have a strong kind of sound.
got a pair for 600 bucks.
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Friends, my 2002 Maruti 800 DX's horn finally gave up the ghost.
It was a weak single horn anyway.

The horn is an inseparable part of the personality of a car.
A weak horn affects your driving and I have to make my way from Chembur to SEEPZ once a week.

So I wanted a high-pitched tuned pair of horns, like I have Robert Bosch horns purchased in Singapore on my red, white and blue Padmini S1.

The Hella twin Supertone Horn pair looked good.
Hella part no. 3AG 003 399-801.

The high tone horn has a 500 Hz sound (a B on the musical scale) and
the low tone horn has a 300 Hz sound (a D on the musical scale)

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Love the sound!

The boxed pack came with a 30-Ampere relay.

Here's a pic of the box. Cost me Rs. 1200 [ MRP is Rs. 1350 ]

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The horns draw 72 Watts and produce 118 deciBels of sound 6 feet in front of the car. So they need a relay and heavier wires directly from the battery's +ve terminal. If they're starved of current by light wires, the sound would be poor.

Each horn is 12.4 cm in diameter and 6 cm thick.

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The OEM horn was tucked away behind the plastic grille on the right of the car. Being an ultrasmall car, there is so little room for installing anything in the engine bay of a Maruti 800.

Installing two horns of this size in the cramped engine bay was a challenge. The stock horn is hidden behind the radiator grille.

Finally I chose to mount the horns on the firewall.
Purchased three Premier Padmini number plate brackets, bolted them together and hammered them into shape to hold the two horns and the relay away from the Maruti's firewall. Rs. 50 worth of hardware.

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Please excuse my dirty fingers.
Here's a pic of my DIY installation.

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Ram, when you press the horn is it like really loud in the cabin as well? I think that will be a problem in the firewall. Keeping it near the grill or even behind the bumper might not be so loud inside the cabin.

I have not heard these shrill horns in any car in the US. All the cars there have the skoda type horn. I generally hear the horn as their security system is hooked up to the horn.
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Ram, when you press the horn is it like really loud in the cabin as well? I think that will be a problem in the firewall. Keeping it near the grill or even behind the bumper might not be so loud inside the cabin.

I have not heard these shrill horns in any car in the US. All the cars there have the skoda type horn. I generally hear the horn as their security system is hooked up to the horn.

what are the LOUDEST skoda kind horns available in the market??
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Old 2nd November 2008, 22:01   #458
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roots windtone super. Price Rs.350. It's a dual horn which sounds like the Skoda/Optra horn but is much more louder.

Root Industries Limited - Products - WINDTONE
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Some thing louder than those,Like AMBY TAXI in kolkata have
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Old 2nd November 2008, 22:21   #460
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Ram, when you press the horn is it like really loud in the cabin as well? I think that will be a problem in the firewall. Keeping it near the grill or even behind the bumper might not be so loud inside the cabin.
Actually it is not loud inside the cabin at all. Just muted.
The horns are mounted on brackets on the firewall which is reasonably solid.
Then additionally, maybe it's because the sound produced by the horns is highly directional. Maximum sound power is projected forwards.

I invariably drive with the windows up and the airconditioner going.
On the rare occasion when the windows are down, sound enters the cabin from outside the car.

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I have not heard these shrill horns in any car in the US. All the cars there have the skoda type horn. I generally hear the horn as their security system is hooked up to the horn.
Yes. IMHO US horns are wimpy and low pitched. The horn on a Corvette or Mustang is an apology of a horn, if you ask me.

But European horns are always shrill (high pitched). Look at Mercedes, BMW, Porsche and Volvo. Horns by Robert Bosch, Hella, Fiamm, ...

Somehow the Skoda from Czechoslovakia is an exception. It has American type twin-hooters rather than European type horns.
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The Hella twin Supertone Horn pair looked good.
Love the sound!
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Those are the famed Hella 'Red Grill' !
Wonderful purchase Sir,and you will be happy that I paid almost similar amout for them too in my new car.It was less when I had it installed in my M800 way back in 2003.

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Being an ultra small car, there is so little room for installing anything in the engine bay of a Maruti 800.
Installing two horns of this size in the cramped engine bay was a challenge. The stock horn is hidden behind the radiator grille.
I had them installed in the engine bay in two different places.One was on the firewall hanging by a sturdy L-shaped bracket just beside the engine specification tag from the company.The other was fitted just beside the radiator grill on the right side.Relay is a must with high gauge wire.

These Red Grills are the loudest and baddest pair of electromagnetic horns that are available.One wants to go even louder,he has to go for electropneumatic horns from Stebel.
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I never thought the humble horn had so much science and culture behind it! But, now I know.
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Old 4th November 2008, 01:32   #463
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Hey Ram, I'd really like to get a pair of the Hella horns you have installed in your M800...I assume you pass Hiranandani Gardens Powai on your way to and fro SEEPZ, any chance I could have a listen [My ear-drum blown off] to your new horn(s)

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I have Hella Red Grill's on my Bike and Car
they have a Distinct Loud sound-Love it.


But they are very allergic to water please take care of them in rains and while washing vehicles.
the good point is they are repairable but on the other hand they go bad often

Cheap and Loud horns-Roots Windtone-400bucks
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But they are very allergic to water please take care of them in rains and while washing vehicles.
Thanks for the information akshay4587.
But well within the engine bay, on the firewall, mine are reasonably well protected from rain and roadspray.



That being said, I have noticed that they are also mounted in front of the radiator behind the grille, as on this Toyota FJ cruiser.

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And on the outside just behind the bumper grille as on this car.

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Here road spray in rainy weather is a definite given.

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As far as the water-proof nature is concerned, one hears that there are cottage-industry manufactured spurious "Hella" horns being sold cheap, without the warranty and sometimes without the proper box. This happens when one allows a local garage to source the horns. Then one gets to see neither box nor warranty and early failure is a strong probability.
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