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Old 5th October 2007, 20:32   #601
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Ur point no.2 is spot on.
Synthetic oil can be used without flushing.No harm in it,AFAIK.
Ill give U the options. U can choose either of them.
option1:If synthetic fully synthetic 5W50 from major brands is suggested.
option 2:Castrol Magnatec 10W40 is also a recommended product here.
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Old 6th October 2007, 01:07   #602
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Default Maruti 800 - Synthetic or normal ?

Hi,
My 800 purchased in 2004 has run 13000 kms till now. I dont drive much, most probabally only during weekends and mostly inside city. My question is if I use the car so less, is it worth going for Synthetic OR not. I have not changed the oil for a year now, spoke to my mechanic, he checked and said the engine oil is fine for another 2.5K or 3K kms. Guys, please i need advice on

1) should i go for a oil change now as its a year ?
2) If yes , should i go for Synthetic or not ?
3) if NO to Q1) , then when should i change and change to Synthetic or Normal?

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Can U provide pucca detailed data on why engine flush should be used every time oil is changed??
And what are the consequences of not using engine flush every time the oil is changed?
With proof, please.

well i have no proof nor time to look but i am sure of the fact that all mercs , beamers and audi s flush the engine with every oil change : at least in the usa

to mantain optimum cleanliness i presume

love it if you would show me proof otherwise
bought OWS engine fush and 8 lt s of mobil 1 5w50 today


bought from the marspetrochem guys ::official mobil 1 suppliers :: lovely went their office at cotton green stocked cieling high with MOBIL stuff

they didnt have but are getting me the mobil 1 synthetic API GL-4 gearoil
anyone tried that??

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if you have a NEW car , its highly suggested you do flush at every oil change for the rest of its life :: to always keep clean

MOBIL 1 says to flush your engine
how could i forget??will post a link asap

sorry
cheers!!

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I am buying a Baleno(2004) which has done some 85k odd kms. My questions to the forum are as follows
1> Firstly whether I should switch to Synthetic or not at this stage? If not then I plan to stick to Castrol Magnatec.
2> If yes, whether I should flush the engine as I read that Engine flush in old engines can cause issues in the future like opening up leaks etc
3> Which oil should I be buying ? I meant the oil grade.
Would really appreciate some assistance in this regard.
at least i would do the following
85 000 km tune up

decarb your engine [ check out Engine Decarbonizing Machine Manufacturer,Engine Decarbonizing Machine Exporter,Engine Decarbonizing Machine Supplier India ]

flush out your engine oil { use a flush i say OWS}

machine check & clean your injectors

clean throttle body

flush radiator

change gear oil

clean/put in a k&n air filter

fill up mobil 1 5w50 api sm :: improved engine leak additives hence suitable for older engines

change oil filter too go k&n
change fuel filter : i like bosch over purolator

change spark plugs [ OWS ]

also before you decarb
its important
dump a bottle of sonax fuel system cleaner in your car to neutralize any acidic water etc run that full tank dry ; fill up then go thru the above procedure
trust me you wont regret it.

80 ooo Km an no flush ??? thats not possible ; sure you have had your engine flushed occasionally ?

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check out
http://www.marspetrochem.com/pdf/Mob...ynBrochure.pdf

15. Can I use Mobil 1 in older vehicles with high mileage?

Yes you can. Mobil 1 can help increase the life of all engines, even those in
older vehicles and/or with high mileage. The extra cleaners in Mobil 1 can
help clear stuck rings to help restore engine efficiency. Keep in mind,
however, that Mobil 1 cannot correct an existing engine problem

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Synthetic oil can be used without flushing.No harm in it,AFAIK.
Not true. Never mix oils.
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Can U provide pucca detailed data on why engine flush should be used every time oil is changed??
And what are the consequences of not using engine flush every time the oil is changed?
With proof, please.
okay
so
http://www.marspetrochem.com/pdf/Mob...ynBrochure.pdf

17. Do I need to flush my
engine before switching to
Mobil 1?
Absolutely not. No special preparation
is necessary when switching
from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1.

not necessary but is encouraged AND done regularly abroad
it just makes too much sense especially for A NEW car & gunk does come out
carbon cant be good
i put in mobil at 5500 km should have at 1000 km i truly believe

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Ur point no.2 is spot on.
Synthetic oil can be used without flushing.No harm in it,AFAIK.
Ill give U the options. U can choose either of them.
option1:If synthetic fully synthetic 5W50 from major brands is suggested.
option 2:Castrol Magnatec 10W40 is also a recommended product here.
16. Is it okay to mix conventional
oil with Mobil 1?
Mobil 1 is fully compatible with
conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic
motor oils and other synthetic
motor oils, SHOULD it be necessary to
mix them. However the SUPERIOR PERFORMANCE of Mobil 1 will be
reduced by diluting it.

There is the harm man
&
OWS 210 Engine Flush
While oil filters remove sludge, tar, varnish and particles over 25 microns; wear metals and other contaminants less than 25 microns continue to circulate within the engine. These contaminants accumulate within passageways, oil pumps and oil pans blocking oil channels and reducing lubrication. This causes engine wear and sticky valves resulting in sluggish performance, rough and noisy engines. The OWS 210 Engine Flush cleans away loose carbon and sludge buildup while remaining inert to engine internals, such as metal surfaces and rubber seals/gaskets. By clearing away the accumulated sludge & loose carbon deposits; compression, power and efficiency are restored while extending the life of your engine.


plus graphs : check out
OWS - Redefining Auto Servicing

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ALWAYS flush engines (if they have over 50,000 miles on them, or are more than 10 years old) with AMSOIL Engine Flush when converting from petroleum oil to AMSOIL. Petroleum oils create sludge and varnish on the inside of engines. If you put AMSOIL (or most other synthetics) directly into an engine without flushing you risk clogged lifter ports. Most synthetics are very high in detergent action. They will break loose the sludge and varnish the petroleum oil made in large particles. These large particles will circulate throughout your engine, potentially clogging oil galleries and ports. No matter how good an oil is, it does you no good if it can't get to all the places it should in an engine. If a component becomes starved for oil it dies!

All Synthetics Group...AMSOIL Engine Flush

NOTE: If your vehicle has over 80 or 90,000 miles on it or is more than 10 years old, and you are not currently using another synthetic oil, you may not wish to switch over to AMSOIL. Vehicles with such high mileage may have dry, cracked seals and gaskets. Having used conventional oils for so long (even with 3,000 mile oil changes), the sludge and deposits from oil burn-off may have caused a build-up to occur which is plugging the gaps around these seals and gaskets and preventing leaks.[ ]Although the risk is slight, flushing such an engine with AMSOIL Engine Flush might uncover these leaks and create the need for replacement. Depending upon your situation, you may not wish to do this. Even if you don't flush the engine and simply put AMSOIL Synthetic Oil in the engine, the high quality detergent additives in the oil would eventually clean out these deposits anyway. This is a decision that you will have to make on your own. As stated, the risk is small, but it is a possibility.

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i just bought 4l of mobil 1 supersyn from city motor. i paid 625 per litre. the mrp was 1000.
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i just bought 4l of mobil 1 supersyn from city motor. i paid 625 per litre. the mrp was 1000.
printed MRP on my 4 lt jerrycan was 3700 qouted 2900 + tax = rs 3275 ish

would buy official mobil 1 any day over some dude at city motors::as i have said before

Lubricants

official mobil 1 mumbai web site

but whatever make s you a happy jak

stay happy

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Guys, what is the recommended Synthetic oil for Swift Diesel?
15w40 Mobil1 Synthetic meets the standards set by Maruti for the engine.
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printed MRP on my 4 lt jerrycan was 3700 qouted 2900 + tax = rs 3275 ish

would buy official mobil 1 any day over some dude at city motors::as i have said before

Lubricants

official mobil 1 mumbai web site

but whatever make s you a happy jak

stay happy

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its imported by exxonmobil laboratories and its got the same mrp as yours. the only difference is that i bought 4 1l cans. if you wanna pay 800 more go ahead. whatever makes you a happy jack.
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well thats absolutely true. id pay the 900 bucks just to be 100 % sure . Just to know that my oil comes from the right place.
but anyway thats not why im posting
the reason i am , is that i have gone throught the same process as cynerverdie as well .
so cynerverdie u got a friend
guys just call mobil 1 in india and end the speculation !!
....
So yes cyneverdie. i think you have got the correct rates from the correct people.
Good on you ! Join the peace of mind club
boom

i am sure Tool understands me

so yeah man whatever makes you happy
nothing else matters
cheers

ps to akshay
you did mean imported by ExxonMobil Lubricants Pvt.ltd.
ernst&young tower , b 26 , new delhi???
They are the official importers not exxonMobil labs !

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yeah.. exxonmobil lubricants.. wrote lab by mistake.
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Ok guys, help me out, during my last service(20k service) I changed to Mobil 1, 5w50 oil.It's a Baleno. They told me that they'll do flushing and then only put the Mobil 1.The guys there normally do a good job(Smart Cars) but when I've checked after they've put the Engine oil it seems they've not flushed the engine with flushing agent(I was not charged for flushing agent). I asked them how they've done the flushing and they replied that they have run the old oil down and then pour some other oil and then ran that down too.But as far as I know that's not flushing.
So that means currently I'm running on Mobil 1 without flushing done.I'm, not feeling any problem with the engine till now and engine does feel smooth.Will there be any harm with the engine if I keep on running like this ?What should I do?
Carbible says "There is no scientific data to support the idea that mixing mineral and synthetic oils will damage your engine. When switching from a mineral oil to a synthetic, or vice versa, you will potentially leave a small amount of residual oil in the engine. That's perfectly okay because synthetic oil and mineral-based motor oil are, for the most part, compatible with each other. (The exception is pure synetics. Polyglycols don't mix with normal mineral oils.)" But my question, is Mobil 1 5W50 is a synthetic or pure synthetic oil ?
Please tell me guys that it'll be alright or I may be loosing sleep soon.
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