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Old 21st September 2016, 13:38   #121
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Default Re: Yamaha YZF-R3 : Detailed Ownership Review

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious View Post
If you have driven the CBR 250, could you post your inputs against the R3 please? I understand both are in different segments, but from a tourer perspective.
Glad you liked the review !!

Sorry for the late reply. Somehow missed this one. CBR 250 is a truly value for money bike. I have ridden the 250R and it's a great bike for touring. The engine is smooth and reliable. Handling for touring is good enough. That said, what you will miss is the fun factor. It's too well behaved and that might put you off very soon.

By the way, just to add to your confusion and I apologize for that, there are strong rumors of the MT-03 being launched soon. Not sure how true but if they do come, do not be shy to put it on top of your list

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Old 10th October 2016, 00:03   #122
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Default One Year !!

It's been just about a year and the over all experience has been quite good. There has been niggles here and there but most of it can be sorted or attended to.

What I still like

- Engine : Smooth and absolutely love the linear acceleration.
- Handling : It's an excellent tourer and handles like a charm.
- Looks and Sound : Although perspective, I absolutely love it.

What I don't like

- Tyres : Thankfully I changed to Rosso IIs very soon else I pity riders who are living with those MRFs as a punishment from Yamaha
- Small Niggles : There are issues in the switch gear and in my one of a case, the petrol tank leaked. Both were attended to but would have appreciated without these in a bike of this cost.

Yamaha has the right intentions to understand the customers and take their feedback but what goes wrong, as I now understand, is the execution. On completion of one year, Yamaha India called in few R3 owners for feedback. They were called in swanky hotels with representatives from Yamaha who I feel were not qualified to do the job. Why do I feel so ?

I was one of them who went for the feedback session. I tried explaining them how bad the tyres are only to hear that it could be a perception. I told them that the tyres don't provide proper feedback and has a floating feeling to which I was told that they will drive next to me while I ride with a video cam to see how the bike floats. That's when I lost it and realized that although the intention is right, the execution is as bad as it could get. I pity Yamaha India to spend so much in such exercises and finally send such people. Anyway, I did not want to waste neither mine or their time and hence walked off

Having Yamaha close to my heart, I went back and reached out to about 100 R3 owners to help us fill up a google form with proper feedback. The results were as expected. The results were shared only after the exercise was over to avoid being biased. A final presentation was made and then shared with the top responsible gentlemen in Yamaha hoping for an action. It's been months and we have not heard from them although we are hoping that someone is working on it.

Here goes the extract from the presentation. The complete presentation has more details.

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We have this voice for every other section too.

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We had overall more slides, but this is just an extract. The intention was simple. Here is the genuine feedback. It's up to you now what you want to do with it.

Now coming to the most common issues reported.

1. Bike Swaying/Grip/Cornering issues etc.

Solution : Change the tyre. While I moved to the Stock Size Pirelli Diablo Rosso II, fellow riders have opted for Michelins and are happy too. Lots of handling issues are sorted with this change. I can, without any inhibition say, that an R3 owner "Actually" starts riding his bike only after he changes the tyre. A must recommended change.

2. Engine cutting out with Error 19.

Solution :

a) Check the cables connecting the ECU.
b) Clean the switch gear to kill the engine. Does not resolve, change it.
c) Check the side stand sensor. In India it is disabled although connectivity issues can lead to this.

There is no other noticeable issue reported and that makes me think that Yamaha has made an almost perfect 300 cc bike and attending to these small niggles, there is no talking about which one is the best in the lot, then why ignore when they can be easily attended to. I could not find an answer which could satisfy me.

Anyway, I hope this post helps existing R3 owners to attend to these small issues with major impact and enjoy their bikes to the core !! We continue to ride and next month R3 owners from various parts of India are meeting in Goa. If you are an R3 owner and wish to join, please PM me and we will plan it up.

Would I recommend the Yamaha R3 to my friend after experiencing it for a year. Absolutely Yes !
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Default One Year Update

So what's my bike up to after a year !

Bike is running smooth and happy. It's not seeing a lot of miles but it's managed to clock about 500 kms every month at an average. The bike does not see the congested traffic lanes but has been breathing free in long rides only.

I made certain changes to enhance the experience.

1. Custom 2015 M1 Graphics : This was done by two brothers in Bangalore who have started their own initiative called Wrapcraft. I was amazed by their passion what they put in and hence thought of "Trying" them up and they did not fail to absolutely impress me.

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2. Tyres : Changed to Pirelli Diablo Rosso II. This was the best upgrade in my bike. It feels like it was meant for this bike. Thankfully I changed the tyres quite soon else I would have regretted waiting for long before changing it. I would HIGHLY recommend this upgrade.

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3. Spiegler Brake Lines : The brakes of the Yamaha R3 are anyway quite good. I am talking about the front. The rear is hardly used. Braking adds up a lot when it comes to complete experience of handling and hence I thought of making it better. Hence the Spieglers. I changed both the front and rear lines. To make it complete, I plan to upgrade to better brake pads in the future. The come with custom colors with configurable colors for the lines as well as the connectors. Do you need this, not really. Only if you want to get the best out of the bike.

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Front Lines

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Rear Lines

4. Radiator and Header Guard : I always find that big gap in front of the header and radiator gap susceptible to damage and finally I found an answer to it. Evotech Radiator and Header Guard. I would not call it an absolute requirement but it sure can add some peace of mind.

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5. Shorty Levers : The levers provide in stock as per me are very long and hence a little inconvenient. This one I moved to is shorter and is adjustable in various means to suit your best position. I am guilty to have bought it from AliExpress (Made in China) but to my defense, it was way before this pseudo boycott of products that's prevalent now. If you are not happy with the regular levers, I would recommend this change.

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6. Bar Ends : There is a bit of vibration at the handles and my thought to change was to add more weight and resolve this issue. This is again another AliExpress order although it turns out to be more cosmetic than anything else. Looks good, quality seems good although I think it weighs almost similar to the stock one. If you got for this, it will be more cosmetic than anything else.

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7. Air Filter : I changed the Air filter for the only reason of ease of maintenance. Open it, clean it, put it back and it's ready for another 10k kms. To top that, the filtering capability is better in these. I changed to the BMC stock replacement filter hence I was not expecting any improvement in performance. If you are a little hands on guy, I will recommend it for ease of use.

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8. Slime for the tyre : This is the first time I used a slime in my bike cause these tyres are soft and have a tendency to invite nails. My presumption. Not sure if it is a coincidence but my rear tyre after the slime treatment encountered two nails and all I had to do was remove it, and rotate the tyre and continue riding. Yes again a solution for peace of mind. A highly recommended product.

9. Prototype LED : This one is interesting. This is not on my bike currently but has been used for testing. A close friend of mine and I are looking towards a premium LED setup for the bike which can be a stock replacement without any wiring changes. We are done with the first round of testing although a lot more needs to be tested before we roll it out to the world market.

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The one in the picture is at around 5000 Kelvin although the final one will be reduced to 4300 Kelvin. The stock light is not bad but this takes it to the other level.

What is pending

1. Better Brake Pads.
2. Double Bubble Visor from Zero Gravity
3. Iridium Spark Plugs

And I think I will keep the rest just as it is with the exception of changing the stock recommended Engine oil to Motul 7100 and the coolant to Engine Ice. For maintaining of the chain, I would recommend Motul or 3M Chain cleaner and Yamaha Dry Lube of lubing it. A little expensive but works wonders.

Servicing has been usually good as I have been servicing with Bangalore Wheels. I have thankfully not faced any issues as such.

Well, that's for now and I think not much is going to change for long
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