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Old 15th November 2015, 12:55   #16
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Though it is shocking, this does not seem to be the only problem with Mahindra. The first ride reports of the Mojo from reputed publication houses lauded the bike for its touring capabilities. However, that was not the same impression that I got from a test ride. The brakes felt spongy, the rear suspension was as bouncy as the KTMs and the engine's mid range performance was not as impressive as it was claimed to be. The only positives according to me were the grippy Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2 tires and the relaxed riding posture. I wonder if this could be due the fact that the bikes for the media rides might have been at a different state of tune or that the bike that I rode must not have been maintained as it should have.

It would do Mahindra great good if they spend their time working on improving their products instead of pursuing such marketing gimmicks. Being the only Indian manufacturer at Moto3, I expected a lot more from them.

P.S. I fail to understand the logic behind the Pirelli's on a tourer. How do they expect riders to spend close to 24 k on tires every 6000 kms for a tourer?
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Old 15th November 2015, 13:14   #17
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P.S. I fail to understand the logic behind the Pirelli's on a tourer. How do they expect riders to spend close to 24 k on tires every 6000 kms for a tourer?
The tyres would last upto 20k KMs and replacement tyres would cost only about 11-12k (both front and rear), if taken from Mahindra, as told by my SA.

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Good on Motorbeam for making noise about thsee fake reviews. It's a surprise that this news comes out this late and I suspect that such astroturfing is quite rampant. The Internet is rife with shady firms offering thousands of Facebook likes, positive ebay reviews for a price. Online reviews are a mucky place where the genuine opinions are a rare find. In a more sentient desh, such things would be considered a crime.
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A Mahindra Gusto with Ride of a German car?

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Shameful act by Mahindra marketing team, I always had an impression that they are one among few companies in India who do not compromise on ethics.
Has this been reported to Anand Mahindra & what was his response?
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A Mahindra Gusto with Ride of a German car?
hahaha, that would be me in the video. I had tested the Gusto during the media ride in Rajasthan before the launch. As expected, the video has been compiled to focus on the positives. Don't take my comment on "German ride quality" so literally. I simply meant the ride quality is very impressive (still say so) and the Gusto brings that particular German car like trait to the segment. Anyone who has spent a decent amount of time with the Gusto will get what I'm trying to say.

That being said, let's not take away from what is still a well rounded product thanks to a bad move on the promotional front. For a company that invested so much in research, you'd think they'd know better.

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The tyres would last upto 20k KMs and replacement tyres would cost only about 11-12k (both front and rear), if taken from Mahindra, as told by my SA.


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Appologies for heading off topic. I don't want to alarm you, but my second set of tires for the 390 were Pirelli Diablo Rossi 2 and they lasted me around 7000 kms of city commuting.


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What are the chances that they will sell those to KTM 390 owners considering the specs are similar!

Are you sure those tyres will last for so long and will be priced so cheap because they seem to retail in open market at around 20k a pair at minimum.

Just to clear the doubt... The Pirelli Diablo Rosso II will last normally up to 10000 kms or 15000 kms if driven with utmost care.

One of the CUFT rider used them almost 16000 kms all across the country in different terrains and after that the bike still had some grip thanks to the sticky rubber. But surely they were not 100% after such a abuse.

The set costs around ₹20000 and even at Mahindra ASS it will not cost any lesser. But what they will have available are the cheaper MRF Zappers for ₹10000.
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It's getting slight OT here, we should probably continue this discussion in Mojo's thread.
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The set costs around ₹20000 and even at Mahindra ASS it will not cost any lesser. But what they will have available are the cheaper MRF Zappers for ₹10000.
Well maybe, I misheard the SA regarding the tyre life. But regarding the price, please refer to this post -> Mahindra Mojo (PIC : Mahindra's Mojo 300cc caught testing near Pune. EDIT: Now Launched)

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The sad truth is that it's probably a lot more companies than just Mahindra that do this.

It's become yet another offering in the array of services PR firms offer companies.

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A Mahindra Gusto with Ride of a German car?
To add to what Tushar has said, companies typically edit videos to emphasize (only) the plus points of the vehicle.

As a policy, we avoid giving video or sound bites for this reason.

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Mahindra has responded and has taken this very positively. The company says itís an eye opener for them and they appreciate what we have done. Of course, this hasnít been done by Mahindra themselves but their social media agency (which is most likely a consulting firm outside of Mahindra). Still, agencies act on the request of the client and such things wouldnít happen without Mahindraís involvement. This article will ensure that manufacturers become a bit careful in posting fake comments.
Source : Motorbeam
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This doesn't come as a surprise to me as I personally believe Mahindras are a bit low on business ethics. I'm fighting a battle with Club Mahindra since I feel as a customer I've been misled and fooled and the product doesn't deliver what it promises.

I've also been part of media companies and know that these guys do a lot of fake stuff, especially for movie reviews. So this case sounds quite similar. Anyways, good that the truth is out, we all should be careful on what we are being fed !
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we should have similar IP tracking mechanisms (if not already) to track such behaviour on Team-BHP as well. We can crowdsource the funding, if required, amongst ourselves!!
We have our own ways to track the troublemakers. Rest assured, we keep a close eye on each & every thread. Corporates are NOT welcome on Team-BHP. This is a forum only for interaction between car owners & enthusiasts.

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People browsing online will soon figure out false reviews and fake/marketing posts. I have stopped visiting sites with suspicious posers. It will become a low quality site if there's no strict policing.
So true. If you know even a little bit about the product in question, it's so easy to spot a biased / commercial post.

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Actually that's how Google works. The sites/advertisements are ordered depending on how much a website owner is willing to pay to Google for every single visit.
You cannot pay Google to influence the order of search results. You can, however, pay Google to list your ad on the search pages.

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I have recently bought a Mahindra Xylo H4. While going through reviews, forums I came across Xylo's Facebook page. It has about 2217233 likes!!!
Yeah, those are definitely 'purchased' likes. There are companies that'll bump up your likes count for cheap.

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Reading reviews online is one thing and doing market research, sound advice from other product users is another and people are influenced more by the later.
In the end, If it's not a team-Bhp review, it doesn't matter anyways
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