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Old 20th February 2010, 22:16   #2401
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I have not had any such problems so far.

Can you please let me know the exact reason for the possible clutch slip ?
Bike specific oils are JASO MA certified while Car oils are not.
if you need synthetic oil for 2 wheelers use Motul 300V
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Old 21st February 2010, 07:18   #2402
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I have not had any such problems so far.

Can you please let me know the exact reason for the possible clutch slip ?
It is not the synthetic per se. Car oils contain some special additive which will cause clutch slippage in the long term in bikes that have an oil bath clutch - where the engine oil doubles up as gear oil as well. So it is good to use a bike specific oil from the same manufacturer. Shell has a bike specific mineral oil only which costs ~ Rs 200 per litre.

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I bought shell helix ultra at Rs 1015 per litre for my motorcycle at a shell petrol bunk and I was asked 4060 for 4 litres.

Can you let me know where I can get it cheaper

I'm as of now ok with the performance of Synt S. After some time,I will upgrade to Mobil1
Dude, using a car engine oil in a motorcycle with a wet clutch is a BAD idea. Anti fricition additives in the oil will cause the clutch to slip. Synthetics lubricate better than mineral so you can possibly experience even more slippage. Motorcycles with wet clutches use JASO spec oils. If possible please drain your bike's synthetic oil and fill it up with bike spec oils.

As for Chennai prices and dealers, I think Chennai based TBHPians like Nitrous and Gansan would be able to advise. Dont buy oil from a Shell petrol station as they always sell at the retail price. Instead buy it from a Shell authorised distributor.

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My ANHC 2nd and 3rd service duration is 3 months and I am not travelling hardly 1000 kms, but to retain the warranty I have to change the Synthetic oil after 1000KMS.
What is the deterioration of the oil, can this IDEMITSU Synthetic oil (used after 1000km), can it be put in Maruti 800?
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^^^Do you really hate the poor 800 that much?

In short, please don't do it.
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ok guys i dont know too much about oils. i need suggestions on what oil to buy for my accord v6. im already using mobil1 supersynth 5w50 in my getz and that is pretty good but i dont know if it will be suitable for the accord. not stuck on any particular brand.
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My ANHC 2nd and 3rd service duration is 3 months and I am not travelling hardly 1000 kms, but to retain the warranty I have to change the Synthetic oil after 1000KMS.
What is the deterioration of the oil, can this IDEMITSU Synthetic oil (used after 1000km), can it be put in Maruti 800?
You will need to follow Honda's recommended intervals to retain your warranty irrespective of the mileage done in that time interval.

And it is better not to use the Idemitsu synth, which is possibly 5w-30 or 10w-30 in your Maruti 800. It would be too thin. Dont experiment with engine oils. You can wind up with hefty repair bills.

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ok guys i dont know too much about oils. i need suggestions on what oil to buy for my accord v6. im already using mobil1 supersynth 5w50 in my getz and that is pretty good but i dont know if it will be suitable for the accord. not stuck on any particular brand.
Other than Mobil 1 which comes in 2 viscosities (0w-40 and 5w-50), the other options you have are Shell helix Ultra 5w-40 or OWS 5w-50.

You have much wider choices in mineral or semi synth. Castrol Magnatec comes to mind as does Shell Helix HX5 15w-40.

But it is best you check your owners manual for the recommended viscosity at the expected ambient temps.

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When I had the Santro I changed the oil to semi synthetic at about 30K kms. The difference was tangible, engine became smoother & became bit silent and this is something I felt that could raise many eyebrows, the revving became smoother !
I did the same but used the Valvoline semi synthetic for my esteem. The engine just became too silent. And the acceleration was nice

Mileage went up too but after a while it dropped thanks to the free revving nature after the oil change and a heavy right foot

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ok guys i dont know too much about oils. i need suggestions on what oil to buy for my accord v6. im already using mobil1 supersynth 5w50 in my getz and that is pretty good but i dont know if it will be suitable for the accord. not stuck on any particular brand.
5W40 will give you a bit more power, FE and I think the accord's V6 engine will take Xw40. I wouldn't suggest xW30 with the mumbai summer.

Your options:
Mobil Synt S - 5W40
OWS 5W40
Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
Castrol EDGE 5W40

Can you check your owner's manual and revert?
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Which synthetic oil is recommended for Getz 1.3 ??
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Guys, my May 2006 Xing is due for its 30k service. I came across Mobil 1 XHP 10w40 and 20w50. I live in Delhi and the car is driven in the city only. I've three queries:

1. Which Grade should I go for?

2. Is Mobil 1 XHP Pure Mineral Oil or Semi-Synthetic (like Shell Helix).

3. Any other good offerings for the Xing (I'm aware of Shell Helix's Semi-Synthetic 20w50)

Moreover, Xing's manual recommends 20w50 and the Oil used by Hyundai Service Centers is Servo 20w40.

Thanks
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5W40 will give you a bit more power, FE and I think the accord's V6 engine will take Xw40. I wouldn't suggest xW30 with the mumbai summer.

Your options:
Mobil Synt S - 5W40
OWS 5W40
Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
Castrol EDGE 5W40

Can you check your owner's manual and revert?
i completely missed this post. thanks alot. well the manual recommends 15w40. mobil1 is available in 5w50 for 650 per litre which works out to 2800. the ows na racing oil costs 5350 for the same. i dont think its worth spending that much more.

R2D2 - thanks, im looking only at synthetic.
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Hey guys.
I wanted to know this.
Is brand really important does it make difference?

e.g. for a swift 1.3 petrol manufacture recommended is 20W40 . Any brand synthetic oil should be good right for city driving.

I would choose a particular brand of oil may be for one reason.
If manufacture recommends that brand of oil.

Other wise I feel it make sense to buy and brand which fits your budget and change it a regular interval (3000 5000 petrol, 3000 4000 diesel).

I felt its not a good idea of buying expensive oil pushing the car to 10000 km without oil change (If a good brand of synthetic oil can do more than 5000km. Then why do we feel the engine is more smother/ responsive /quieter after a oil change ).
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Hey guys.
I wanted to know this.
Is brand really important does it make difference?

e.g. for a swift 1.3 petrol manufacture recommended is 20W40 . Any brand synthetic oil should be good right for city driving.

I would choose a particular brand of oil may be for one reason.
If manufacture recommends that brand of oil.

Other wise I feel it make sense to buy and brand which fits your budget and change it a regular interval (3000 5000 petrol, 3000 4000 diesel).

I felt its not a good idea of buying expensive oil pushing the car to 10000 km without oil change (If a good brand of synthetic oil can do more than 5000km. Then why do we feel the engine is more smother/ responsive /quieter after a oil change ).
As long as the right grade is used, it shouldn't matter which brand. It is, however, recommended that you stick to the same brand, i.e. if you have put Castrol in your car at the beginning, you stick to Castrol the next time as well. Don't keep changing brands every time. Just make sure the oil you buy is genuinely from that brand and not spurious.

With my M800 I usually felt the engine getting sluggish towards the end of the oil change period (5K kms) and after an oil change and injector cleaning, the car felt a little peppier. However this peppiness lasted about a week or so. Then it went back to its normal performance. Again towards the end of the 5K limit it would start getting a little worse. But it was just a little worse, mind you.

With the Santro Xing I have exceeded the oil change interval by at least two months, but I still find the engine as smooth as ever. The oil level is pretty much the same and the oil still appears more of its original colour. Of course the car is used about four kilometres a day, and once in a month a long drive. The present oil should last another two months imho.
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I have used mineral oils exceeding the manufacturer specified grade . Sometimes blended oils.
But after use of various oils but always of good Makes , i have come to conclusion that simply adhering to a good brand and specified grade and sticking or bettering ( preponing ) oil change interval both in terms of mileage and time is more than enough.
No point is wasting good money on more expensive mineral oils / synthetic oils IMHO.
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