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Old 22nd December 2008, 23:50   #496
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Default Looking for help in procuring a Nautilus

I've been hunting for a Stebel Nautilus for my Civic for a while now. It appears the thing has disappeared off the shelves here in Kerala. Therefore, I'm looking for help from someone who can buy one and send it to me by courier.

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Old 23rd December 2008, 00:10   #497
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The relay is a must, as you know that the these Windtone horns will have the motors inside which are inductive in nature, they generate a kind of back emf whenever the current passes through these horns switches when activated. The relay is another switch which can carry much higher current than the switch which is placed inside your horn pad on the steering wheel. These switches can't carry the current and you may ultimately damage the switch inside the steering wheel with the sparks generated out of it. So as soon as possible try to put a relay in the path b/w battery and horn.

@vrrraju chose to disagree here , the Windtone horns do not have motors in them , in stead they have a diaphgram , inductive coils and a make and break circuitry. You will find motors in Air horns . Wind tone is not an Air horn ...But the the inductive coils still generate the back emf.
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Wink what about the Blow Horn (Ponga!!)?!

I may sound funny, but can't resist from asking. What about the blow horn alias Ponga?! (must have seen in the city buses / autorikshwas). I find them Pretty good for the following reasons:

1) It's sound resembles to the City buses (which requires lot of space). Thus the other road-users will definitely give way.
2) It doesn't pollute due to lesser decibels.
3) NO wiring & battery required. No more hassles. Energy saving too!!

Your views please

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Old 23rd December 2008, 14:14   #499
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One can't drive with the AC on with those fitted. Too much of a hassle to wind the window down, blow it, wind it up, ad infinitum.
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I have just purchased a new bosch symphony windtone horn as my roots was sounding like it had a cold. Let me see how this is now.

Also in case of WagonR, the OE horn is a single unit so you need to add a relay and the output relay terminal should have 2 pairs of wires going to the dual horns.
Which sounds better and original, Roots W90 or Bosch symphony ? I wanted something which is NOT too loud/shrill/annoying but enough to get anyone out of my way.
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Old 31st December 2008, 00:14   #501
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Try the STEBEL TM80/2 Similar but louder skoda type of horn.
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Try the STEBEL TM80/2 Similar but louder skoda type of horn.
I am using the TM80/2 but find the sound too 'sweet/melodious' for the dratted B'lore autorickshaws!

Unsure why but could it be because I am using the supplied Stebel relay? Should I change to a Roots/PMP one? Or is it insufficient gauge wires used in the wiring?

Want the horn to be LOUDER! help someone.
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Which sounds better and original, Roots W90 or Bosch symphony ? I wanted something which is NOT too loud/shrill/annoying but enough to get anyone out of my way.
Roots is louder and according to me sounded better. The bosch does not sound as crisp as I thought it would.
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Default Best Place for Hella Horns

Hi All,

I recently brought Hella Supetone Horn Set for my Swift. It is going to be an DIY. I just wanted to know which is the best place for placing this horns. I will get the Pattis (To hold the horns) done from a local fabricator. Just wanted to know where I can place them.

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Hi All,

I recently brought Hella Supetone Horn Set for my Swift. It is going to be an DIY. I just wanted to know which is the best place for placing this horns. I will get the Pattis (To hold the horns) done from a local fabricator. Just wanted to know where I can place them.

/Raju
Inside the engine bay itself, but make sure that it not too close to any heat emitting source.
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I need some help with the horn wiring. The picture below is the typical way the horn and relay should be connected.

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This is the stock wiring right now in my wagonr. I am confused about the green and the yellow wire and how it should be connected. And what rating fuse should I install ? Any help would be appreciated.

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Any help with the above query ?

I bought a pair of Bosch Symphony horns, Lispart horn relay and 20A fuse.

This is the basic wiring diagram of the setup, but I am confused about the 2 wires connected to the stock horn, as there is only one wire coming from the relay to the stock horn. Where should the yellow and green wire connect ?

Power HORNS.!!!!-horn.jpg

The bosch horns have 2 terminals, how do I identify the postive and negative terminal ?

Power HORNS.!!!!-img_8502.jpg

This is the Lispart relay I was given.

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Guys please help me with the wiring.
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The bosch horns have 2 terminals, how do I identify the postive and negative terminal ?
If unlabled, the terminal nearest to the tone adjusting nut is ALWAYS the positive terminal. In the above photograph, the terminal on the right is positive and the one on the left is negative.

If you can please exchange the mechanical lispart relay with a electronic sealed bosch relay which would have terminal lables as shown in the wiring diagram posted by shakensoul above. However if you plan to use the Listpart relay itself, the H terminal would go to the new horn positive terminal, the B terminal would go to the battery through a inline hanging fuse (30 amps) and the S terminal would connect to the exsiting wire from the original OEM horn.

Please remember that the new wires used would be automotive wires only (I prefer finolex 14 or 21 series) to mantain safety standards.

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Adheesh Parelkar

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Thanks adheesh for clarifying. But I'm still confused as there are two wires connected to the stock horn right now(green with white stripe and yellow) and from the relay there is only one wire going to stock wiring.

Should I join the two wires connected to the stock horn ?

For wiring I am using Kalinga brand 1.5mm cables, hope thats good enough.
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Old 26th January 2009, 17:49   #510
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Finally my DIY horn installation got done to my satisfaction
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