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Old 12th March 2015, 14:44   #76
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RE could and should try to peak its single cylindered thumper lineup at 650 cc like most of the Japs, with KTM having pushed the envelope further to 690 cc. I don't get this 620 cc thing. Its not like block wall thickness will be a constraint in boring it out, because the current block can max out to 535 cc before the wall becomes too thin. So it obviously not going to be the same block, or its going to be a different stroke. Either way, its a more involved change than simply boring out an engine with bigger valves. So why not make a proper 650 in that case when the machining, tooling, and extra effort is anyways going to be done? If they match the pretty relaxed performance specs of the Jap 650 singles (a little over 40 bhp as I recall for the KLR 650), then they have the makings of a really good offering for adventure riders, who don't want speed but toughness.

As can be seen by the difference betwen the RE 500s and the RE 535s, a small bumpof 30 odd cc can make a significant difference.

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Also, that front mudguard is protecting nothing
http://fendaextenda.com - virtually every bike needs them.

Looks like a motorcycle. Hope it goes like one too.
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So why not make a proper 650 in that case when the machining, tooling, and extra effort is anyways going to be done? If they match the pretty relaxed performance specs of the Jap 650 singles (a little over 40 bhp as I recall for the KLR 650), then they have the makings of a really good offering for adventure riders, who don't want speed but toughness.
Ugh.. Doc, we are still talking about Royal Enfield right?
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http://fendaextenda.com - virtually every bike needs them.

Looks like a motorcycle. Hope it goes like one too.
My point was more to do with how close it fits to the tyres. With button tyres, and sticky mud, and slow speed, you pick up huge gobs of mud, whcih then go undr the mudguard and finally jam your wheel solid. So that you have to then actualy remove your mudguard to get moving again.
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Going from a 70mm to a 74mm piston on the 350 platform is quite easy.
2mm off the wall thickness is easily doable I beleive - so 385 cc is a low hanging fruit. All they have to do is cast new pistons and bore out the cylinders.

Going from 87mm piston to 94mm on the 535 platform to get 620cc needs work on the crankcase and will need totally new barrels.

I don't think increasing the stroke length is practical on a 535. The vibration and stress will increase exponentially - Anyone who has long stroked 612 and 624cc cast iron bullets knows this.

So What I think is that probably the 600 or 620 is a rumor, but the 385cc mill on a scrambler like chassis, if they can reduce perhaps 10KG from the bike, will make for a great competitor to Impulses and Kimpulses.
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As I have mentioned before RE should now consider bringing in a overhead camshaft engine on this rumoured motorcycle. Honestly I dont care about the cc increment but the engine characteristic which RE should concentrate on. Although this is intended to be an adventure tourer it looks more like a scrambler to me hence speed does not really matter. But RE can make it a dual purpose bike for mild offroading as well as regular riding. I think they can offer accessories and kits to convert it from a regular riding motorcycle to an offroading motorycycle. There is big money to be made in this section and there are riders whom I know who will readily spend on those kits. And yes RE should now also look on how to put their motorcycles on diet while still retaining their rugged build.
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Trademark search results
Wordmark: ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN
Proprietor: EICHER MOTORS LIMITED
Application Number: 2822427
Class / Classes: 18
Status: Formalities Chk Pass
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The Royal Enfield Himalayan, now launched!-1.jpg

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Wordmark: ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN
Proprietor: EICHER MOTORS LIMITED
Application Number: 2822427
Class / Classes: 18
Status: Formalities Chk Pass
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Errrm... So 'Himalayan' is their trademark for their range of Apparel??!!

HAHAHAHA....We've been taken for a royal ride.
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Errrm... So 'Himalayan' is their trademark for their range of Apparel??!!

HAHAHAHA....We've been taken for a royal ride.
Probably. But I am quite sure that RE has lined up a new model to be introduced soon and for me at least, the machine is significant than the name.
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Errrm... So 'Himalayan' is their trademark for their range of Apparel??!!

HAHAHAHA....We've been taken for a royal ride.
Not really. The thing with Trademarks is, you can register them in multiple categories.

Here's the Himalayan registration for Motorbikes etc. in Class 12:
The Royal Enfield Himalayan, now launched!-untitled.png
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I am not sure, how true is it.
I know the local Royal enfield dealer personally, and was with his whole team yesterday(One ride) ,they had the news;
Himalayan is a 410CC motor cycle, and is expected in this quarter, or latest by next.
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I am not sure, how true is it.
I know the local Royal enfield dealer personally, and was with his whole team yesterday(One ride) ,they had the news;
Himalayan is a 410CC motor cycle, and is expected in this quarter, or latest by next.
A twin 410 or a single ? What did he say ?
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A twin 410 or a single ? What did he say ?
410 is a Single.
They were mentioning about a Twin Under Development as well,
but they were not sure about Twin's launch date and all.
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The 410 apparently comes from the same engine block, meaning- one cylinder.
I just hope they have reduced the over-square engine specs to allow a higher revving bike and the better power band... And while you are praying, you hope its a 6-speed as well.
As mentioned earlier, it seems that the kawasaki Versys is the design 'father' for this bike. So in the absence of any pic... thats the best going rumor.
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Earlier this year, rumours emerged of Royal Enfield trademarking the name Himalayan. While the Chennai based motorcycle maker has not confirmed any plans for the new model, a mystery test mule has been spotted in Gummidipoondi, Chennai. If the source is to be believed, this could be the very first spy shot of the Royal Enfield Himalayan.

Link to Team-BHP news article

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