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Old 11th October 2016, 11:30   #46
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Well if you want to choose among RE's then I would suggest you to go for RE Electra(name changed to Bullet 350). It has a very nice suspension set up compared to Standard 350 coupled with front disc brake and electric start. The front disc brake can be a life saver while panic braking while the electric start comes in handy while waiting at the traffic signal for quick starting.
Can you please elaborate on the difference in suspension setups? I used to think all RE's have same suspension.
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Can you please elaborate on the difference in suspension setups? I used to think all RE's have same suspension.
There is no need to elaborate mate if you know the difference between oil filled and gas filled rear suspension. The Bullet 350 uses an oil filled rear suspension while the Bullet 350(ES) aka Electra uses gas filled rear suspension. The front suspension is also slightly different on Bullet 350(ES) which used to come on earlier AVL Tbird 350. From my experience of owning Standard CI Bullet 350 which I transformed into Electra where I replaced Standard Bullet front stock suspension using Electra forks I have found the ride has become sublime and damping effect is good too.
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From my experience of owning Standard CI Bullet 350 which I transformed into Electra where I replaced Standard Bullet front stock suspension using Electra forks I have found the ride has become sublime and damping effect is good too.
Thanks. This sounds very interesting to me, was thinking of modifying my c5 to be more like standard 5.
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Mate look here on RE's website. The Bullet 350 has a suffix of (ES) which stands for electric start.
[url] But remember there is no meaning in getting a disc brake retrofitted and spending money when one can buy the Bullet 350(ES) from the showroom with disc brake + electric start.

Coming to not using Electric start. My Tbird500 comes with ES but I seldom use it as I like kick starting it. But the ES comes in real handy while waiting at signals and other such situations when quick start is needed. I would also like to mention that the new UCE motors are high compression engines and require a lot of effort for kick starting compared to low compression older CI engines. Five to Seven kicks on a UCE and one starts sweating with their knees shivering due to high compression engine.
Just checked all REs models and drove every single of them.

Standard- Good posture, stable, and easy to ride in traffic. The drum version one are Ok but I am not compromising on disk brakes. There is an electric start version with gas filled shock absorbers and disk brakes. This is a model which I like the most.

Thunderbird 350- Poor posture and not at all nimble in traffic. pretty much unusable for slogging through rush hour traffic. Did not try 500

Classic 350- Very relaxed posture and good tyre width, braking is reassuring. But not as easy as to steer as the standard in traffic.

Classic 500- Almost the same as 350 in dynamics the additional weight was minimally felt but the power delivery was butter smooth and responsive.

Bullet 500- Same excellent posture as the standard, comes with better tyres and disk brakes. The tyre size is decent compared to the standard which is only one size ahead of the moto-d I use on my RX which makes the standard extremely vulnerable in rain. The increased weight is felt at low speeds and the power is certainly high. Did not find it intimidating even in the densest of traffic.

I felt that I should take the 500 as it's a better all round package than the standard but the sales person says it would be the most inappropriate bike to use in rush hour traffic and that I should select the claasic 350.

The bike I buy would be used only within the city and based on driving experience the decision should be between Standard 350(ES) and Bullet 500.
Bullet Gurus, would the 500 be a daft decision.
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There is an electric start version with gas filled shock absorbers and disk brakes. This is a model which I like the most.
That's the Electra for you mate. It has been renamed to Bullet 350(ES). If I were you I would pick this up given the need and purpose for which I am buying it.
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Bullet 500- Same excellent posture as the standard, comes with better tyres and disk brakes. The tyre size is decent compared to the standard which is only one size ahead of the moto-d I use on my RX which makes the standard extremely vulnerable in rain. The increased weight is felt at low speeds and the power is certainly high. Did not find it intimidating even in the densest of traffic.
If you are a sucker for Bullet's regal look and timeless design then you can go for the 500cc version. I also feel if one has rode the 500cc then the 350cc version wont satisfy one. Every time you spot the 500cc version at a signal or on the road you will regret buying the 350cc version. If Only But!!
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The bike I buy would be used only within the city and based on driving experience the decision should be between Standard 350(ES) and Bullet 500.
Bullet Gurus, would the 500 be a daft decision.
Mate if your sole riding purpose is to commute within the city then Bullet 350(ES) is your option. I have a Tbird500 and although I find it easy to ride in city the whole power especially the torque is WASTED due to stop and go traffic. The traffic speeds in Bombay hardly crosses 40 KMPH during peak hours which is a gross injustice to a 500cc motor. I almost every time take out my Bullet Standard 350 for commuting in the city.

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Bullet 500- Same excellent posture as the standard, comes with better tyres and disk brakes. The tyre size is decent compared to the standard which is only one size ahead of the moto-d I use on my RX which makes the standard extremely vulnerable in rain. The increased weight is felt at low speeds and the power is certainly high. Did not find it intimidating even in the densest of traffic.

I felt that I should take the 500 as it's a better all round package than the standard but the sales person says...
Dear Cap,

I was in dilemma as you are and went ahead with the bullet 500. I have been following you in this thread, and all the time you were eyeing for the 'bullet' not the Tbird or Classic. Don't go with what the salesman say or even your friends for that matter. Go by your heart, I can sense you are attracted towards the 500 then go for it. You can bear the burden of love (500) than carry the burden that others force upon you.

The 500 fits the bill of a true bullet. It has the right tyres, headlamp, pin-stripped tank with old logo, and that olive green is awesome under the sun. Classic is too common, a cap deserves something special!
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Thunderbird 350- Poor posture and not at all nimble in traffic. pretty much unusable for slogging through rush hour traffic. Did not try 500

Classic 350- Very relaxed posture and good tyre width, braking is reassuring. But not as easy as to steer as the standard in traffic.
I am little surprised here. I have heard people praising Thunderbird's driving posture and it's cruise capabilities, ease of driving in city conditions and highway alike. I am currently owning a commuter Honda Unicorn 150 cc and my daily drive to office is of 100 kms up and down and was split between Thunderbird and Classic 350.
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It is a fact of life. Everyone's body is different.

Something that fits one person just fine won't fit someone else.

Take your favorite chair for instance.

While it conforms perfectly to your body, fitting you like a fine glove, others will find it to cause them to slouch or to have to sit too upright and pronounce it as the most uncomfortable thing they've ever sit in in their life.

The same is true with motorcycles.

A motorcycle that is perfect for one person may be totally wrong for someone else.
It may cause back pain, arm pain, neck pain or make them stretch to reach the handle bars or need to put their feet too far forward or too far back. In fact, it may be a real "pain in the butt" (literally).

That is why it is important to sit on as many different motorcycles as possible and it is even more important to take the longest test rides the dealer will allow.

While test riding a motorcycle, the obvious things like throttle response, handling and braking are most noticeable to everyone but making a mental note of needing to position your body in any manner that seems to be uncomfortable is one of the most important things to do.

I don't care how neat the motorcycle is or how many people will be looking at it and envy the owner. If it doesn't fit them, they will soon regret buying it and be stuck with riding it.

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