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Old 25th February 2015, 18:53   #61
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^^ Sure, you can see multiple modified bullets around town even now. But for these fellows at Hitchcock, mods are more than skin deep. I can assure you there are a host of performance mods that this one sports, and they are not cheap

To give you an example, look up the "Ace Fireball" Enfield. That thing is mad. But just the work on the engine head alone costs £ 1000. Then come the specialist filters and the whole shebang
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^^ Sure, you can see multiple modified bullets around town even now. But for these fellows at Hitchcock, mods are more than skin deep. I can assure you there are a host of performance mods that this one sports, and they are not cheap

To give you an example, look up the "Ace Fireball" Enfield. That thing is mad. But just the work on the engine head alone costs £ 1000. Then come the specialist filters and the whole shebang
Agree with that , the engine mods though will be very difficult to get done here to a certain quality. It is likely that bike has some serious mods in it . Fireball mod is great , recall watching the video . Recently read an american tuner's high opinion on the conti-g as a good engine modding platform . Said his bike was doing 100mph+ after the work he had done to it with still some headroom left .
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That mod can be easily done here .......

Lets assume 10k for front fork and rear shockers ,...............and we are done with the mod within 25k . I will be surprised if it goes any higher and I speak from experience having extensively customized mine over a year back . 25k is a decent price imo for that form factor . Sorry forgot tires , add cost of tires too , another 5-7k I guess .

If you can get me those exact front forks and dual shocks for 10k INR I will place an order for 20 sets right away. 25K for the whole mod? I doubt you'd manage to procure just the suspension bits for that amount and I am not talking some jugaad lengthened fork or shocks here.

If you look closer you can see the whole frame is different. So its not just some bolt-on mod/chop job. You'd have to first build a Jig in order to build a frame. And thats just the beginning.

That Handle-bar alone would cost about 12-15kINR. And you are left with 10k for the rest of the mods...Good luck with that

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If you can get me those exact front forks and dual shocks for 10k INR I will place an order for 20 sets right away. 25K for the whole mod? I doubt you'd manage to procure just the suspension bits for that amount and I am not talking some jugaad lengthened fork or shocks here.

If you look closer you can see the whole frame is different. So its not just some bolt-on mod/chop job. You'd have to first build a Jig in order to build a frame. And thats just the beginning.
My assumption on suspension prices is based on the usual rate for the enfields , I was quoted 7k for front forks in december 2013 . Of course there is no upper limit here , one can get imported ohlins etc assuming they fit . Delhi vendors do stock suspensions which you find close to that rate , quality they say is same as stock . It is of course possible this custom bike has higher end shockers but that is open to assumption .

Frame is completely different though , bad observation from me to assume it as the continental gt frame which it clearly is not .

If one wishes , one can spend even 20k on the handle bar with just 10k on the grips. There is no limit when it comes to aftermarket items and I am aware of that , at the same time one can also purchase a similar handle bar for a fraction of the cost and end up with a visually similar even if not functionally similar bike within a modest budget . Even tires you can get CEAT for 4k a piece or some high end pirelli normally found on an exotic offroader for much higher sum .

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My assumption on suspension prices is based on the usual rate for the enfields I was quoted 7k for front forks in december 2013 . Of course there is no upper limit here.............................. for 4k a piece or some high end pirelli normally found on an exotic offroader for much higher sum .
Agreed. If one is simply attempting to imitate the "look" of the hitchcock 612 scrambler you could do it for a lot less.

But to perform like one is inevitably going to take a lot of moolah. Those shocks look like Hagons or Works Performance...or may be some British make. But something is unusual with those front forks cos the lower legs seem to be stock and the upper legs are defenitely different (read taller). I am sure they have some trick kit in there as I have seen a few vids on utoob of the bike being thrashed in a vintage style MX race. Add to that a lot of CNCed billet aluminium, Hithchcocks own 612 kit (ofcourse it costs HIM nothing) and the costs spiral up.

These guys are a step above customizers. They actually field test their mods and then put it up for sale.

Found a piece on their scrambler. Link: http://www.hitchcocksmotorcycles.com...ill_Climb_2012

The frame is actually based on another RE, A Crusader 250 slightly modified to match the cast iron 500 block and guess what? These frames are also on sale too...Yippiee! Hmm....Oh no, what have I got myself into
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After taking a sneak first pic of the Peugeots on the Expressway a few years ago, I remain sad that they did not come to India commercially. Now I hope that does not apply to the first new chassis from RE in years.

This appears to be the new Himalayan- carried forward from the Cafe Racer, but with a complete new frame that doesn't seem to use the engine as a stressed member.

Is this the first Pic.

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If it has the same parts and the engine from the Conti, it will make a good tourer.

I always wanted the Thunderbird to have the 535 engine with a 6 speed gearbox, I guess this is a good alternative.
On the design part, I wish they had done a better job since this looks just like a Conti that was altered at a good garage.
Now we have to wait and watch if RE will launch it as is in the picture or a little more polished version.
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On the design, well, yes, I have few comments- but what is a firm departure from the usual 'push-em-and-flush-em' products from RE- this new chassis is something that would be worth waiting for.
I have been with the RE Team on the Himalayan Odyssey, and I remain amused that all their Officers/Staff were riding bikes with stock engines and after market parts- a few things that seemed to be common were imported riding gear, supertrapp exhausts, and imported handlebars, imported rims for spokes- which made me wonder if 5 of out 7 staffers had these, then why arent they tying up with these brands- and selling them thru the stores.
We are talking a few premium products.. good margins... feel good factor.
But I think that will take me a whole other post.
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On the design part, I wish they had done a better job since this looks just like a Conti that was altered at a good garage.
Agree completely. More a scrambler than an adventure. And the seat is way too short in the obvious interest of controlling the overhang of the carrier.

Also, stock front suspension and same sized wheels seem to be in the obvious interest of keeping the cost down by parts bin sharing.

The tank is nice, but like all new RE tanks a bit on the "pregnant cow" side.

I can't make out what tyres and handle the bike has. Two important factors for a bike like this. As well as the exhaust. Also, for a bike that's called Himalayan as an indicator of where its going to see primary duty, RE missed out on giving it proper side boxes like the old bikes, instead of these dummy panels. Extreme utility. Also, that front mudguard is protecting nothing, and is so close to the tyre that there is serious potential of mud jamming issues in deep sticky slush. Needs to have way more clearance.

Overall though, it looks very nice and a much more "real world" alternative than the cafe racer.

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Wowee, I like the classic 80s look of this. Though I agree with ebonho's remark about pregnant cow tank.
535 engine?
What are the whereabouts of the price?
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Nice!! for a moment I thought this is a model from RE's history that everyone forgot about.

Only the tank is a bit odd-shaped, a more Trimuph-style or Guzzi-style or even Yezdi-style tank would make this just perfect.

Now I hope our buying audience understands the difference between "classic look" and "outdated look". I would totally buy this despite the tank. I mean we can get someone to make a custom tank, right?

So bored with the regular "Bullet" design that's been beaten to death. I hope RE comes up with something new and classy. Take a cue from the CB1100 / Bonneville.
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Thanks to Ysak M, for the pix from Goa-
Two engine capacities being tested- 385 and 620cc...

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Had posted about these 3 bikes a few weeks ago. They are different iterations of the Continental GT that were shown at Rider Mania. I doubt RE would have shown the real Himalayan at Rider Mania. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...ml#post3651508

Indicruz posted a pic of the same bike in Ooty http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...malayan-2.html
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I am guessing the 'Himalayan' would look something like this itself if RE had displayed it in Rider Mania.

I remember the Conti being tested before launch and pictures of it posted on the net and looked just as it is now.

What I don't understand is why 2 different sized engines. The 620cc would make a whole lot of sense on this adventure model , but then again pricing needs to be spot on for people like me to think about it .

The 380cc is what I cannot wrap my mind around. Which model will that go into? Is it like how at present all the models excluding the GT are sold with 350 and 500 cc engines and so the Adventure will get a 380 and 620 cc?
Or is it that the 350cc is going to be removed off the portfolio and replaced with the 380cc?
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I am guessing the 'Himalayan' would look something like this itself if RE had displayed it in Rider Mania.
Now, even I think the same, It can be more of a scrambler model rather than a full blown adventure tourer. This would mean more parts to reuse from the bin!

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Or is it that the 350cc is going to be removed off the portfolio and replaced with the 380cc?
I think this could be it. Since RE is quite adamant on its 90mm Stroke, this could be a bored out 350. Hopefully with an OHC!

Re having 350,380, 500, 535 and 620 as engine option across models is a bit hard for me to digest. Even the current three engine options are a bit too much for our beloved mechanics to comprehend!
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