Go Back   Team-BHP > Team-BHP > Team-BHP Advice > On modifying a car


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20th July 2009, 08:45   #1741
Distinguished - BHPian
 
jkdas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Thiruvananthapu
Posts: 9,565
Thanked: 1,211 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon View Post
Even currently the Power 1 brand for bikes does not even mention what viscosity it is! And yet they make a blanket claim that its recmmended for ALL modern bikes from Yamaha, TVS, HH, Honda, Bajaj, etc, etc. Why do they do this? Obviously so that they can sell that oil to ALL bike users. If they mentioned the truth, probably half the demand for that brand would die instantly.


Clever marketing!
How many out there go and read the specs and buy something ? If a well known and established brand recommends something people will believe in it and buy it. That's one reason you pay premium for a brand name. When was the last time you read the contents of Vicks Action 500 or Crocin before you popped one?
jkdas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 10:46   #1742
Team-BHP Support
 
tsk1979's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 22,507
Thanked: 14,758 Times
Default

Castrol india page keeps on harping about critical factors etc., but nowhere mentiones its fully synthetic. But dealers claim its synthetic.
However the castrol edge(not turbo diesel) I saw in shops had API-SM/CF i.e good for petrol engines, normal for diesel.
tsk1979 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 12:15   #1743
BHPian
 
Roy.S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 446
Thanked: 23 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gpa View Post
Usually your MASS will have an additive like 3M's gearbox oil additive which they will use if you ask for it. .....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raccoon View Post
...I would seriousy suggest you stay away from such additives. Oils and aftermarket additives just dont go together.
Unable to compute. Serious system error. Brain shutting down.
Roy.S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 12:41   #1744
gpa
Senior - BHPian
 
gpa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,724
Thanked: 203 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy.S View Post
Unable to compute. Serious system error. Brain shutting down.
Reboot please
gpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 15:26   #1745
Senior - BHPian
 
Raccoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Poona
Posts: 1,832
Thanked: 103 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkdas View Post
How many out there go and read the specs and buy something ? If a well known and established brand recommends something people will believe in it and buy it. That's one reason you pay premium for a brand name. When was the last time you read the contents of Vicks Action 500 or Crocin before you popped one?
Don't know about you, but you can always count on me to check the contents/ingredients. And yes, people believe and buy... but this is a community of auto enthusiasts... so a li'l more descretion is expected, don't you agree? And here the premium you are paying is simply for what is assumed. Not for what is.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy.S View Post
Unable to compute. Serious system error. Brain shutting down.
Hehe... Well, shut down, format, reinstall everything, and don't install oil additives.

Jokes aside, you could try changing the grade and/or brand of your gear oil, within the permissible limits. Generally a thicker oil will make if feel smoother.
Raccoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 17:52   #1746
BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kollam, Kerala
Posts: 368
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkdas View Post
How many out there go and read the specs and buy something ?
I for one used to check the grade of oil and tried to use the best one, from the early eighties. There were no forums like this to help at that time. But there were books like "AAA Encyclopaedia of the Car". (which is still with me.)
janitha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 21:29   #1747
BHPian
 
srikant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 488
Thanked: 9 Times
Default

Mobil or Castrol Edge Turbo diesel for fully synthetic engine oil for Swift DDiS?

How come Castrol Edge fully synthetic is just 200 per liter when Mobil sells fully synthetic for almost 1000 per liter?
srikant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 21:55   #1748
Senior - BHPian
 
R2D2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Punya Nagari
Posts: 1,360
Thanked: 401 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsk1979 View Post
Castrol india page keeps on harping about critical factors etc., but nowhere mentiones its fully synthetic. But dealers claim its synthetic.
However the castrol edge(not turbo diesel) I saw in shops had API-SM/CF i.e good for petrol engines, normal for diesel.
Castrol India seems to be very cagey about this oil. No specs, no literature. I had to go visit the Castrol UK site to get the info.

Quote:
Originally Posted by srikant View Post
Mobil or Castrol Edge Turbo diesel for fully synthetic engine oil for Swift DDiS?

How come Castrol Edge fully synthetic is just 200 per liter when Mobil sells fully synthetic for almost 1000 per liter?
Only Rs 200/litre?? Unbelievable. Good quality mineral multigrade costs that much. If it IS Rs 200 and Castrol Edge IS pure synth, then I will buy a can for my next oil change.

Regards,
R2D2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 22:12   #1749
Senior - BHPian
 
amit_mechengg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 2,305
Thanked: 927 Times
Default

i too had mentioned this earlier. castrol has the worst style of marketing and product display. when i was hunting for a 80w90 gear box oil all the dealers here in pune were eagerly handing the Castrol TQ oil.
what the heck there is no grade and specs on the can. its just written automatic transmission and power steering applications
amit_mechengg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2009, 23:57   #1750
Senior - BHPian
 
Raccoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Poona
Posts: 1,832
Thanked: 103 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srikant View Post
Mobil or Castrol Edge Turbo diesel for fully synthetic engine oil for Swift DDiS?

How come Castrol Edge fully synthetic is just 200 per liter when Mobil sells fully synthetic for almost 1000 per liter?
Rs. 200/lt? Are you sure? Thats a good price! Seems worth buying... just don't belive that you are buying a real fully synth product... thats the point!

Quote:
Originally Posted by R2D2 View Post
Castrol India seems to be very cagey about this oil. No specs, no literature. I had to go visit the Castrol UK site to get the info.
The specs that are given on the UK site may very well not hold true for the Indian product. Which MNC sells the same stuff under the same brand in all countries??

Quote:
Originally Posted by amit_mechengg View Post
i too had mentioned this earlier. castrol has the worst style of marketing and product display. when i was hunting for a 80w90 gear box oil all the dealers here in pune were eagerly handing the Castrol TQ oil.
what the heck there is no grade and specs on the can. its just written automatic transmission and power steering applications
Its all deliberately done. I'd just ignore such products. Unlike few years ago, there are many other better brands to choose from... and they haven't adopted these kind of crafty tactics.

Last edited by Raccoon : 20th July 2009 at 23:59.
Raccoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2009, 00:53   #1751
Senior - BHPian
 
nitrous's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: UAE/Lon/Madras
Posts: 6,955
Thanked: 245 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srikant View Post
How come Castrol Edge fully synthetic is just 200 per liter when Mobil sells fully synthetic for almost 1000 per liter?

For christ's sake, Magnatec costs more!
nitrous is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2009, 05:29   #1752
BHPian
 
srikant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bengaluru
Posts: 488
Thanked: 9 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsk1979 View Post
Castrol Edge turbodiesel is API-CI4 and exceeds the required specification of your car. You can go for it.
Cost for 4 liters should be around 2000rs
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...ml#post1388283 (ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil)

Oh my bad, sorry guys its 2000 for 4 liters. That s Rs.500.00 bucks per liter. .Still half the price of Mobil??

Last edited by srikant : 21st July 2009 at 05:31.
srikant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2009, 11:02   #1753
Senior - BHPian
 
DieselFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,547
Thanked: 180 Times
Default

Folks,

I came to know that Castrol Edge Turbo diesel has a CF rating and not suitable for DDIS or MJD engines which need a minimum of CG rating. So beware when you use Castrol Edge Turbo diesel for Swift D or Punto/palio MJD. Details provided in the link below -

PBA-Edge Turbo Diesel
DieselFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2009, 11:29   #1754
gpa
Senior - BHPian
 
gpa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,724
Thanked: 203 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R2D2 View Post
Castrol India seems to be very cagey about this oil. No specs, no literature.
I was looking to switch to Castrol's Edge at my car's 10K service and this is exactly what made me change my mind about it.
In the end I went in for Mobil 1.
gpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2009, 11:29   #1755
BHPian
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kollam, Kerala
Posts: 368
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselFan View Post
Folks,

I came to know that Castrol Edge Turbo diesel has a CF rating and not suitable for DDIS or MJD engines which need a minimum of CG rating. So beware when you use Castrol Edge Turbo diesel for Swift D or Punto/palio MJD. Details provided in the link below -

PBA-Edge Turbo Diesel

But as per Quadrajet Manual, oil should be API-CH4+ or higher grade!
janitha is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Where to buy Mobil1 / Castrol Synthetic Oil in Mumbai? Max Shifting gears 27 14th June 2015 23:41
Synthetic Oil in Bangalore epyupc Modifications & Accessories 49 29th May 2015 15:03
Oil change..Synthetic, where to source DRC Technical Stuff 21 2nd December 2007 15:00
Synthetic Oil karthik247 Technical Stuff 10 8th November 2005 18:02


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 03:43.

Copyright 2000 - 2016, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks