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Old 18th August 2015, 01:30   #4246
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@lapiz_lazuli; The chart is just a generic guide. A lot depends on the tolerances of the manufacturer and his perception. See the Honda Civic, in India they recommend 0W30, while in the US 0w20 is also kosher. Arizona and parts of NM and Calif can be as hot if no hotter. Only the driving conditions may not be that bad in the US. Honda have reportedly allowed 0W20 in some other iVTEC engines here.
My Gulf-spec Honda Civic's manual specifies 5W40.
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Old 18th August 2015, 09:50   #4247
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My Gulf-spec Honda Civic's manual specifies 5W40.
Sounds about right for the Gulf region. As I have mentioned I am using 0W30 in my Civic and will soon be switching my Brio over.
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Old 18th August 2015, 16:43   #4248
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With Amazon being widely used for spares be it for two wheelers or four, they are increasing the products to their portfolio along with the variety.

Found this engine oil replacement guide for cars as well as bikes so wanted to put it here for easy reference and to all who don't understand these terms.

Below are the screen shots of the same:

1) For CARS:

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2) For BIKES:

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PS: I have no connection/affiliation with Amazon or their sellers. I have just put this for spreading the knowledge. Thanks.
So in simple words, I drive a 15year old car done 150000 kms in Ahmedabad stop go traffic where temps touch 5degrees and 45 degrees, I should select 5w50?

Isnt that a tad too thick for a car like Suzuki or Honda?
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So in simple words, I drive a 15year old car done 150000 kms in Ahmedabad stop go traffic where temps touch 5degrees and 45 degrees, I should select 5w50?

Isnt that a tad too thick for a car like Suzuki or Honda?
Unless your car is burning oil I will be loathe to go beyond SAE40. SAE50 was required for the good ol' FIAT.
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Semi-synth can be a real can of worms.

The manufacturer recommended oil for my Figo diesel is 5w-30 semi-synthetic oil.

Initially I used to get it serviced at ASC using their oil but during the last service, I used Castrol magnatec 5w-30 which costed me around 1800/-(don't remember the actual amount) for 4 liters whereas the ones used by the ASC costs approx 1200/-

Castrol costing appox 1.5 times more than Ford supplied oil. Is it because the synthetic component in Ford supplied oil is very less?What do you think? Which one is the better of the two?
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Initially I used to get it serviced at ASC using their oil but during the last service, I used Castrol magnatec 5w-30 which costed me around 1800/-(don't remember the actual amount) for 4 liters whereas the ones used by the ASC costs approx 1200/-

Castrol costing appox 1.5 times more than Ford supplied oil. Is it because the synthetic component in Ford supplied oil is very less?What do you think? Which one is the better of the two?
O think Castrol try and keep a premium image. Also, Ford oil comes in bulk -50/100 drums. I do not think the synth content has much to do with the pricing. As long as the oil conforms to the grade and API rating I do not care.
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But temps in ahmedabad touch 47 regularly (weather station is located in the greener part of the city and hence records about 5 degrees less) and I have to drive 1 full hour in heavy stop go traffic. Plus the car has done 150000 kms. Do you still suggest a 5w40? Not to mention now the car engine has started that tappet noise (a lil bit only though).

Also a search on team-bhp for lancer oil digs up detailed posts with oil recommendations of 5w50.

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@devarshi84; Kanpur is not any lower. I am using 0W30 and 5W30 in my Civic & Brio.
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I found this oil called Petronas available in three trims.

Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 for maruti costs 1800
Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 for tata costs 1950
Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 costs 3200.

All three have 100% synthetic written on them. What is the difference?

Why the difference in price?
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Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 for maruti costs 1800
Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 for tata costs 1950
Petronas Syntium 3000 5w40 costs 3200.

All three have 100% synthetic written on them.
Check the API ratings. They should differ from API-SJ to SN.
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All three have the same rating and literature front and back, except for the tata and maruti branding on two of them.
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All three have the same rating and literature front and back, except for the tata and maruti branding on two of them.
The co-branding explains it. They are all the same, but due to co-branding some royalty is paid. I remember many years ago, I saw a BP pump stocking (I think) Shell lubes. There were to grades in Yellow and Red Cans which the yellow of a higher API rating. He also, had the Maruti co-branded oil (MGA). Lower rating at a price equal or higher than the higher grade oil. This was over a decade ago, so my memory is a bit shaky on the exact details.
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Can anyone recommend a suitable oil for my Skoda Rapid? Till now I haven't been bothered to change from the regular oil that skoda uses but would like to try an upgrade. My car has run 70k and is about 3.5yrs old.

Additionally, are there any fuel additives that someone has used and would recommend ?
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Can anyone recommend a suitable oil for my Skoda Rapid? Till now I haven't been bothered to change from the regular oil that skoda uses but would like to try an upgrade. My car has run 70k and is about 3.5yrs old.

Additionally, are there any fuel additives that someone has used and would recommend ?
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Hi Dan9ie, You may try synthetic as you are looking for an upgrade. M1 0W40 would be the best option in that case. Different car manufactures from Europe, US etc factory tested M1 with their cars and I think M1 0W40 is VW, MERC certified hence it will be good to go with this for your Rapid.

Regarding fuel additives, I would request you to be very cautions about the chemical you put into your fuel tank. Normally no manufacturers recommend this. In Kolkata the Taxi drivers(Ambi taxis) religiously put System D (for Diesel engine) during their fuel tank top up. Its available in pouch for Rs 10 or 15 in almost all BP pumps. I talked to few of them and they said they feel engine smoother once using this System D. May be its psychological or may be true but no real test data is available.
I believe it is better to stick to the correct and clean fuel. For me it took some time to identify few good fuel stations in Kolkata and I strictly go to those selected pumps. Optionally you may try Premium fuel like Xtrapremium, Speed etc once in one or two months. Those premium fuels contain cleaners which work alike the additives. And better if you check up and perform necessary cleaning of fuel systems during scheduled maintenance.
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All,

I have a 2005 Esteem which has clocked 1.35K. This is my second car now and is not in use much.
I plan to get engine oil changed. The last change was 1.26K about a year back and it was Shell Helix Full Synthetic.
Now i intend to go again with Full Synthetic only but i am not sure if i need to go 5w40 or 15w40?
I am not keen on Engine flush or decarbonising and would rather drive on Shell V Power for 2-3 tank fulls.
Considering the age of the vehicle, which would be better?
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