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Old 27th June 2006, 11:50   #1
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Surprisingly 125CC http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/n...article/223090
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Old 27th June 2006, 13:25   #2
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Well Bajaj had announced the Pulsar FI yesterday but seems HH has launched the bike whereas the Bajaj is going to be launched soon. I guess it's a race of who hits the markets first now.
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right move by HH ...any changes in the engine specs?????
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right move by HH ...any changes in the engine specs?????
This is what I found:
Glamour FI, based on the stylish 125cc motorcycle Glamour, has better
fuel efficiency and ease of engine start, thanks to PGM-FI. Riders can
see its high fuel efficiency by a digital real-time fuel economy
indicator. Its design is more refined, with its engine integrated with a
black color scheme and a unique FI logo.
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That was my reaction on learning that HH had launched the first Fuel injected bike in India.

Of all bikes, why the glamour? (sheesh!)
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No change in power/bhp. They arent looking at making big no sales and may dump the carb later on if teh response is good.The one with ES and Disc costs 54k.
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No change in power/bhp. They arent looking at making big no sales and may dump the carb later on if teh response is good.The one with ES and Disc costs 54k.
thats pretty high for a 125 cc bike
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hey hey is it going to be the 225 cc pulsar Fi launch . the times of india says that pulsar Fi will be launched by this weekend
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This bike may not get a good response when you get 125cc machines with more power at a very low price compared to the glamour.
What I'm waiting from the HH stable is the Karizma FI
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thats pretty high for a 125 cc bike
Yes its a bit high. Technologu comes at a price. Maybe if bikers like it better than the carb one, then we can see indigensation of teh parts to make the FI. The advantage they say of FI is the ability for teh bike to ride in top gear but in low speed without knocking, performace is different altitudes. They have also incorporated a safety device to lock teh fuel when teh bikes leans too much frm a predefined safety angle.

Lets say, bravo HH for bring us a new tech.
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No more power than usual? Thats sad, wont give a good image for FI machines...
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54k for a 125cc motorcycle, well there are people who will buy it because of the brand name and new tech factor. Other wise an overly priced machine for no significant benefit.
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HH has today "officially" launched their FI 125cc Glamour. Ya ya its a
economiser but still its the first FI bike in India going on sale.

Read below


Hero Honda reinforces technology leadership with India's first Fuel
Injection motorcycle technology

Monday, June 26, 2006


Hero Honda Glamour FI will feature Honda's first 125 cc PGM-FI Engine
(Programmed Fuel Injection)

Programmed Electronic Fuel Injection (PGM FI) for the best
drivability & lesser gear changes in traffic
Real time Mileage indicator (RTMI) for achieving optimum mileage
Bank Angle Sensor Cuts off fuel supply in case of a tip over - an
industry first safety feature
Lowest Emissions will meet even the most stringent emission norms
of the future
No carburetor less maintenance
Starts easily in all weather conditions even in very low
temperatures

New Delhi, June 26th, 2006: Hero Honda Motors Ltd., the 'World No.1'
two-wheeler company, today announced the launch of India's first Fuel
Injection technology for two-wheelers, with the 125 cc Glamour FI. The
new technology eliminates the need for a carburetor, offers the most
comfortable drive and the lowest emissions, in addition to a host of
other features, which will be available for the first time to Indian
two-wheeler riders. The Glamour FI will be launched in 2 variants
Drum Kick at Rs. 49,990/- and the fully loaded Disc Self at Rs.
53,990, ex-showroom Delhi. and will be available in 60 towns at over
180 Hero Honda dealerships throughout the country. Hero Honda plans on
extending the Fuel Injection technology to other models gradually.

Glamour FI, based on stylish 125cc motorcycle Glamour, has better fuel
efficiency and ease of engine start, due to the effect of PGM-FI.
Riders can view the digital real-time fuel economy indicator situated
at meter face, to know the bike's fuel efficiency at any given point
of time. Its design is more refined, with its engine integrated with
black color and its unique FI logo.

Speaking on this momentous occasion, Mr. Brijmohan Lall, Chairman,
Hero Honda Motors said, "The Hero Honda family is elated to have set
yet another precedent in the Indian two-wheeler industry. Fuel
Injection Technology has till now been used in cars and is being
introduced in two wheelers for the very first time in India by Hero
Honda, with the help of Honda Motor Company. This is the technology of
the future for all two-wheelers and we feel privileged to be the first
company to offer this technology in India, with the launch of the
Glamour FI."

According to Mr. Pawan Munjal, Managing Director, Hero Honda Motors,
"Today's launch reiterates Hero Honda's superior technological edge
and pedigree of bringing world class technology to India. Through the
years, we have successfully endeavored to deliver the best value
proposition to our customers and we will continue to provide them with
products that incorporate the most advanced technology, design and
fuel-efficiency".

The Glamour FI has a distinctive PGM - FI feature (Programmed Fuel
Injection) , a first in two-wheelers. This is an intelligent computer
controlled electronic fuel injection system which scans critical
engine operating conditions through sensors and provides input to the
Electronic Control Unit (ECU) to inject the accurate amount of fuel as
per the requirement. The sensors include - throttle position, engine
operating temperature, intake air temperature, manifold absolute air
pressure and crank angle.

Offers improved fuel efficiency & better emission performance
Excellent drivability owing to quick throttle response
Excellent cold starting ability (no choke operation)
Consistent engine performance at varying altitudes and ambience
temperature
Ability to run the bike at lower speeds on top gear without engine
knocking that translates into less gear changes in congested traffic
conditions.
No starting problems after long storage periods.


The RTMI takes input on distance travelled and fuel consumed from the
speed sensor and ECU and displays the average mileage for the
preceding 10 seconds.

Enables the rider to know the "Real Time Mileage"
Provides an opportunity to adjust riding style to get the optimum
mileage


The Glamour FI has a Bank Angle Sensor, an industry first feature, is
an important safety feature which cuts off the fuel supply & ignition
if the bike tips over (falls). Apart from these the motorcycle has a
FI Malfunction Indicator Lamp which diagnoses any malfunction of
sensors and indicates the same to the rider and a LCD Fuel Gauge
displays fuel level in the fuel tank which is easy to read and
contemporary. Apart from the new FI technology, Hero Honda's Glamour
also showcases new body coloured grab rail and rear view mirrors.


Source: [COLOR=#003399]http://www.herohonda.com/site/press/
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Old 29th June 2006, 23:11   #14
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THe price difference is 5500 from the carb model. That'll buy you 100 liters of petrol & pay for 6000 kms of riding.

Funny there is no mention of actual FE numbers. Even their regular ads keep harping about the 80 kmpl thing.

Problem with the 125 segment is that its neither good for FE nor power. Wrong choice to launch EFI.
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I guess the whole idea here is to make a statement that HH is capable to bring high technology bikes. They would have anticipated Bajaj onslaught with Fuel Injection. Else why have it on the existing dumb Glamour? It would have saved them previous time needed to design and develop a new bike sporting FI from scratch........

Now they can boast they were first to introduce the FI in india
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