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Old 9th December 2012, 17:43   #166
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a bit OT, but going by the Duke 200, what would be the mileage figure for 390? Is there any way to derive an approximation?
25 Kmpl if driven insanely. 30 kmpl with regular driving style.

Now can you tell me if it coming first or is it the fully faired version that will hit our shores first
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25 Kmpl if driven insanely. 30 kmpl with regular driving style.

Now can you tell me if it coming first or is it the fully faired version that will hit our shores first
The streetfighter is going to come first as Ktm already told that at EICMA. They did not showcase the faired version or the touring avtar so neither of that is coming as of now. Indian market wants the 390 Duke first. The response may not be great if they get a faired or touring version, IMO.
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A couple of young idiots were practicing stoppies in my neighborhood yesterday with an R15 and a Duke 200. Man, that Duke sounds terrible. Pathetic. I had thought that this was just the sound to be expected from small 4 stroke singles, but the R15, itself a pretty moped sounding little insect, sounds positively exhilarating compared to the impotent agricultural whirring of the Duke 200. Even my Honda kerosene powered generator sounds sweeter than the Duke 200.

I hope the 390 sounds a lot better than the 200.

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A couple of young idiots were practicing stoppies in my neighborhood yesterday with an R15 and a Duke 200. Man, that Duke sounds terrible. Pathetic. I had thought that this was just the sound to be expected from small 4 stroke singles, but the R15, itself a pretty moped sounding little insect, sounds positively exhilarating compared to the impotent agricultural whirring of the Duke 200. Even my Honda kerosene powered generator sounds sweeter than the Duke 200.

I hope the 390 sounds a lot better than the 200.
touche. the duke sounds like a luna. I tried looking up videos on YouTube for a better sounding exhaust for the duke but even the akraprovic for duke 200 sounds puny.
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If you want exhaust note, look elsewhere. Here is how even the RC8 stock sounds! If you want a duke, you should get a pair of ear plugs.

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So, I guess each one of you is as lost as I am

With Stefan Pierer clearly stating that the next KTM will be fully faired one (which everybody assumes will be a derivative of D390), when is the D390 coming? And if is not coming right away, then why does the KTM India website says 'coming soon to India' ? SP talked about the tourer version too, which I personally am neither interested, nor following.

All sane logic says that the D390 as well as its sports version are the next inline. Question is, which one is coming first and when? And will the other one follow in say about six months?

I am looking at KTM as my next bike since it has the right displacement and power figures for me. Problem is, I don't know which one and when. One thing is for sure, I am not buying anything till either or both of them come along...Till then, I'll keep driving my cars while my century old 'mediocrity in motion - Bajaj Avenger' (I don't like my bike) can keep resting in my garage. Chances are, it may directly get sold without being driven much!
The KTM 390 is going to take some time bro.

Dilli abhi door hai ......
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Can someone explain as to why KTM isn't very popular in the US & European market in street/sport guise. OTR it is popular.

We don't see many RC8's or Super Duke.
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The KTM 390 is going to take some time bro.

Dilli abhi door hai ......
Any tips on the impending (planned) launch or is it a guesstimate? Any time frame mentioned to you by your 'sources'?

BTW, which one is coming first. I always thought it will be the D390 but SP's interview seem to suggest otherwise
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Any tips on the impending (planned) launch or is it a guesstimate? Any time frame mentioned to you by your 'sources'?

BTW, which one is coming first. I always thought it will be the D390 but SP's interview seem to suggest otherwise
I just mentioned what I heard - exactly as I heard it.

I for one would be very surprised if the bike makes it within Q1 of next year.
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I just mentioned what I heard - exactly as I heard it.

I for one would be very surprised if the bike makes it within Q1 of next year.
Doc, I think Bajaj will let the Duke 200 rule the markets for a while. Atleast till their cost benefit analysis show that they have made a handsome profit over and above the money that went into R&Ding the bike. After that they will concentrate lesser on the Duke 200's sales and start advertising the 390 in mass media. And when the market is ripe for the taking, they shall unleash the 390.

Most people who are going to be first time owners in the Duke segment, will go for the 390 as it makes more sense. Also few owners of the 200 will upgrade to the 390 but thats just following the heart over mind. Once the 390 comes, the 200s sales will take a beating and bajaj knows that and hence the delay.

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There will be differentials built into both the product as well as the pricing.
We can only wait and watch then. This part of your statement certainly makes the rumors about the tourer and fairing versions seem all the more logical. Fully faired bike from Bajaj's stable would be a first

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Doc, I think Bajaj will let the Duke 200 rule the markets for a while. Atleast till their cost benefit analysis show that they have made a handsome profit over and above the money that went into R&Ding the bike. After that they will concentrate lesser on the Duke 200's sales and start advertising the 390 in mass media. And when the market is ripe for the taking, they shall unleash the 390.

Most people who are going to be first time owners in the Duke segment, will go for the 390 as it makes more sense. Also few owners of the 200 will upgrade to the 390 but thats just following the heart over mind. Once the 390 comes, the 200s sales will take a beating and bajaj knows that and hence the delay.
Bro I have seen Bajaj closely - they are masters at what they do. And one of the things they are Business school case study material for is product position and pricing. There is no way they will allow the 390 to cannibalise the 200's sales. There will be differentials built into both the product as well as the pricing. And they will cast a wide net, specifically targetting different segments. Their brains are always working man.
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My duke 200 gives me 35-38 and when im very sedate i.e constantly in 6th gives me 41. The 390 cant be expected to give more than 30 on a regular basis and on very sedate riding should give 32-35kmpl but i highly doubt that.
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25 Kmpl if driven insanely. 30 kmpl with regular driving style.
Anything in excess of 25kmpl from 390 (city condition) is fine with me. The more the merrier. Given the rising cost of gas these days, fuel economy was one of the important criteria between 200 and 390, as my average distance covered per day would be about 50kms.

Coming back to the next BIG question of the LAUNCH, why would they put COMING SOON on the indian site, if the launch, as speculated is beyond the first quart of 2013?? 3-4 months time is not really 'soon' :( (unless their yardstick is Royal enfield)
considering 3 month to launch and 2 months for deliveries, 5 months is a long long time. I have been waiting for almost a year for the bigger version of 200 and now the patience seems to be running thin. Sometimes, i just feel like going along with the 200. But then what breaks me is that i curse myself everyday in going for a AVL 350 over AVL 500. Dont want a repeat of that and hope we hear some good news about 390 sooner then later.
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The Duke 200's mileage for me has been :

Touring 35 kmpl

City 30 kmpl

Racing 25 kmpl

I do nor think the dip in mileage between this and the 390 will be less than 5 kmpl.

That said, the Duke 690 returns actually pretty respectable mileage of 20-22 kmpl. It is the more frugal bike when compared to the Ninja 650 per all foreign comparos.
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There is no way they will allow the 390 to cannibalise the 200's sales. There will be differentials built into both the product as well as the pricing. And they will cast a wide net, specifically targetting different segments. Their brains are always working man.
That would indeed make for an interesting scenario once the price is out. On one hand the Duke-200 is pegged at roughly 1.5L and the Ninja 250R @ 3.2L.

I don't think the 390 would either bite into the sales of Honda 250R or Ninja 250R. The target customer (if he really knows what he is buying) is different.

Wish I had an unlimited garage or atleast could ride a bike for a significant distance prior to making the purchase. That way, I would exactly know what I am getting into.

A 1000 or a 600 or a 750 (the best of both worlds) A super moto. Ohh! The list is endless
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So the 390 Duke is coming in the naked avtar. Also UK prices announced.

Check out this link:-
http://www.ktm.com/gb/news-events/ne...l#.UMYHJuRtimh
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