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Old 27th April 2013, 14:05   #481
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I have been using normal fuel on my 200 for almost its entire life. Lets see.
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I have been using normal fuel on my 200 for almost its entire life. Lets see.
Although I was told that at the time of buying the 200 that I should fill only premium fuel, I have used regular fuel almost the whole time, just due to a lack of premium fuel availability where I live. But I haven't faced any issues with my bike at all.

I do feel that when I fill Speed or Extra Premium, the engine runs smoother, and the pick-up is more linear though.

I don't foresee fuel to be a problem on the 390
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Most worrying part for me ...
It will be interesting to see how KTM/BAL has handled this, I'm sure they would have given it a thought considering that it is being launched across 76 countries.
They will most likely have different tunes for different countries. They will back-off the ignition timing in countries that have low octane fuel.

They could also use lower comp pistons or thicker head gaskets to drop the compression, but playing with the maps is probably the most cost effective.
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They will most likely have different tunes for different countries. They will back-off the ignition timing in countries that have low octane fuel.

They could also use lower comp pistons or thicker head gaskets to drop the compression, but playing with the maps is probably the most cost effective.
They should be able to do that with the same maps as well. My 'old-tech' bike also does that if the quality of fuel is low knocking starts it retards the timing to compensate for it.

But this also means bikes here won't do the 5 second 0-100's :(
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My 'old-tech' bike also does that if the quality of fuel is low knocking starts it retards the timing to compensate for it.
Hi,
Which bike is this?

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I'm sure he's talking about his Pulsar 220. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Pulsar 220 'Fi', its also mentioned in my signature
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Another glowing review on KTM blog. This wait is killing me but looks like it will be worth it.

http://blog.ktm.com/bikes/deutsch-du...auf-extratour/
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I have been using normal fuel on my 200 for almost its entire life. Lets see.
Hi Doc,

I have been reading all your posts on D390. I have been an Enfield rider for a long time. Right now I am bikeless and have almost decided on another 500 CC RE. That's when with all these mouth watering specs, D390 entered the scene. Actually I ignored it first, because it is another plastic bike (yeah..that RE rider sarcasm) but the more I read about it, the more interested I am getting to. My questions to you as a person who owns both an Enfield and Duke are follows

1. Lots of mixed bag opinion about Duke's riding position. Is it comfortable for long rides? (means 200-250 kms in one stretch).

2. Lots of complaints about the Stiff set up of suspension. Will it create problems for your back in long rides? Will it be a bone jarring ride in broken stretches?

3. I am just a 5.8 tall guy. Even for my Size, the bike feels small when you look at it. Does it feel diminutive when you ride it? I could not take a test ride of Duke200 since Trivandrum Probike guys do not offer one.

4. The last question in my mind you have already answered. It was about the fuel quality needed for Duke. Probike guys say that one need to fill premium fuel. Not a practical idea when you hit the highway and touring.

Appreciate a response.

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Hi Santosh,

I can only speak about the Duke 200 which I own and have ridden.

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Right now I am bikeless and have almost decided on another 500 CC RE.
Why? As a point of reference, what did you ride earlier?

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That's when with all these mouth watering specs, D390 entered the scene. Actually I ignored it first, because it is another plastic bike (yeah..that RE rider sarcasm) but the more I read about it, the more interested I am getting to.
I've said this before. Barring a few, there is nothing the Bullet does (any Bullet) which the Duke 200 does not do better.

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1. Lots of mixed bag opinion about Duke's riding position. Is it comfortable for long rides? (means 200-250 kms in one stretch).
Very comfortable and stress free. You reach the destination much fresher than if you had been riding a Bullet. For taller guys, some thigh cramps do set in after around 400 odd kms, which can be taken care of by a butt break, hydration, stretching, and/or standing on the pegs or stretching the legs out on the crash guards.

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2. Lots of complaints about the Stiff set up of suspension. Will it create problems for your back in long rides? Will it be a bone jarring ride in broken stretches?
The suspension is brilliant. If anything, it is a bit on the SOFT side. There is no comparison between the suspension set up of the Duke and the Bullet. They simply belong to very diferent generations. You have to ride a Duke hard to appreciate how much we Bulleteers do with how little.

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3. I am just a 5.8 tall guy. Even for my Size, the bike feels small when you look at it. Does it feel diminutive when you ride it? I could not take a test ride of Duke200 since Trivandrum Probike guys do not offer one.
I am a 6 ft guy, and pretty big. I never found it small in any way. I am not realy bothered by how I look on it, as that is for the pleasure (or otherwise) of others. The ergos are perfect (except for the leg thing I was refering to). Of course, its a single saddle bike. No pilion. Strictly. Unless you are going to the local supermarket or bump into your wife (walking) while out for a pleasure ride (as happened this weekend to me).

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4. The last question in my mind you have already answered. It was about the fuel quality needed for Duke. Probike guys say that one need to fill premium fuel. Not a practical idea when you hit the highway and touring.
Premium fuel is 10 bucks more per liter than normal. For a tankful on the Duke, that's about 80-90 bucks etc. Does not really pinch if the fuel is available. If not, the Duke is perfectly comfortable on regular fuel. But while on tour, for a 1000 km day, the difference works out to 400 bucks extra per riding day. Most times, that is how much I spend on lodging for the night. Bears considering.

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I'm sure he's talking about his Pulsar 220. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Pulsar 220 'Fi', its also mentioned in my signature
The 'old tech' part had me confused!

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Here's a list of original accessories for the 390...

http://www.zigwheels.com/gallery/bik...ures/16176/1/2
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Here's a list of original accessories for the 390...

http://www.zigwheels.com/gallery/bik...ures/16176/1/2
The windshield is disappointing.
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The windshield is disappointing.
It does look tiny, but on tests, riders have mentioned it does its job pretty well.
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It does look tiny, but on tests, riders have mentioned it does its job pretty well.
Also, I feel, a bigger windshield may look a little disproportional on Duke.
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