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Old 18th November 2012, 01:00   #121
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Isn't the compression ratio a bit too high for our highway/rural pump fuel quality?

KTM owners and experts, please share your thoughts.
Its highly likely the Indian version will have lower power than the 44hp EURO spec. The recommended octane for the 390 is 95.

They might load milder maps to run with Indian gas.
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Old 18th November 2012, 13:21   #122
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KTM launched a promo video for the 390:


I just can't digest the fact that it's visually exactly the same as the 200, except the varied color scheme. And KTM has explicitly mentioned "Low costs" as one of the features, which indicates competitive pricing.
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Why does it matter? And they are right. There is no other way to get this kind of pricing for this kind of performance.
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Old 18th November 2012, 19:26   #124
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editing time expired, hence subsequent post. mods, please merge. thanks!

My own concern about the KTM 390, apart from perhaps too small a size for my body size, is that we won't get the Metzeler tyres that KTM officials are saying are especially impressive for very high traction in both wet and dry conditions. We'll get MRF tyres.

I wonder if it'll be possible to get the Metzelers for the 390 in India.
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Why does it matter? And they are right. There is no other way to get this kind of pricing for this kind of performance.
touche. for about 2 lakhs, a 375 cc powerhouse with dual discs and abs is a dream come true. no other bike manufacturer comes close. this should sell like hot cakes and make our roads even scarier.
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By when is this expected in India ?

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A 200 Sticker & graphics kit on a 390 and expression of riders on CBR's and the Ninja's in the RVM when they get smoked=priceless!
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A 200 Sticker & graphics kit on a 390 and expression of riders on CBR's and the Ninja's in the RVM when they get smoked=priceless!
Why put a 200 sticker?

Its still a bike costing only slightly ( i hope) more than CBR 250R and a lot cheaper than Ninja 250 - which can truly smoke them.

Reminds me of the Renault Duster - Boys dont cry ad.
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A 200 Sticker & graphics kit on a 390 and expression of riders on CBR's and the Ninja's in the RVM when they get smoked=priceless!
Do you think they will be able to read 200 or 390 with the crazy acceleration this bike might most probably have
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Guys,

Does anybody really has any 'concrete' info on the pricing and launch schedule of this bike?

The under 2 lakh pricing is purely speculative and nobody really seems to know about the launch dates either. Some folks are talking about a Feb/March launch, while other are pinning their expectations on June/July.

Logic says that since it uses the same panels as the 200, it should not be much expensive compared to the 200 (also depends on whether we get ABS as a standard feature or option; I prefer option). Logic also suggests that since the bike displayed would also have been manufactured in India, the production one's shouldn't take much longer either. Right?
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My colleagues dad who works with Bajaj R&D informed me about the launch date somewhere in Feb-March.

One bad news though- Bajaj is still contemplating launch of Ninja 250R/300. I believe Honda announing 500 cc bikes and Duke 390 due launch, a 250/300cc at around 3.5 lacs might not sound viable.

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My colleagues dad who works with Bajaj R&D informed me about the launch date somewhere in Feb-March.

One bad news though- Bajaj is still contemplating launch of Ninja 250R/300. I believe Honda announing 500 cc bikes and Duke 390 due launch, a 250/300cc at around 3.5 lacs might not sound viable.

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Thanks! Since this seems to be be coming from a relatively reliable source, I'll take this as more than a 'educated guess'. Any info about the second and more important part of the query; the price? 1.8-2 lakhs ex showroom?

The CKD route will always make the bikes costlier than they should be. Frankly speaking, why should somebody pay 2 times the price over a CBR 250R, whereas the N250 (now N300 as well) is sold internationally at only slightly more money than CBR250R. I know that the purists will complain that the N300 is better in most aspects, and I agree. But, 2 times the price is a little too much

The real value is with Duke twins, especially the 390. Lower than its international price. And I think Bajaj knows the game as well. It will not price the bike very high knowing that the bike visually looks almost exactly same as 200.

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Its such an amateurish video. Almost bordering boring! And that typical (& uninspiring) KTM exhaust note popping in and out makes it even worse.

The bike should be pretty practical for the Indian scenario. Just the right amount of power & proper street cred.
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Size 12 boots? you gotta check out the rear brake lever on the KTM 200! bet you wouldnt be able to find it!!

If the 375 uses parts bin of the 200, then that brake lever is a PITA.

I examined a 200 at length today. I am delighted with the rear brake lever, a proper one, instead of the tractor brake typical on Indian bikes. I am also delighted that its got a proper gear shift lever (toe operated only, mounted lower than the footpeg), instead of the idiotic heel and toe crank.

And incidentally, both levers are more substantial than the ones on the various sport bikes I've owned, upto and including the ZX-12R.

i am very excited about the 390. Its going to be an incredibly fun bike, more than anything in India, short of 10 lacs. and I suspect I'll have more fun on one than I did on my Ducati 900SS or my ZX-12R.
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Harbir did you ride the bike or only examine it?

Opinion?
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