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Old 9th June 2014, 16:19   #1
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Default The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200

"I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bull****. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free." (Dom: Fast and Furious). Replace the quarter mile with a 60 km daily ride and ten seconds with couple of hours and I have my story there, in a nutshell. While most of the guys hate long commute to office, I look forward for the commute - and do end up taking the long route most of the days.

My Unicorn was serving me faithfully but he was nearing the 90K mark and after almost 9 years of ownership, boredom was settling in and I wanted to have some fun doing the daily run - after all, that is the only time I get to be with myself. But what is fun and what bike for that fun ride? That was a question which was dogging my mind for quiet some time - only because Hero have discontinued the Impulse.

On the outset, I knew I don't want a bullet for the city grind - I have been riding bullets for almost 10 years and my garage usually have one or more bullets, but still I went and took a TD of few bullets - CL 350, STD 500, TB 350 and TB 500 (Did not try out CL 500 because I had a Desert Storm with me until few months back ). Of these bikes, TB 500 impressed me most and I did consider the bike briefly, but then I was not looking for a touring machine, but a fun commuter - so out went TB 500.

I hate plastics and plastic clad bikes, so out went R 15 and CBR Twins. I was not able to find an Impulse in any Hero showrooms, so that option was also out. Took a TD of Duke 390 and I was blown out of this world by the power delivery, but I was not sure about the off road credibility - so kept the Duke twins as an option. This was followed by a TD of Pulsar NS 200. Though the bike was good when taken alone, it was no comparison to the Duke.

When I realised that I am no longer close to choose a bike, I turned to my trusted friends and opened a thread here (Most Fun-to-Ride Bike under 2 lakh) and started devouring all the Duke threads in Team BHP and XBHP. The more I went through the threads, I was convinced that Duke can handle the occasional mud baths and gravel spins with ease.

Though there was few other recommendations (RTR 160, Karizma etc), no other bike had the character of Duke twins. So, armed with lot of expectations, went to do another TD, but this time - Duke 200 - and came out disappointed. Yes, the bike is fun and nimble and all that - but it don't explode like its big brother - the Duke 390. Then started the real battle of choice - Duke 390 vs Duke 200.

After lot of reading, discussions with friends, fellow BHPians and other few helpful souls and few more TDs later, I realised that Duke 200 is what will suit my needs better. It was sealed by this passage from one of my favourite TV show hosts - Jeremy Clarkson

"But it is also bloody scary. You know the brightest and best have worked their magic on the wiring in the traction-control system, and on the shape of the body so that it generates the right amount of downforce. But you also know that the contact patch between the tyres and the road would fit on a piece of A4 paper. That's all there is gluing you to the road. That's all there is between ending up at home. And ending up in a bag.

And that is always at the forefront of your mind when you mash your foot hard onto the throttle. Which is why, very shortly afterwards, you will take it off again. On a very wet road in Hertfordshire, the longest time I ever engaged full throttle was less than two seconds."

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I know that D 390 is much more bike than Duke 200 but as Doc (Ebono) aptly summarizes, "390 is a lot more bike. But that for bikers has never automatically translated to a lot more fun."

--Anoop

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Default Booking, Delivery and First ride home

Since BTM KTM is more or less near to my home and I was more happy with the way the sales person interacted with me, I decided to book the bike from them. They had a fresh lot available, so I got to pick my bike from 25 fresh examples. The sales guy Jayesh did a good job (explaining, giving a longer TD, coming with me to the stockyard etc). He also told me upfront that he will not be available during delivery since he will be travelling and arranged another sales rep to take care of my delivery.

I paid for the bike on Wednesday and the delivery was promised to be on Saturday morning - reached slightly before the delivery time and saw that the bike was undergoing a wash and clean session. While whiling away time, waiting for my bike, I spotted a familiar 390 (familiar in Team-BHP) and before I can count 10, I was talking to Nasirkaka - It was a pleasure meeting you.

After waiting for almost 30-40 minutes, the sales rep handed over me the owners manual, insurance and tax paid receipt and asked me to come down to the basement and before I realised, the delivery was over. No formal key hand over, no hand shakes or smiles.

After getting the bike and while doing the PDI, came across two issues:
I had asked the guys to set the rear suspension to 5 and I got assurance from 2 guys that it is set to 5, but when I checked it was set to 2. The sales rep tried to pass it to me saying it is actually 5, and I had to be a bit firm with him to get it fixed at 5.
The RPM shift light was also not set, even after reminding them twice.

No one from the showroom was even present when I took the bike from the basement (the sales rep went away while I was doing my PDI, and never returned to check if I have rode out or not) - wife put two nimbus and I rode the bike out from the basement.

The moment I rode her out, all those delivery woes where thrown into oblivion - what a pleasure it was. My kid was grinning away to glory and I was like an oaf with a big grin plastered across my face.

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Default Post delivery - first photoshoot and some trivia

Few snaps from the first photo-shoot:

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-dsc_2861.jpg

Yeah, Its my new bike.

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-dsc_2852.jpg

Let me learn the controls.

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-dsc_2858.jpg

Another angle

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-dscn2000.jpg

My two wheeler garage

Some trivia:

Chain the key:

The BTM KTM was out of KTM key chains, so I was trawling the net to find a suitable key chain for the duke before I took the delivery, but had a hard time finding something I liked on-line. It was then my wife smsed me the URL of Team BHP store and I was like Duh!, how can I forget this. She gifted me a set of LTD key chains, which came on the very same day I took delivery of my bike.

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-dsc_2856.jpg

Name Game:

What is in a name? For many, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet", but for me, choosing the name of my bikes and cars are something very intimate - it is something I love doing. My Unicorn was christened Jeevs because the bike reminded me so much of the world's best gentleman's gentleman. The bike was ever dependable and very forgiving. But D 200 and Unicorn are two poles apart - while one is calm the other is ferocious - so much so that I did not even had to hunt for a name - I christened her Lisbeth the Direwolf. (A tribute to Lisbeth from the Millennium series by Steig Larsson and Direwolves from A Song of Ice and Fire (Or better known as Game of Thrones)).

Functional Mods:

The first thing I did after parking the bike in my parking lot is to remove that ugly sari guard. The tyre hugger will be removed once the rains are over.

Took a leaf from Doc Ebono and got the knuckle guards fitted with end weights of TVS Apache. Cost - 448 INR for two end weights and the rubber bush.

One of my major gripe with Duke is the almost non existent mirrors - I could not see anything other than my biceps in them. I replaced them with a pair of mirrors from TVS Apache. Cost - 260 INR. The mirror is not an exact fit - the thread patters are different, so I unscrewed the Duke's mirror from the stem and had to shave off a bit of Apaches mirror base to fix the flange of Duke's mirror stalk.
The new mirrors are much better and I can see the traffic behind me without flexing my neck every time.

The Duke of Direwolves - Lisbeth, my KTM Duke 200-img_20140610_083508.jpg

In a nutshell:

Pros:
Looks good, goes better.
Rev it up, baby - one of the best rev happy engines out there.
Fantastic breaks
oodles of character - Duke is not for you if you like to lost in a sea of similar looking bikes out there.
Exhaust note - I love the way the exhaust sounds and cant have enough of it.

Cons:
No mechanical tacho - the digital tacho bars do not give the same feel of seeing the tacho needle race past the RPM readins. Some times, analogue is better.
Mirrors - they are a joke. Cant see anything behind me, even after adjusting them a lot. Fixed this by replacing the mirrors with that of TVS Apache.
Puny tank - be ready to be a frequent visitor to the petrol pumps.
Fit and finish - there are some rough edges like exposed wiring, uneven seating of fuel lid etc, but not a deal breaker.

Issues faced:

Mainly with the MID:

I set the time once but the clock lost couple of hours after overnight parking. Will need to set it again and have to keep a watch on it for accuracy.

Every time I switch off and switch on the bike, the display gets changed to average speed. It would have been good if the display remembered which mode was used last.

No manual way to reset the time travelled, avg mileage etc like in cars. The time travelled counter gets reset automatically if the bike is parked for an hour.

Future plans:

Horn Upgrade
Head light upgrade
Paddock stand
Tank pad \ sticker
Rim highlighter if I can find a competent guy to do it


--Anoop

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Default First Impressions - on the road and off the road.

The bike rides beautifully - be it on the road and off the road. Though I am restricting the RPMs because of the running in period, the commute have become much effortless and much more fun. The bike is eager to pull from any gear, and responds to throttle inputs instantly. It is much easy to do impromptu overtakes, but on the same way, it is easy to cross speed limits before you realize, so have to keep a check on the speed to make sure that you are not riding faster than needed. The suspension soaks up minor road imperfections but I am not so confident to take the speed breakers fast as I used to do with my Unicorn, mainly because of the bent \ cracked rim stories I have read on line.

Off the road, the bike feels planted in mud tracks, but on loose gravel, you have to be careful. I haven't got much time to test the off road prowess, but what small ride I did, she performed well. Will be taking her to some more trails soon, and will update the thread.

The headlight feels adequate when you are alone - but the moment there is serious traffic from opposite direction, you will be left wondering where the headlight did go - an upgrade is in the offing soon.

The horn is pathetic, and have to be remedied with a pair of additional horns.

The seat is firm and is an absolute delight. The most I have spent on saddle till now is about 1.15 hrs continuously and the seat is absolutely brilliant.

The seating position is different and will take some time to get used to, if you are graduating from a commuter like Unicorn. But it don't take much time to get used to it, and the bike will fit like a glove once you are familiar with the riding position.


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Congrats on the new addition!

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Issues faced:

Mainly with the MID:

I set the time once but the clock lost couple of hours after overnight parking. Will need to set it again and have to keep a watch on it for accuracy.

--Anoop
I had faced the same issue, in my case the problem was I wasn't exiting the menu properly.
After changing the time, if the screen is not exited as mentioned in the owners manual the changes doesn't get saved.

Do you have any pics of the RTR bar-ends before fitting them, if yes can you please share them?
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Congrats on the new addition!

I had faced the same issue, in my case the problem was I wasn't exiting the menu properly.
After changing the time, if the screen is not exited as mentioned in the owners manual the changes doesn't get saved.

Do you have any pics of the RTR bar-ends before fitting them, if yes can you please share them?
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I remember exiting the menu properly, but will have to try it again to make sure if there is an issue or not. Unfortunately, I did not click the pictures before the bar end weights where fixed.

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Unfortunately, I did not click the pictures before the bar end weights where fixed.
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Have been thinking of buying RTR's bar ends since some time now, now that I know it fits will check TVS SVC this weekend for availability.

Does it require any mods in the handle bar or is it the screw type one which expands the rubber bush type?
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Have been thinking of buying RTR's bar ends since some time now, now that I know it fits will check TVS SVC this weekend for availability.

Does it require any mods in the handle bar or is it the screw type one which expands the rubber bush type?
No Mods are needed - it is the rubber bush type which expands and fit.
How satisfied are you with the stock mirrors? Are you able to see traffic without any issues?

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No Mods are needed - it is the rubber bush type which expands and fit.
How satisfied are you with the stock mirrors? Are you able to see traffic without any issues?
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That's great news the bar-ends are a direct fit.
The mirrors were a issue when the bike was new. A little adjustment to the angle its much better, probably after using the bike for two years I am more used to the mirrors now.
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That's great news the bar-ends are a direct fit.
The mirrors were a issue when the bike was new. A little adjustment to the angle its much better, probably after using the bike for two years I am more used to the mirrors now.
ok, that is good to hear. I had a tough time with the mirrors even after adjusting them, so had to replace them.

While trawling the net, I came across the FMSCI homologation form of Duke 200 - not sure if it have been shared here earlier. It have got lot of technical details and can be found here.
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"I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bull****. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free." (Dom: Fast and Furious). Replace the quarter mile with a 60 km daily ride and ten seconds with couple of hours and I have my story there, in a nutshell. While most of the guys hate long commute to office, I look forward for the commute - and do end up taking the long route most of the days.

--Anoop
Nice tidy ownership review Anoop. Congratulations once again on the acquisition:-)

I was under a impression that only 390 gets the hand guards. You opted for them or does it come as stock. If yes how much did it cost?
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Nice tidy ownership review Anoop. Congratulations once again on the acquisition:-)

I was under a impression that only 390 gets the hand guards. You opted for them or does it come as stock. If yes how much did it cost?
Thank you!

The hand guards are stock on 390 - I brought them separate. IIRC, they cost me around 700 INR - sorry, I do not have the invoice with me to check the exact price.

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Congrats Anoop! Neat review. Looking at the second pic of your boy trying to hold the handles reminded me of my son trying out the bike All the best and wishing you many happy miles with the bike.
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Anoop,

Now that you have experienced a modern hassle free machine, how does it feel like to ride the bullet in comparison?

Congrats on crossing over to the dark side. Don't say you weren't warned!

PS: Another issue with the D390 is the heating, right? I've heard from folks that its great for touring but in commuting, the heat is simply too much.
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