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Old 31st October 2013, 16:19   #46
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Karizma + Michelin Sirac street tyres + 55/60W headlight bulb = perfect machine for Ladakh
Are those Get Off Ur Ass saddle bags?

Nevertheless Karizma is an understated tourer we have in the market.
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Before carrying out any work - check and recharge the battery.
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Only a XxW40 engine oil must be used in ZMA/ZMR - Motul 3000 20W40
Till the bike was under warranty HHASS used 10W30 with the oil change interval every 6K kms but post warranty I stated using Motul 3000 20W40. Still use the same. So the oil dealer keeps the stocks for my usage separately.

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Clean the carburetor and set the AFR initially at 3.5 turns Anti-clockwise(after fully closing the afr screw) then fine tune it.
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Replace air filter.
This will be done without doubt.

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Clean the chain with kerosene and Lubricate it with SAE 90 gear oil or even 140 will do.
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Still, if the engine feels strained post 90kmph then remove the cylinder head and decarb the piston crown, head and polish the valves. Usually, the head is opened at 30K mark.
Hope I don't have to open the engine. Is it worth doing it now or compulsory at 30K kms?

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Anyone from Hyderabad who can give me a contact who deals with spares for Karizma and the place where I can find genuine stocks. One place I know is near Rani gunj Hero MotorCorp dealer + service centre.

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Are those Get Off Ur Ass saddle bags?

Nevertheless Karizma is an understated tourer we have in the market.
yes. We carried these and Cramsters (on R15, RTR)
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Nevertheless Karizma is an understated tourer we have in the market.
I fully agree as the bike so calm and composed in the stock form.

A wonderful engine and design lets the air away from the rider's face. Live the aerodynamics and ergonomics the bike has. A complete VFM.

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Usually the Dealers/service centers will not have all the parts in stock but Hero's Authorised stockist/distributor which is located in Uppal has each and every part.
Contact no. 040-27200597

What all parts need replacement ? Do you need any part numbers ?

Opening the head to remove the carbon deposits is a normal at 30K kms. Run for another 8K kms and then perform head decarb.

To carry out this job- Tank and head needs to be removed. Head gasket and few other oil seals will need replacement.
Don't expect the mechanics at A.S.C to this job as it requires a lot of cleaning by hand.

As the carbon deposits increase, the dynamic compression increases, heat exchange between piston and combustion chamber is hampered due to thick layer of carbon... all this causes the bike to lose smoothness.

However, this carbon layer(when thin) is also responsible for an increase in mileage which is noticed after first 1000kms.
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Usually the Dealers/service centers will not have all the parts in stock but Hero's Authorised stockist/distributor which is located in Uppal has each and every part.
Contact no. 040-27200597
Isn't there one near Ramkote too? Would this Uppal guy be open now?

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What all parts need replacement ? Do you need any part numbers ?
I need to replace the Clutch cable, Accelerator cable (A & B), brake pads, chain (if needed), The left and right side cowl (battery and air filter cover).

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Opening the head to remove the carbon deposits is a normal at 30K kms. Run for another 8K kms and then perform head decarb.
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To carry out this job- Tank and head needs to be removed. Head gasket and few other oil seals will need replacement.
Don't expect the mechanics at A.S.C to this job as it requires a lot of cleaning by hand.
I have stopped visiting the ASC from the past one year.

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As the carbon deposits increase, the dynamic compression increases, heat exchange between piston and combustion chamber is hampered due to thick layer of carbon... all this causes the bike to lose smoothness.
Oh! Will look into this if it is important. Will ask my mechanic and see what he says.

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Isn't there one near Ramkote too? Would this Uppal guy be open now?
M/S Venkateshwara Associates still have an authorised outlet at Ramkote. Previously they used to sell but they don't sell any spare parts now.
Hero has setup another stockist at Uppal as the storage space in ramkote was not sufficient.

There is another shop by name Sai Krishna agency(Deals only in Spares of Hero) which is also located in Ramkote, just to the opposite of Shalimar function hall.

BTW, Where do you stay ?

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I need to replace the Clutch cable, Accelerator cable (A & B), brake pads, chain (if needed), The left and right side cowl (battery and air filter cover).
CABLE COMP 'A' THROTTLE 17910-KRY-900
CABLE COMP 'B' THROTTLE 17950-KRY-900

PAD SET FRONT 06455-GCR-006

ELEMENT COMP AIR CLEANER 17211-KRY-900

CHAIN DRIVE 520-108 40530-KRY-900

COVER 'A' RIGHT SIDE 83540-KRY-900ZA ZA here stands for Black color.
COVER 'B' RIGHT SIDE 83542-KRY-900

COVER 'A' LEFT SIDE 83640-KRY-900ZA
COVER 'B' LEFT SIDE 83642-KRY-900

Except chain, get all original parts.
For chain- buy a chain made by ROLON or Diamond or DID.


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I have stopped visiting the ASC from the past one year.
Good. The jokers at ASC are fit for nothing.
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M/S Venkateshwara Associates still have an authorised outlet at Ramkote. Previously they used to sell but they don't sell any spare parts now.
Hero has setup another stockist at Uppal as the storage space in ramkote was not sufficient.

There is another shop by name Sai Krishna agency (Deals only in Spares of Hero) which is also located in Ramkote, just to the opposite of Shalimar function hall.

BTW, Where do you stay ?

CHAIN DRIVE 520-108 40530-KRY-900

Except chain, get all original parts.
For chain- buy a chain made by ROLON or Diamond or DID.
Thank you very much. You just made my life and search easier.

I stay near Alwal. In case your free we can catch up.

BTW, what is Chain drive? Is it the chain itself or sprockets too? What I feel is if the chain is worn out the sprockets too would have so isn't it better to change them at a go?

So I shall be visiting Sai krishna agency directly on Monday with the above part names and numbers. I hope they stock these. Do they have any contact number to enquire before hand? And do you have any idea of the approximate costs each part could be of?

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Slight correction part no of CABLE COMP 'B' THROTTLE is 17920KRY900S

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BTW, what is Chain drive? Is it the chain itself or sprockets too?
I hope they stock these. Do they have any contact number to enquire before hand? And do you have any idea of the approximate costs each part could be of?
Part no. Description MRP( 5%)
17910KRY900S CABLE COMP 'A' THROTTLE 82.00
17920KRY900S CABLE COMP 'B' THROTTLE 89.00
06455GCR006S PAD, SET FRONT 1284.00
17211KRY900S ELEMENT AIR CLEANER 222.00
40530KRY900S CHAIN DRIVE 520-108 587.00

No idea about the covers.

OE Chain kit includes rear sprocket. I don't remember whether it includes a front sprocket or not, just check it.
Hero has three different suppliers/vendors for chains.
1.Hero's own Hero chains
2.Rolon
3.Diamond chain
(a sort of lucky draw).
Hero chains don't even last for 10K kms, rolon and diamonds will go on for atleast 50K kms with proper maintenance.

Most probably I will be visiting Sai Krishna on Monday around 5:30pm to get some spares for my Splendor, I will check for the parts and let you know.
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Most probably I will be visiting Sai Krishna on Monday around 5:30pm to get some spares for my Splendor, I will check for the parts and let you know.
We can do it together and go spare part hunting

What say?

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Got the bike serviced today from my mechanic.

Parts changed:

1) Air filter element - Rs 200;
2) Clutch cable - Rs 75;
3) Accelerator cable A - Rs 82;
4) Accelerator cable B - Rs 89;
5) Motul 20W40 - Rs 275.

Life left:

1) Drive set (consists of the chain with front and rear sprocket) - Rs 971;
2) Brake pads - ~ Rs 1100;
3) Brake shoes - ~ Rs 280.

Got the bike's oil changed and every part lubricated. The chain was opened and cleaned with kerosene and then lubricated with SAE 90. The sprockets and chain are still in good shape and have good life left. The spark plug was cleaned and set to the specific clearance. Emery paper was rubbed to remove the dust off the brake shoes and the tyre was also aligned properly - I am Happy!

Parts to be procured and changed:

1) Cover A and B - Right Side
2) Cover A and B - Left Side
3) 60/55W Phillips Xtreme vision or Osram Night breaker with relays
4) LED bulbs for the tail lamps and indicators.

As it is post festival and ASC and spares stockist was closed, I will be visiting Venkateshwara Agencies and Sri Krishna Agencies for the covers tomorrow.

The bike is back in form and no problem touching 100 kmph as I used to feel earlier.

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Only problem left to be attacked is:

When I apply the front discs the lever travels smoothly with good bite for a small distance after which it gets hard and jerky movement. It doesn't go in smoothly. I hope you guys are getting what I mean. When I asked my mechanic he says may be the pistons would not be working properly or the oil seals could be gone. He will open the brake callipers tomorrow and check the pistons and seals. If the calliper is fine then on the oil reservoir box could be the problem. He named some part called "Disc Major" to be changed which could cost ~ Rs 400.

Can someone identify the part and the source of the problem?!

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Only problem left to be attacked is:

He will open the brake callipers tomorrow and check the pistons and seals. If the calliper is fine then on the oil reservoir box could be the problem. He named some part called "Disc Major" to be changed which could cost ~ Rs 400.

Can someone identify the part and the source of the problem?!

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He must be referring to the Major Kit, which are a number of components that fit around and in the Master Cylinder(The Oil Reservoir Box).
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He must be referring to the Major Kit, which are a number of components that fit around and in the Master Cylinder(The Oil Reservoir Box).
Any idea how do these fail @ 23K kms? I guess mine is the KBX make!

Any idea what all does it consist of?

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Any idea how do these fail @ 23K kms? I guess mine is the KBX make!

Any idea what all does it consist of?

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I'm not sure how they fail.

They consist of:

Cylinder Set Master(Major Kit):

BOOT COMP.
PUSH ROD
SPRING , PUSH ROD
CIRCLIP
PISTON
SPRING

Minor Kit consists of:

SEAL SET, PISTON (2)
PISTON, 26 (2)

I don't know details, but these are the parts that are labelled in the Parts Catalogue.
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I'm not sure how they fail.
I don't know details, but these are the parts that are labelled in the Parts Catalogue.
Thank you.

So should I order both or only the Major will do?

Just was surfing XBhp Karizma thread and found the service catalogue.

Here it is:

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