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Old 31st October 2009, 01:02   #241
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@Nikhil, a very informative post, thank you. I see that you mentioned not to upgrade the tire for a santro with steel rims. Any particular reason? Asking because I'm current running my 175/60/13 GIII on my steel rims. Advice needed
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Nikhil, i dont see you mention 195 section of Michelin XM1+ with a 60 profile on 14" rims for a Hyundai Accent? I got the same on my car.

Btw, superb outline and very helpful for tyre chosers
Well, Accent is a car I had forgotten. Like the Verna! I will add it next.

And frankly, I dont recommend 195/60 R14 XM1+ only because of it's price. 185/65 R14 is much more VFM.

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This is the kind of holistic advice I was looking for! Nikhil.

Superb! Done full justice as a tyre dealer. Amazing info of tires.

Quick question: Do PP2 come in 185/70/14? If yes, price?

Which is the best tire for me to upgrade on the DDIS OEM rims?

Critera --> 1) Comfort 2) Performance 3) Price. Noise,looks and longetivity do not matter.

Pls advise
It has nothing to do with me being a tyre dealer. It's just that I'vetyped out whatever little I know about tyres. My knowledge is still restricted to the brands and tyres available in India.

PP2s dont come in 185/70 R14. For you, I would suggest Michelin XM1+ or A Drive or Acelere or ER 60. However, as I said in my post, my pick is the XM1+.
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Well, Accent is a car I had forgotten. Like the Verna! I will add it next.

And frankly, I dont recommend 195/60 R14 XM1+ only because of it's price. 185/65 R14 is much more VFM.
How could you forget Accent, it was one of the biggest success stories of Hyundai


Price Difference of XM1+ Tyres
185/60/R14 : Rs.3650
195/60/R14: Rs.4100

Rs.450 bucks a piece difference is something I can live with

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PP2s dont come in 185/70 R14. For you, I would suggest Michelin XM1+ or A Drive or Acelere or ER 60. However, as I said in my post, my pick is the XM1+.
Could you tell me prices of 185/70 R14 of 1) Michelin XM1+ 2) A Drive 3) Acelere 4) ER 60
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Could you tell me prices of 185/70 R14 of 1) Michelin XM1+
Approximately Rs.3600 per tyre and i dont think you get 70 profile. But it comes with 65 for sure.
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Approximately Rs.3600 per tyre and i dont think you get 70 profile. But it comes with 65 for sure.
185/70 R14 is available in Michelin XM1+ and Apollo accellere as well, check Home - www.michelin.in and apollo tyres site

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Mobike, of course it comes in 185/70 R14! I mean, if it didnt, it would be foolish on Michelin's part to not capitalise on one of the most common sizes in India!

Anand, as mobike posted, the cost is around 3650. Apollo would obviously be cheaper. Maybe around 3300 or so. Similar to A Drive.
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XM1+: This is their entry level tyre in India. Earlier, they had the XM1 which was a major PR disaster for them as they did not work well in Indian conditions. The life of the tyre was extremely short. The XM1+ is basically an XM1 with 10mm extra tread.
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Mobike, of course it comes in 185/70 R14! I mean, if it didnt, it would be foolish on Michelin's part to not capitalise on one of the most common sizes in India!
And of course, Michelin does not offer XM1+ in Santro's stock tyre 155/70 R13, arguably one of the more common sizes in India!! Foolish, innitt?!

http://www.michelin.in/tyre/patterndetail/18/178

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Hi,

I will take the delivery of my New Cedia Sports ( Manachester Red ) from Southern Motors, Bangalore on Thursday. The first changeover would be the miserable Bridgestone RE88 stock tyres that comes as OE fitment. I wish to upsize the stock from 195/60/ R15 to 205/60/ R15. Kindly help me choose which manufacturer brand are worth at, is it Bridgestone G3, Michelin PP2 ( incidently no dealer in Bangalore has PP2 stock), Michelin XM1+ or Godyear . For me the tyres should count on performance, ride quality, both highway and rural (thats the fun part having a CS), longevity. Would require useful recommendations from experts in this area.
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I will take the delivery of my New Cedia Sports ( Manachester Red ) from Southern Motors, Bangalore on Thursday. The first changeover would be the miserable Bridgestone RE88 stock tyres that comes as OE fitment. I wish to upsize the stock from 195/60/ R15 to 205/60/ R15. Kindly help me choose which manufacturer brand are worth at, is it Bridgestone G3, Michelin PP2 ( incidently no dealer in Bangalore has PP2 stock), Michelin XM1+ or Godyear . For me the tyres should count on performance, ride quality, both highway and rural (thats the fun part having a CS), longevity. Would require useful recommendations from experts in this area.
Simple. The PP2s rock. But even we dont have stock right now and it isnt expected for a while.

However, you could get the Conti CPC2s. They are very good. Better than what is anyway available in that size. The CPC2s are extremely good in the wet and pretty good in the dry as well. They are a little noisy though. They are quite comfortable as well.

Will last 40-45k easily.

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And of course, Michelin does not offer XM1+ in Santro's stock tyre 155/70 R13, arguably one of the more common sizes in India!! Foolish, innitt?!

http://www.michelin.in/tyre/patterndetail/18/178
It is coming in XM1+ nowadays.... Supply is regularly available.
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Ajay, check out XM1+ they are really well rounded tyres and should satisfy you on all counts that you listed in your requirement.

Btw, they are very silent
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Mobike ---- XM1+ for a Cedia? YIKES!

They are fantastic tyres, but the Cedia requires something more..... At least CPC2s and AD07s at best. PP2s if available are the best compromise between the two.
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Price Difference of XM1+ Tyres
185/60/R14 : Rs.3650

195/60/R14: Rs.4100
Avinash/ Nikhil, you guys sure of those prices? When I last checked, the quote was 4450/- per tyre (185/60/14). Now a coupla hundred here or there is okay, knowing your negotiating skill, but 800 bucks difference????
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hi

I agree with Nikhil on the Conti CPC2s. The CPC2s are extremely good in the wet and pretty good in the dry as well. They are a little noisy though. They are quite comfortable as well.

I got 205*55*R16 for my Elantra and its amazing to drive now. The traction is great but the ride is a bit bumpy. on the noice, i think i feel its better now for i drove the Apollo Accelere Sportz before the Conti. The Appolo lasted only 35 kms and had sidewall bulges also for it being asymetric tryres. The softer part of the tyre went off in a hurry.

The contri is great tyres and you can pick them up at Sai Iyengar and sons, Indiranagar. I know Ashwin for good no of years now and he is the best as far as price is concerned in town.

cheers, let me know if you need further information and contacts. my number is 9945625976.
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Mobike ---- XM1+ for a Cedia? YIKES!

They are fantastic tyres, but the Cedia requires something more..... At least CPC2s and AD07s at best. PP2s if available are the best compromise between the two.
Sure why not? Not everyone will drive as if they live on a racetrack. His priorities could be different

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Avinash/ Nikhil, you guys sure of those prices? When I last checked, the quote was 4450/- per tyre (185/60/14). Now a coupla hundred here or there is okay, knowing your negotiating skill, but 800 bucks difference????
Who gave you that ridiculous quote for 185/60/14? We can put out a hit on him

Abysnthguzzler and me got XM1+ fitted together. He got it for Rs.3600 for same configuration.

I got mine (195/60/14) for Rs.4100 because this size had a discount and Ritesh was kind enough to mention it whereas the other dealers where "chalu" not to let me know of this offer and were quoting Rs.4600.

Moreover, i got a Jan'09 manafactured tyre when i bought it in Mar'09. Otherwise these dealers palm you off very old manafactured tyres as most buyers are ignorant
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