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Old 1st October 2015, 12:20   #31
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PAPS@900Kms. Realized my bro had done 900kms today. 100 more to go into a point of no return to three digit figures.

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The ride quality has become very smooth.
This can be observed by the reduction in vibrations. The mirrors seem to shake less.
No leakage observed till now.
deceleration at 1st and second gears are very high. First goes upto 20kmph. if i take my hand off, the bike decelerates quickly to stand still.
Second goes upto 40 without revving the engine too much. Deceleration is quick here too.
3rd and 4th are smooth and deceleration is linear with time. Gives ample idle running even when the throttle is disengaged.
Does anyone know the reason for this behaviour in 1st and 2nd gear? is it the vehicle weight with ground friction compared to engine speed?

Ergonomics:
no change at all. Still excellent for long trips on winding roads.

FE:
have not filled the third fuel lot yet after my previous post. shall update when i hit reserve.

Neutral Engima uncovered:
found a new trick. If unable to find N at 0 ground speed (eg. waiting in a signal or dead stop at a parking lot), turn of the engine switch. Disengage the clutch. Re-engage the clutch and try bringing the vehicle to N. It immediately sits on N comfortably. Tried this alteast 15 times till now and it has worked everytime.

It has been raining here every evening. Any precautions to be taken for the vehicle ? Have been wiping paps dry after every run in the rain.
Please let me know other good suggestions.
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It has been raining here every evening. Any precautions to be taken for the vehicle ? Have been wiping paps dry after every run in the rain.
Please let me know other good suggestions.
I recently found a solution for this problem, thanks to Dodge_Viper for his expert opinion:

There are couple of ways to do it:
1. Use elastic plastic switch covers to protect your switches, but however major draw back of this is that, water may seep in through the cover and switch may get damaged. Make sure gaps are properly covered with sticky tapes.
2. Another way is to use WD40, its a water-displacing spray, I feel this is the best option. But please go through the Do's and Don'ts before using it.

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Old 1st October 2015, 13:05   #33
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PAPS@900Kms. Realized my bro had done 900kms today. 100 more to go into a point of no return to three digit figures.

Neutral Engima uncovered:
found a new trick. If unable to find N at 0 ground speed (eg. waiting in a signal or dead stop at a parking lot), turn of the engine switch. Disengage the clutch. Re-engage the clutch and try bringing the vehicle to N. It immediately sits on N comfortably. Tried this alteast 15 times till now and it has worked everytime.

It has been raining here every evening. Any precautions to be taken for the vehicle ? Have been wiping paps dry after every run in the rain.
Please let me know other good suggestions.
Wishing you loads of ridding happiness. By the way are you going to Goa, for this year's Rider Mania?

Thank you for "Finding Neutral"! I will try this once my Amun-Ra is back on its wheels.

If you ride daily in rains, then if possible, do the following. Before you call it a day, wash your bike with running water to wash off all the dirt and muck and then dry your bike with a clean piece of cloth. But this will put scratches on the body. If you are staying in a well ventilated space then just keep PAPS uncovered so that water series off. But please make sure you do not have water dripping on PAPS. On your week ends, do a thorough cleanup, making sure that you dry the parts after washing, like spokes, handle, mirrors etc.

If you have parked your bike, then make sure that PAPS is well covered but not humid inside. But before parking for long periods please make sure that bike is thoroughly cleaned and polished. Once in a week, do remove the cover for visual entertainment and inspection.

It's better to have your bike polished before rains as doing that water does not seat on the surface but just glides down. Any good quality wax polish should serve the purpose well.

Best regards.
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Old 1st October 2015, 14:10   #34
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I recently found a solution for this problem, thanks to Dodge_Viper for his expert opinion:

There are couple of ways to do it:
1. Use elastic plastic switch covers to protect your switches, but however major draw back of this is that, water may seep in through the cover and switch may get damaged. Make sure gaps are properly covered with sticky tapes.
2. Another way is to use WD40, its a water-displacing spray, I feel this is the best option. But please go through the Do's and Don'ts before using it.

Regards,
-Badri
Thanks Badri. i tried the "showercap" solution. It works at best for 3-4 days. Then it actually makes it worse by collecting dirt/muck around the edges

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Wishing you loads of ridding happiness. By the way are you going to Goa, for this year's Rider Mania?

Thank you for "Finding Neutral"! I will try this once my Amun-Ra is back on its wheels.
Thanks dada for your best wishes and tips.

Am still thinking about the Goa trip. Its a long drive from my place to Goa. Are you planning to be there?

What polish do you use?
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Old 1st October 2015, 14:28   #35
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Thanks dada for your best wishes and tips.

Am still thinking about the Goa trip. Its a long drive from my place to Goa. Are you planning to be there?

What polish do you use?
Thank you Anand but I cannot go this time. My group is going though. Family priorities this time. But I can assure you loads of happiness there. It's those few days when one gets to enjoy the days to the fullest. If you are there then you will definitely meet my mad Rider buddies too . I am sure the company would be worth cherishing.

I do not remember the polish name, as its just a yellow bottle. If you want for good names, then please refer the Royal Enfield Queries section. Am sure someone would have updated there.

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You know what - i went to a spares shop in Gandhipuram (Lachchu RE spares) asking for rearview mirrors and especially Avenger ones. The guy bluntly refused. He said, RE is RE. we should not replace with Bajaj parts.
Mate no offense to the guy who refused to sell you the Avenger mirrors by just giving a silly reason that it is from Bajaj, maybe he is not aware of how good the rectangular RVM from the Bajaj Avenger is(BTW Bajaj Avenger is based on Kawasaki Eliminator cruiser bike). I have been using avenger mirrors on one of my CI Bullet 350 since 2010 and vouch by both the quality and functionality of these mirrors. They are definitely better than the OEM RE chrome round mirrors.
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Deceleration at 1st and second gears are very high. First goes upto 20kmph. if i take my hand off, the bike decelerates quickly to stand still.
Second goes upto 40 without revving the engine too much. Deceleration is quick here too.
3rd and 4th are smooth and deceleration is linear with time. Gives ample idle running even when the throttle is disengaged.
Does anyone know the reason for this behaviour in 1st and 2nd gear? is it the vehicle weight with ground friction compared to engine speed?
The deceleration in 1st and 2nd gear is all but natural as the first two gears are bigger whereas the last three gears are smaller. Add to this the inertia of the crankshaft which is turning slow while in first two gears. But from what I know a motorcycle should not come to a standstill while deceleration unless the brakes are applied or if one is on an incline. Maybe since your motorcycle is new the engine parts are still grinding and clearing themselves. According to me the run in of an RE motorcycle especially UCE should be carried out till 3000 kms for the engine parts to set in.

I would still advise you to check your carb setting for this sudden deceleration that is so strong that it stops the bike.(This doesn't happen on my Tbird500 as it powered by EFi system. The bike keeps running with little or no throttle input while in first or second gear) Also get your chain checked, if it is over tight get it rectified to adjusting it to correct slackness.

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I tried the "showercap" solution. It works at best for 3-4 days. Then it actually makes it worse by collecting dirt/muck around the edge.
Mate DO NOT use those plastic switch covers as they will do more harm than good. They trap moisture and heat which deteriorates the operational life of the switches. Electrical problems will wreak havoc on an RE motorcycle once it starts creeping in. I have never seen our foreign RE riders covering their switches or Instrument Cluster(incase of Tbird) with a plastic cover. I remember one of my friend who bought these crap covers for covering the switches of his then brand new Tbird350 in 2010. He ended up changing the entire switch assembly due to electrical problems associated due to water trapping and moisture thanks to those switch covers. If you have an open parking a good quality body cover would do the job. About polishing any good quality wax polish(paint) and powder polish(chrome parts) will be good.

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It has been raining here every evening. Any precautions to be taken for the vehicle ? Have been wiping paps dry after every run in the rain.
Please let me know other good suggestions.
I have been using WD40 in my bike(KTM200) regularly(every 2-3 months) for the switchgear. Otherwise the switchgear starts mulfunctioning, the engine off switch(just touch the top portion kills the engine) and turn indicator(does not cancel out with one push and have to do multiple times). This happens mostly after pressure wash of the bike or heavy rains. These days i have stopped taking the bike in the rains so havent faced the issue in last 6 months but still every 2-3 months i do use the WD40.
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I have been using WD40 in my bike(KTM200) regularly(every 2-3 months) for the switchgear.
The problem that I have seen here is unavailability of the same. They have something else but WD40 is never found .
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The problem that I have seen here is unavailability of the same. They have something else but WD40 is never found .
WD40 should be available in hardware stores, or you can also order online.

http://www.amazon.in/WD-40-400TC0313...ds=wd+40+spray
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Mate no offense to the guy who refused to sell you the Avenger mirrors by just giving a silly reason that it is from Bajaj, maybe he is not aware of how good the rectangular RVM from the Bajaj Avenger is(BTW Bajaj Avenger is based on Kawasaki Eliminator cruiser bike). I have been using avenger mirrors on one of my CI Bullet 350 since 2010 and vouch by both the quality and functionality of these mirrors. They are definitely better than the OEM RE chrome round mirrors.
Hey Navin, by any chance have you posted a pic with these RVMs in any threads? I want to take a look, if not can you please share it?
I searched it in google, but couldn't find a RE with this RVM.

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I do not remember the polish name, as its just a yellow bottle. If you want for good names, then please refer the Royal Enfield Queries section. Am sure someone would have updated there.
Am currently using a concocted mixture that seems to be working ok.
30ml of kerosene
70ml of coconut oil
one pinch of vaseline
This works fine as the coconut oil gives shine, keeps the rain away, while the kerosene prevents rust. Vaseline is for the amalgamation.

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Mate no offense to the guy who refused to sell you the Avenger mirrors by just giving a silly reason that it is from Bajaj, maybe he is not aware of how good the rectangular RVM from the Bajaj Avenger is

Mate DO NOT use those plastic switch covers as they will do more harm than good. They trap moisture and heat which deteriorates the operational life of the switches.
can you please share a pic of the TBTS with the Bajaj avenger mirrors ?

Thanks for your advise. i too observed moisture getting trapped and removed those "shower caps".

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Hey Navin, by any chance have you posted a pic with these RVMs in any threads? I want to take a look, if not can you please share it?
same request from me too
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I have been using WD40 in my bike(KTM200) regularly(every 2-3 months) for the switchgear
Thanks RahulKool. had read some threads where the WD40 can sometimes cause increased friction. For eg. someone had sprayed near the disc brakes and they started observing a creaking sound. have you encountered any of these side-effects?

Paps reached the point of no return on Gandhi Jayanthi. He covered a 1000 kms.
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Next fuel filling happend as well: here are the figures.
Starting reading - 742 Kms
End odo reading - 1012 kms
Fuel that was filled for @742 worth Rs.500 = 8.1 ltrs
FE for the last driving cycle - 33.3 kmpl

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Hey Navin, by any chance have you posted a pic with these RVMs in any threads? I want to take a look, if not can you please share it?
I searched it in google, but couldn't find a RE with this RVM.

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can you please share a pic of the TBTS with the Bajaj avenger mirrors ?
Guys,please refer to post #10 I have posted a pic of my bike.Posting couple of pics more.
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Full_Minchingu and FuelInjector mate you can find the pic of Avenger mirrors on my 1996 Standard Bullet on my thread namely, "Undying hunger my fifth Royal Enfield Thunderbird 500". Post no.14.

FuelInjector my Tbird500 is fitted with the OEM mirrors from the factory. I haven't changed it as they are better than those round chrome mirrors fitted on CL and Bullet 500 models.
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Guys,please refer to post #10 I have posted a pic of my bike.Posting couple of pics more.
The reach of the avenger mirrors looks almost same like the stock mirrors, do you feel any improvement in the vibrations and rear visibility?
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Full_Minchingu and FuelInjector mate you can find the pic of Avenger mirrors on my 1996 Standard Bullet on my thread namely, "Undying hunger my fifth Royal Enfield Thunderbird 500". Post no.14.
thanks. went through the post and pics. How is the wide angle reach of this mirror?Do your arms obstruct the rearside view?

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Guys,please refer to post #10 I have posted a pic of my bike.Posting couple of pics more.
Rakesh_r - love your machine (have said it before too ). Its just me, but the aspect imprint (from the front) of headlight and mirrors are different. The headlight is circular while the rearview mirrors are rectangular. However, the machine still looks wonderful.
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