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Old 27th July 2018, 21:47   #481
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With due respect, apart from the marquee Bavarian brand and good paint job, for the sticker price BMW is not offering any worthwhile features to go ga ga over the bike. Indian auto journos will typically praise to the heaven any foreign brand though it might be the most basic level of automotive thing abroad, which gets introduced in india
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Old 28th July 2018, 10:11   #482
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With due respect, apart from the marquee Bavarian brand and good paint job, for the sticker price BMW is not offering any worthwhile features to go ga ga over the bike. Indian auto journos will typically praise to the heaven any foreign brand though it might be the most basic level of automotive thing abroad, which gets introduced in india
I totally agree with you here. Features wise yes quite a let down especially at the launch price. Build quality from what I've read and heard from friends, who have seen the bike is top notch. Built to last

Considering it is made in India, this should have been priced between the Duke 250 and 390. Internationally too, in most countries the Baby Beemer undercuts the Duke 390. Then why not here

That is because to most of these foreign companies think, they can make fools of us Indians and not give a damn; because some of us are willing to pay the premium just for the badge. IMHO 1 lac is just for the BMW badges on the bike. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone here, that is not the intention; just giving my opinion on this topic because it is quite annoying and frustrating to see companies do this.

On the other hand, I also think BMW have done this on purpose because they don't have a large dealer network. Maybe to keep the demand in check and gauge and see response first hand before investing more and spreading the dealer network then and maybe reduce prices ahead. But unlikely BMW will ever reduce their prices.
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Not to forget the running costs which are very low on the Dominar. For Eg. Checking the front and rear brake pads on my bike at 13K kms revealed that they need replacement. The front pads are for Rs. 238 while the rear are around Rs. 200. Remaining cycle parts replacement also does not pinch the pocket that bad!
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You can rest assured that Dominar wont be affected in any which way......
leaving the Bajaj as the king of the value in the 300 - 400cc class.
I just wish if they bring in the Dominar Adventure version soon. The reason GS has got more bookings is because of the clear market trend towards adventure versions. Himalayan sales are a proof too.

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But dominars strategy had been dependant on the rivalry to the RE. I'm glad they are changing it now!

Dominar should've had a good number on the sales chart. But sadly it's the poor marketing and the weird color choices they've manged to put on.
This exactly is their biggest problem and the main reason for failure to capitalize on the market with the Dominar. A great product in Dominar, stupid stupid marketing to put it against the RE. Even their "Dominate the Nights" ad campaign was a clear failure to understand the target customer.

I remember the Pulsar CS prototype concept was huge exciting news back when they showcased it.

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With the BMW twins out now - I feel Dominar is really out of harms way. If anything - I think it has only reaffirmed the value positioning in the market. Just have a look at the below numbers - ....

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Not to forget the running costs which are very low on the Dominar. Remaining cycle parts replacement also does not pinch the pocket that bad!
While as a customer / end user we can gauge this, but sadly the marketing force has managed to ruin the image of Dominar.

There was or rather is a huge potential in that segment. It ticks most of the boxes but the beating that Dominar brand has taken already is ruining its position further.

And I don't understand why these morons will not stop those "Haathi Mat Paalo" ads. Rather than showcasing the strengths of Dominar (which on paper look fantastic), they are showing the negatives of RE. And Negative marketing for the competing product in my opinion brings a negative aura to the buyer. It is actually helping RE sales all the more because they chose to ignore the ads and never replied to any. Which makes them more of a mature choice in peoples minds no matter whatever the shortcomings.

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I just wish if they bring in the Dominar Adventure version soon
Is there any concrete news till now, about the development of an Adventure version?
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Is there any concrete news till now, about the development of an Adventure version?
While its still not concrete sir, but the rumours do suggest that Bajaj is readying an adventure which we can hope is a Dominar / 390 engined Adventure.

Source 1 (More bikes coming in Dominar's segment, says Rajiv Bajaj)

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..I am planning to upgrade my bike from the current NS200 & the above two steeds are on my list and will start my TDs once monsoon is over.....

......With due respect, apart from the marquee Bavarian brand and good paint job, for the sticker price BMW is not offering any worthwhile features to go ga ga over the bike. Indian auto journos will typically praise to the heaven any foreign brand though it might be the most basic level of automotive thing abroad, which gets introduced in india
Good luck with your search. I quite agree with your assessment about the BMWs. I really see no point in paying a bunch of money for a 300 cc BMW or Kawasaki. If one wants to buy an imported brand, it's better to stick with 600 CC and above. That is where one really gets the differentiators; be it in the mechanicals or the brand value of the bike.

In the 8 months that I have had my Dominar, we have seen a slew of new launches. The RR310 from TVS, the BMW 310s, the Triumph 800s, the Ninja 300, and like N variations of RE. Being the motorcyle enthusiast that I am, I paid attention to each launch and I am super glad that I chose the Dominar. It really is a wonderful motorcycle for the money. It does so many things well and with very little fuss. And there have been no major quality issues such as the ones that have plagues other brands.

Incidentally, if you are planning on going to Sai Service in Andheri, I can give you the name of the sales manager there. He knows me well by now. Him and everyone else there

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...Wanted to know where did you get your biking gear especially the jacket from and the price and brand?
I will PM you the details regarding the equipment. That way, I am not blatantly promoting a commercial establishment on an open forum.


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...If I do join the D400 or D390 community maybe we can catch up on breakfast rides together.

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You are welcome to join us. I will ask our admins to include you once your bike situation is sorted.


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@Mohan, I have been following this thread and your and other D400 owners ownership experiences. You absolutely pinned your D390 & D400 comparo.
Thank you. Here is another short review for you; in case you are also considering the Himalayan which I got to ride for a good 30 KMs.

Quick impressions:
  1. Riding position and seat comfort are great. Very sorted ergonomics for long rides. Seat cushioning is excellent.
  2. Very torquey engine. Has torque in all gears. Even in 5th gear the bike accelerates quite a bit. Quite useful in traffic.
  3. Suspension. There's a lot written about this. Frankly, I don't have an opinion because I simply don't know how to evaluate the suspension. On a granular level, I did feel the bumps and the pot holes in the road. Straight line stability was perceptibly lower than Dominar. Cornering is also less confidence inspiring than on the Dominar.
  4. When cruising at 80 to 85 kmph, the bike is totally at home. Very nice. Over that, the engine sounds strained as it pulls in excess of 95 kmph. Lots of noise. But no proportionate forward movement.
  5. Over 80 kmph, the speedometer isn't very legible. The small amplitude vibrations make the speedo and the rear view mirrors hard to read.
  6. On that note, it should be said that right from the start, the dash console vibrated with an annoying, highly audible noise. I checked and rechecked to see if there was a loose item caught in the gaps of the console. There wasn't. It was the dash assembly and windscreen that was poorly put together. Sounded like having a couple of coins loose in the cup holders in your car while driving over rough pavement.
  7. Oh, and the fuel gauge didn't work.
  8. The bike is generally excellent to ride in the city traffic in slow and medium speeds. Highway riding is also good as long as you are not in a hurry. Plus the upright position means a whole lot of wind buffeting. Whole upper body gets pummeled by the wind at high speeds.
  9. Clutch is HARD. The showroom guy said that that was due to the bike being a demo used by lots of people. But it had only 1800 kms on it. So I didn't buy his explanation.
  10. The gearing also is a bit hard compared to the Dominar. But I didn't have any issues changing gears or in finding neutral.
  11. Engine heat management is poor. Lots of heat on legs. By the end of the ride, even my upper thighs that were hugging the tank (and therefore not exposed to the engine) were getting very hot.
  12. I really liked the engine note.
  13. If you like to go distances without really needing to speed to get there, and / or you need an off road capable machine for adventure riding, this bike fits the bill.
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Good luck with your search. I quite agree with your assessment about the BMWs.
Thank you Mohan

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Incidentally, if you are planning on going to Sai Service in Andheri, I can give you the name of the sales manager there. He knows me well by now. Him and everyone else there
Sure, would love that. Will ping you when I am planning to go there if the Borivli Sai Service doesn't give me a long TD.



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I will PM you the details regarding the equipment. That way, I am not blatantly promoting a commercial establishment on an open forum.
Got your PM. Replied to it, thank you do much.




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You are welcome to join us. I will ask our admins to include you once your bike situation is sorted.
Thank you so much




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Thank you. Here is another short review for you; in case you are also considering the Himalayan
[*] If you like to go distances without really needing to speed to get there, and / or you need an off road capable machine for adventure riding, this bike fits the bill.[/list]
Thank you Mohan for takin time out to reply to all my queries and going one step ahead by including a comparison with Himalayan

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Hello Dominar BHPians... I am planning a ride from Mumbai to Mysore in the last week of August. Looking for company (on 2 wheels or 4 ). Please PM me if you are interested.
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I was quite interested in the latest print advert from Bajaj in this month's Fast Bikes magazine. Bajaj is playing to their strengths (after taking many wrong turns since the product launch!) and promoting year long hyper tours, riding sessions, dominar rentals, bike shipping assistance and merchandize. Good show Bajaj, I like how they are putting really getting behind the product. And then I noticed someone in Bajaj accidentally approved usage of an image that shows a Dominar rider wearing a Benelli jacket

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