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Old 26th May 2013, 18:37   #541
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Singapore Price:
KTM 200 ~ 4.65 L INR
KTM 390 ~ 5.25 L INR

That is around 13% over KTM 200. Good sign?
Thats a really good sign... Am eagerly waiting for 390 to be launched here...
Below 2L & this will sell like hot cakes
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Old 26th May 2013, 20:28   #542
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Singapore Price:
KTM 200 ~ 4.65 L INR
KTM 390 ~ 5.25 L INR

That is around 13% over KTM 200. Good sign?
Problem is - In India the pricing speculation is a premium of 50% + over the 200 price. I am sure, KTM and Bajaj will have a huge margin on the 390.

The Singapore version though has Metzeler tyres and ABS as standard on the 200 whereas in India, the 200 lacks these.

So, 133000 ex-showroom for the 200 + Metzeler tyre (+10k) + ABS (25k considering Honda charges nearly 30k more which is even higher than some cars) + 20% for the bigger engine (25k) should translate to :

133000 +10000 +25000 +25000 = 193000 193xxx roughly for the 390.

But KTM-Bajaj is expected to price @ 225k+ ex showroom. So there is such a huge margin that they expect to make.

And absolutely no competition. Ninja 300 is surely bound to suffer. And no other manufacture has plans in the near future in this segment . So the 390 will rule for a long time given its tremendous acceleration and price.
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But KTM-Bajaj is expected to price @ 225k+ ex showroom. So there is such a huge margin that they expect to make.

And absolutely no competition. Ninja 300 is surely bound to suffer. And no other manufacture has plans in the near future in this segment . So the 390 will rule for a long time given its tremendous acceleration and price.
Yes, the key word is "there is no competition". They need to price it significantly below Ninja 300 which they will and if they do that, i am sure these will sell. I have my money ready to hand over to KTM-Bajaj as long as it is under 2.5 OTR
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Singapore prices announced: http://www.ktm.com.sg/index.php

Translates to 5.25 big Indian ones!
You should keep in mind that Singapore prices include higher levels of kit and also astronomical levels of tax. Every motor vehicle is taxed like crazy in Singapore. If you think the import duties here are bad, spare a thought for the poor Singaporeans, lol.
I would expect the 390 to be priced under 3L in India.
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KTM's Duke 390 has been seen testing in Pune, the picture being posted on indianautosblog.com. The motorcycle looked like it was production ready though some of the decals were missing. The Duke 390 is likely to be launched at what promises to be an unbeatable price to performance proposition (approximately Rs 2-2.5 Lakh bracket).

KTM Duke 390 - 375cc, 45 PS, 150 kg-ktmduke390spiedinpune.jpg

The frame on the 390 is identical to that on the Duke 125 and 200. The engine took 2 years to develop the 375 cc DOHC four-valve design. It comes with forged pistons and Nikasil cylinder coating. It features aluminium rocker arms with a Diamond-Like Carbon (DLC) coating. The oil circuit is as in the RC8 superbike with 2 pumps, a pressure pump and an evacuation pump. The engine weighs only 36 Kg out of an unladen weight of 139 kg.

The Chassis components well specced too, the telescopic upside-down fork has the same 43 mm outer tube diameter as the RC8 R. The wheels are 17" cast light alloy wheels with grippy Metzeler rubber. The front brake is a beefy radially-bolted, four-piston calliper, 300 mm disc and comes with a Bosch 9M ABS. The ABS can be switched off.
The illuminated switchgear (also present on Duke 125 and 200) was installed on the special request of Bajaj says Jörg Schüler, KTM Product Manager Street (source).

KTM Duke 390 - 375cc, 45 PS, 150 kg-ehm_duke390_204.jpg

KTM Duke 390 - 375cc, 45 PS, 150 kg-bimg_1746.jpg
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I visited the KTM dealership in Chennai today, under renovation for the big launch. They gave the brochure and said launch may be 12th or 17th June (no confirmed date yet).

Gave my number to call for the test drive as soon as the bike arrives. Pricing is a strict no share from them, but can expect some pleasant surprise.

After going through the some of the reviews on net, eagerly looking for this bike or CBR 250R based on my wife's liking for the pillion, as both (ABS versions) fall around similar price points (though CBR is a bit cheaper).
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According to my friend who rides a D200, the engine heat on the legs becomes unbearable in city traffic conditions. Now with the D390 having a bigger engine, how is the cooling managed? Do they have a bigger radiator and any other components to provide a better cooling?
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According to my friend who rides a D200, the engine heat on the legs becomes unbearable in city traffic conditions. Now with the D390 having a bigger engine, how is the cooling managed? Do they have a bigger radiator and any other components to provide a better cooling?
I have never felt it unbearable in D200, the fan does not run in regular traffic. Only if ride like 10-15 mins in bumper to bumper traffic it starts for a minute or so.
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As per Motoroids, the KTM Duke 390 is expected in second week of Jun-13. They seem to claiming the scoop on basis of input from source in BAL.

Link to their report:

http://motoroids.com/news/rejoice-kt...ch-on-june-13/

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According to my friend who rides a D200, the engine heat on the legs becomes unbearable in city traffic conditions. Now with the D390 having a bigger engine, how is the cooling managed? Do they have a bigger radiator and any other components to provide a better cooling?
, I too have heard/ read complaints of D200 heating in stop-go traffic & share same concern as yours... does this effect longevity of engine?

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, I too have heard/ read complaints of D200 heating in stop-go traffic & share same concern as yours... does this effect longevity of engine?
KTM is a reputed OEM, who knows how to manage the cooling for such a engine, so there should ideally not be any effects on the longevity of the engine. The problem is that in stop-go and bumper to bumper traffic conditions, the heat radiated by the engine would be a little more than the D200 and hence the excess heat might possibly cause the discomfort on the legs while riding.
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Guys at the risk of pointing out the obvious, unlike air cooled engines, a liquid cooled engine does not have air-solid heat transfer surfaces in the form of cooling fins.

Heat transfer depends primarily on the flow of liquid and secondarily through the forced cooling via passage of air (forward movement + augmentation by fan).

So if a fan is coming on and staying on, its doing its job. Because if the fan does not come on, and your speed does not increase, your coolant temperature will tip over the maximum limit, and coolant will boil over.

ANY LC bike will run extremely hot in stop-go conditions. Try riding an inline-4 on Lakshmi Road/MG Road/FC Road at 7 p.m. ......
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According to my friend who rides a D200, the engine heat on the legs becomes unbearable in city traffic conditions. Now with the D390 having a bigger engine, how is the cooling managed? Do they have a bigger radiator and any other components to provide a better cooling?
At the offset of amg_ang hearing it from me, let me also assure him that its something that one needs to be aware of. As rahul also mentioned, its never a reason for bothering and doc, has explained it pretty neatly on why everyone needs to be aware of this technically as well.

Rest assured, be aware that you will experience this irritation and never will be a bothering. All you have to do is wait for a clear road ahead and a twist in right wrist will make you leave the heat and the rest behind!!!!!

P.S: Amg_ang, dont worry. Just keep the cash ready
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@catch_vinny: Thanks for the words of encouragement:-) was just worried about the heat as u had mentioned about it last friday. Anyways have managed to save some cash for it ;-) eagerly waiting for the launch.
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Man the Uncertainty of the launch is killing me. Why is bajaj going RE way making us desi guys wait eternally for a product manufactured in India itself. I am so desperate for wheels that I visited RE dealership in Hyderabad to check the Carb 500. Again guys there are clueless about the launch. Two completely different bikes but want to own both of them in the near future
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Man the Uncertainty of the launch is killing me. Why is bajaj going RE way making us desi guys wait eternally for a product manufactured in India itself. I am so desperate for wheels that I visited RE dealership in Hyderabad to check the Carb 500. Again guys there are clueless about the launch. Two completely different bikes but want to own both of them in the near future
Looks like at least one will be out in June.

http://motoroids.com/news/rejoice-kt...ch-on-june-13/
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