Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Motorbikes


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20th June 2016, 18:44   #31
BHPian
 
Asish_VK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Bangalore-Kochi
Posts: 103
Thanked: 161 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Hi dkaile,

Congrats on the new bike ! Also nicely written reviews (Both bike and the charger)

OT: Question : How is Himalayan as a daily commuter ?

Why I ask this question is, because I am thinking of changing my bike (Existing is an old Pulsar 150) which I use for office commute in Bangalore (I travel at times where traffic is relatively less ). No I am not that interested on Classic's and Thunderbird's as they are very common in Bangalore roads and the uniqueness of a bullet is lost at least here

I will not be doing any touring or off-roading, well, at least for some time (who knows whats coming). If I buy this as a daily commuter, is it justifiable ? or it will be an overkill ?


Mods, Please remove if inappropriate
Asish_VK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2016, 21:40   #32
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asish_VK View Post
OT: Question : How is Himalayan as a daily commuter ?
A frank answer would be NO, if it is just a dedicated city bike. Cheaper options are available which will be more fuel efficient too. Himalayan would just be a overkill with it's additional power and higher suspension. Just as a example, if I had to choose between my Karizma or the Himalayan as my local city ride, I would definitely pick the Karizma. My wife too would be more comfortable on the pillion seat of the Karizma as the seat is flatter, wider and lower. But for highway cruising it really is a no brainer and would definitely be the Himalayan for its higher stance and visibility, fatter tyres for more stability and of course a more powerful engine and it's ability to glide over any surface. But some of my friends using it as a daily rider would disagree, as they are using it in congested Gurgaon traffic with ease and aplomb.

But for me, Himalayan is built to explore the country. To go anywhere. But even then, if your heart is set on it, you won't really go wrong with it.

Hope that helps. Cheers...

Last edited by dkaile : 20th June 2016 at 21:46.
dkaile is online now   (6) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2016, 22:37   #33
BHPian
 
Cyborg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bombay
Posts: 353
Thanked: 204 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Hi Dkaile,

Congratulations and super interesting thread as always!

Since your friend is the dealer for RE could you please check with him regarding the ABS version of the Himalayan. Is the launch possible and if so the approximate time-frame.

Thanks and all the best.
Cyborg is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2016, 23:06   #34
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyborg View Post
Since your friend is the dealer for RE could you please check with him regarding the ABS version of the Himalayan.
There is no news about the same except speculation. The twin disk brakes as it is work excellently.

Cheers...
dkaile is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 13:08   #35
Senior - BHPian
 
man_of_steel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: BLR/TVM
Posts: 1,172
Thanked: 1,047 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Quote:
Originally Posted by dkaile View Post
One thing my mechanic was trained luckily was the engine of the Himalayan. He taught me to adjust the tappets myself in case the noise increases and I am far away from the dealership. It's a simple ten minutes process.
Would be great if you could post the steps here the next time when you are at it!
man_of_steel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2016, 14:21   #36
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by man_of_steel View Post
Would be great if you could post the steps here the next time when you are at it!
Don't want to disturb any settings for now till I face any issue, but I will post a photo of the head bolts to be loosened, soon.
dkaile is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 10:00   #37
Newbie
 
Rahul4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 19
Thanked: 7 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Congrats on your bike buddy.

Re Himalayan is a cracker of a ride. I test drove one the previous day, found it very impressive. the engine is refined and gives very good low end torque. The thud thud sound from the exhaust when you stop giving throttle is amazing and feels good when you ride on the road. The ride is very planted and stable. Special attention to be given to those amazing suspension which soak up all the bumps and rough patches of the road very well. The build quality is good. The engine is good for cruising speeds below 100 kmph but above that the engine feels stressed and shouts a lot.

I have a few questions though?
1. The seat did feel comfortable but is it the same during a long drive (around 300-400 kms at a stretch)?
2. I have heard of loose bolts issues with RE previously? Is there a solution to this problem?
3. how about the fuel efficiency?
4. Any other noticeable issues/lag in the performance of the ride during long drive?
5. I found the tyres lacking grip in tarmac? How did you find them when they got warmed up during the long drive?

Last edited by benbsb29 : 23rd June 2016 at 10:11. Reason: Edited to improve readability.
Rahul4 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 10:54   #38
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahul4 View Post
The engine is good for cruising speeds below 100 kmph but above that the engine feels stressed and shouts a lot.

I have a few questions though?
1. The seat did feel comfortable but is it the same during a long drive (around 300-400 kms at a stretch)?
2. I have heard of loose bolts issues with RE previously? Is there a solution to this problem?
3. how about the fuel efficiency?
4. Any other noticeable issues/lag in the performance of the ride during long drive?
5. I found the tyres lacking grip in tarmac? How did you find them when they got warmed up during the long drive?
Thanks. Let the engine break-in properly and speeds of around 120~130 should not be an issue.

1. Anything above 3~400 kms will stress you out, on any bike. For those ranges, air cushion seats pads like Ride-on-Air, can be tried.
2. Use bolt fastener adhesives like Loctite Blue or similar
3. Seems to be around 30ish though yet to tested on a tank to tank basis
4. Nothing that I am concerned about
5. Excellent grippy tyres. Surprised by your comment.

Cheers...
dkaile is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 12:37   #39
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Project - Auxiliary Light Fitment and Additional Twin Horn

So, although I found the stock headlight sufficient, but what's a Adventure Tourer without Auxiliary Lights... lolz. Also, though I loved the 'Road Runner' stock Minda horn, something stronger was needed to make it's presence felt in the chocked UP traffic.

So these were procured -

27W x 2 Waterproof LED Lights. Each having 9 LED's of 3W each. The round shape matches with the bike's headlights.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_1.jpg
Views: 4501
Size:  208.0 KB

2 Output (3 wire) Power Switch for these lights (from AliExpress)

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_2.jpg
Views: 4464
Size:  209.0 KB

Roots Smartone Twin Horns. I had installed these on my Karizma too and somehow liked the sound better than the Windtones. Also the shape and profile matches the overall 'round' theme I was carrying forward for the bike.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_3.jpg
Views: 4428
Size:  193.8 KB

4 Point Mini Relay for the Horns

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_4.jpg
Views: 4439
Size:  166.3 KB

This is the exact wiring Diagram I used for the Horns (after the 2-way switch)

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_5 Wiring Diagram.jpg
Views: 4820
Size:  30.7 KB

Some Scotch Lock Quick Splice Connector to avoid 'cutting' any wire. This was needed since I needed to tap into supply from a wire that got current after the ignition was switched on and not a direct one from the battery, as a direct one could lead to full battery drainage in case someone switched on the lights by mistake on an off bike.

Name:  Scootch Lock Quick Splice Connector.jpg
Views: 4435
Size:  157.6 KB


Initially I removed the stock horn and fitted these twin horns in it's place

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_6.jpg
Views: 4391
Size:  200.5 KB

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_7.jpg
Views: 4385
Size:  177.7 KB

Though they sounded nice but I missed the original beep beep sound that I have been raving about. So the stock horn was replaced back in it's original position and a 2-way (6 pin) computer power switch was installed so that I could go back to the original road runner sound whenever I wished. Here's the original horn, a 2A Minda unit but well built.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_8.jpg
Views: 4331
Size:  191.3 KB

Not a fan of the chromed front of the horn on a blacked out bike. Little oversight here by RE.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_9.jpg
Views: 4343
Size:  174.2 KB

So the seats were removed to access the battery and the fuse box

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_10.jpg
Views: 4345
Size:  189.2 KB

The fuse box was opened and wires identified to source out the current

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_11.jpg
Views: 4302
Size:  182.2 KB

The Red Wire with the blue stripe was chosen. It also supplied current to the horn and could easily take the additional load of 54 watts that I was planning to put on it. And it was routed through the ignition key and got current through the main fuse of the bike, so I would get double fuse protection as I was planning to add a fusible link to this wire in any case.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_12.jpg
Views: 4330
Size:  160.2 KB

The scotch lock connector was added to this wire without any cutting. All connections were properly tested before hand with a multimeter.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_13.jpg
Views: 4292
Size:  196.0 KB

A closer look at the scotch lock connector attached to the wire. This kind of scotch lock connector was chosen as the socket it goes into can easily be removed to go back to the stock look at any time.

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_14.jpg
Views: 4255
Size:  178.9 KB

Now the fuel tank was removed to route the cabling underneath it

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_15.jpg
Views: 4265
Size:  197.5 KB

Here is the wiring job completed and accessories finally installed at their final positions

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_16.jpg
Views: 4257
Size:  202.4 KB

This is the 2-way switch installed and neatly hidden under handlebar chassis for easily accessibility as well as being discreet

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_16 Two Way Horn Switch.jpg
Views: 4240
Size:  186.8 KB

This is the position of the Power Switch to the Auxiliary Lights, zip tied besides the ignition switch

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_16 Auxillary Lights Switch.jpg
Views: 4401
Size:  192.4 KB

While at it, the crank case was checked for any leaks after the 200 kms ride. None found, luckily...lolz

Name:  Himalauan leak check 22062016.jpg
Views: 4146
Size:  216.5 KB

This is the engine head and tappet area. You can see the 4 central bolts which need to be loosened up before adjusting the tappets. Then the tappet cover on both sides to be opened up. Then carefully adjusted. The head bolts to be tightened back in star position. Detailed procedure can be demonstrated only when I get them adjusted next.

Name:  Himalayan Head Tappet area.jpg
Views: 4173
Size:  207.1 KB

Not to happy with the clamps that I had put on those Auxiliary Lights. Those used were not of my required quality standards as I had procured them locally as none came along with the packaging. I am on the lookout for some good quality ones like this one pictured below

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-clamps_2.jpg

Here is the finished work. I think these auxiliary lights match with the bike's overall look perfectly and complements it further...

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_17.jpg
Views: 4194
Size:  251.9 KB

Name:  Himalayan Aux Light Horn Install 23062016_19.jpg
Views: 4146
Size:  239.7 KB

Cheers for now...

Last edited by dkaile : 23rd June 2016 at 12:47.
dkaile is online now   (13) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 16:31   #40
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: coorg/bombay
Posts: 308
Thanked: 116 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

@dkaile : have you observed any knocking like sound from the engine on acceleration ? I'm keeping it under 3k rpm right now for run in
howler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 17:07   #41
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by howler View Post
have you observed any knocking like sound from the engine on acceleration ? I'm keeping it under 3k rpm right now for run in
The engine supposedly redlines @6.5k rpm. So keeping it below 20% of the peak is the basic rule of thumb while breaking-in, as per my experience. Though I too have ridden it at max between 3~4k rpm. 5th gear is not happy below 60kmph, so if it is engaged before that, knocking is felt. Basically, it is properly getting used to shifting gears appropriately, to avoid any knocking. Initially I too experienced some knocking but then I realized that it is all a gear change game with this engine. Love the engine btw, nothing like the other modern REs that I have ridden.

Cheers...

Last edited by dkaile : 23rd June 2016 at 17:11.
dkaile is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2016, 20:16   #42
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Some more photos of the Auxiliary Lights modification

Head On View

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_1.jpg

With the Auxiliary Lights switched ON

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_2.jpg

With the Headlight ON on low beam and Auxiliary Lights ON

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_3.jpg

With the Headlight ON on high beam and Auxiliary Lights ON. As can be clearly made out, the LED's are much brighter than the headlight

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_4.jpg

Close up view of the 27W Auxiliary Light's waterproof body. I would say I got a great deal on these lights as I have seen people spending upto 7~10k on 20W LED's when the same are available on AliExpress for around 1~2k.

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_5.jpg

Close up of it's front

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_6.jpg

And now switched ON

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_7.jpg

Close up of the Roots Smartone Horn (Right Side) along with stock

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_8.jpg

Left Side view

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_9.jpg

Close Up of these upgrades

Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer-himalayan-led-auxiliary-lights-roots-horn-23062016_10.jpg

Cheers...

Last edited by dkaile : 23rd June 2016 at 20:18.
dkaile is online now   (5) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2016, 12:45   #43
Newbie
 
vishal.joshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 14
Thanked: 13 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

The aux lamps and horns are a nice addition to the bike . However, in an event the bike falls, the 1st thing to go will be those lamps sirjee. Why don`t you try placing the lamps close or in line to the main HL. This should give you much better lighting on the road and a bit of safety on damage of the aux lamps. Just my 2 cents.
vishal.joshi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2016, 13:21   #44
Senior - BHPian
 
dkaile's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Meerut, India
Posts: 2,758
Thanked: 3,356 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

Quote:
Originally Posted by vishal.joshi View Post
However, in an event the bike falls, the 1st thing to go will be those lamps. Why don`t you try placing the lamps close or in line to the main HL. This should give you much better lighting on the road and a bit of safety on damage of the aux lamps. Just my 2 cents.
I checked placing them at other vantage positions and this was the best option. The spread of the light is much further and placing it closer to the headlight will only decrease the spread, if anything. The purpose of 'my' bike is not to do hard core off-roading but mile crunching touring, so I doubt if I start falling now after 30 years on the road...lol. Anyways, if a fall does 'inadvertently' happen, isn't it better to loose these 850 bucks of easily replaceable aux lights than any other major damage. These are not BMW 1200GS parts for God's sake... lolz

Cheers...

Last edited by dkaile : 24th June 2016 at 13:29.
dkaile is online now   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2016, 13:49   #45
Senior - BHPian
 
navpreet318's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Dehradun
Posts: 1,690
Thanked: 793 Times
Default Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan - Comprehensive Review of the 'Desi' Adventure Tourer

I would suggest getting an engine guard from RE or getting one made yourself and then placing the lights and horn etc. on the inside of the guard or in a location where the guard protects due to its angle.

For instance on the GS I have installed the aux lights on both sides of the headlight as the angle made by the engine guards is such that it will never come in contact in case of a lay down or fall.

Those lights are really cheap though. A good deal I must say. How is the throw on road. I would also suggest getting a Morimoto 4300K HID kit for your headlight. They are superb! I have them on both high and low beams on the GS.
navpreet318 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Royal Enfield Himalayan Test-Ride Thread Jude300 Motorbikes 641 29th May 2017 14:36
Tourer: Royal Enfield Himalayan vs the others petrolhead_neel Motorbikes 37 25th October 2016 13:50
The Royal Enfield Himalayan, now launched! Tushar Motorbikes 837 20th March 2016 20:58
Royal Enfield Continental GT: The underrated tourer gopalmg Motorbikes 20 15th November 2015 11:09
Royal Enfield Himalayan Odyssey 2010 - Registrations Open praveen_sathaye Motorbikes 2 6th April 2010 17:54


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 15:01.

Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks