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Old 25th October 2017, 17:06   #61
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Bajaj dealers just want to warm their couches and boss over poor customers..
Fully agree with the statement. 6 months ago, my dad (66) bought discover 125 for local commute in Madurai, TN. I drove him to the showroom to take delivery of the new Bike and it was disheartening to see the way Bajaj was treating their customers including my father. The sales guy was lethargic at best and told my father that it will take 3 more days to deliver the bike when we walked in, and there 4 to 5 deliveries like this getting delayed without clear reason or communication from showroom. I had to walk in and give a earful to the showroom manager and GM subsequently after which reluctantly they agreed to deliver the vehicle in 2 hours and they delivered. But the entire episode felt like the sales guy just wasn't in the mood to deliver the vehicle that day for silly reasons.
My avenger buying experience was not even half bad as what my dad had to go through. So in my experience the showroom experience gets worse in tier 2 cities. And I don't think they can drive volume with this segment in tier 2 and 3 cities anyways.
So Sub par Showroom experience is also widespread as I am reading in this thread. I always brushed it off thinking this might be a one off incident
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Old 26th October 2017, 13:39   #62
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Keep the sales teams doing 100 - 220 cc sales to do what they've been doing. Form new teams exclusively for the Dominar! Make the customer feel special, and suddenly the motorcycle will also start looking special. Otherwise, people will start looking at the Dominar as the Pulsar 370 - which I guess is already happening. No one from the earlier mentioned customer class is going to a Bajaj showroom to buy a Pulsar 370!
RV Bajaj, Nayandahally already has a dedicated salesman for Dominar. This guy is special compared to others salespersons, He need not wear formals like others. He gets to play the cool dude wearing pulsarmania bands and all.
However, the treatment to customer is not cool at all.
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My experience with Bajaj was pleasant. Once in the showroom looking at the Dominar, SA came in with his usual greeting and explained the nifty details of the bike.

Infact he insisted me to take a TD with him as the pillion. Route fixed was 1/2 a KM. Post the TD I informed my impression of tighter gear downshift and he immediately asked to be his pillion to show the smoothness. I couldnt find any difference expect for the racy torque due to which i could have toppled. Then I realized why was he holding my right shoulder when i was driving

After the TD was discussing with my better half on how the pillion ride would be and SA immediately suggested a TD with my family. Bike was racy and wife and son liked it.

Will it be my upgrade from a 150cc, yes definitely since its a VFM bike and naked. It could be a apt bike for both City and Highway which is my requirement too.
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Compared to the pathetic Bajaj ASS , how is KTM ? I guess it will be better but is it premium ?
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I actually loved the bike. Bajaj sales and marketing needs a complete overhaul. They are the weak link in a competent product. They should have gone all out to support their most premium product. But if they expect to treat a dominar buyer with the same disdain as their entry level bike then good luck with the sale. And that 're bashing ad is one in real bad taste. Highlight your product why bad mouth your competitors?
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Frankly, Dominar's numbers are quite normal for the price bracket it is in - it was selling close to 3,000 units average/month in the first 3 months of this year, but once the FZ25 is launched, it has started facing the heat and the average units per month came down to 1,500-2,000 levels.

Let's look at the number of units, the below bikes have been selling before the launch of Dominar (this is for the period of 1 year before launch).

- Classic 500, average units - 2,200 per month
- Bullet 500, average units - 900 per month
- Thunderbird 500, average units - 330 per month
- Himalayan, average units - 950 per month
- Duke 390 twins, average units - 600 per month
- Duke 200 twins, average units - 2,000 per month
- Mojo, average units - 110 per month

Now, lets see the number of units for the same bikes, for this year 2017 (after the launch of Dominar).

- Dominar, average units, 2,250 per month (3,000 before FZ 25 launch and 1,500 after FZ 25 launch)

- Classic 500, average units - 1,700 per month (500 units lesser)
- Bullet 500, average units - 580 per month (320 units lesser)
- Thunderbird 500, average units - 200 per month (130 units lesser)
- Himalayan, average units - 475 per month (475 units lesser)
- Duke 390 twins, average units - 850 per month (250 units more - impact of 2017 launch)
- Duke 200 twins, average units - 2,300 per month (300 units more)
- Mojo, average units - 90 per month (20 units lesser)

Below bikes have been launched after the launch of Dominar, which are the main reasons for the decline in sales for Dominar.

- Duke 250, average units - 600 per month (New launch - 600 units more)
- FZ 25, average units - 3,200 per month (New launch - 3,200 units more)

If you see the above numbers, none of the comparable bikes in the same price range have sold more than 3,000 units per month (RE 350's are a different story altogether where they have even out-numbered the Pulsar brand put together ) - the maximum being Classic 500 and Duke 200 twins.

So, when Dominar launched it has sold close to 3,000 units per month which in itself is a quite an achievement, but as you can see clearly the launch of FZ 25 has quite unsettled Dominar and now the sales have been almost halved, withe Duke 250 is also stealing few numbers.

Like the OP said, Bajaj has clearly "overestimated" the sales of Dominar, whereas the 3,000 units per month seems quite normal for this bike.
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Compared to the pathetic Bajaj ASS , how is KTM ? I guess it will be better but is it premium ?
Yes. Sales experience was awesome when I was in the market for my first bike in the beginning of 2016 and I looked at both the Ninja300 and RC390. Sales chap was very prompt in greeting me, explaining things to me, clarifying doubts, following up answering all my annoying questions about their accessories etc. BUT after sales service experience is absolutely pathetic to say the least and I have tried every service center in Bangalore from Banashankari to Indiranagar to Mekhri Circle to Yelahanka. Literally covering north to south Bangalore.

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Like the OP said, Bajaj has clearly "overestimated" the sales of Dominar, whereas the 3,000 units per month seems quite normal for this bike.

Also Mr. Bajaj had stated at the launch that he is considering the "Export" numbers as well.

Whatever we are discussing here are just the Domestic numbers.





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Compared to the pathetic Bajaj ASS , how is KTM ? I guess it will be better but is it premium ?
I would rate KTM service the best out of all bikes i have owned, which includes RE, Bajaj, HeroHonda and Honda.

These guys are young passionate chaps who are prompt and efficient.
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[I would rate KTM service the best out of all bikes i have owned, which includes RE, Bajaj, HeroHonda and Honda.

These guys are young passionate chaps who are prompt and efficient.]

Looks like IshaanIan has a different kind of experience to share
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Looks like IshaanIan has a different kind of experience to share
I also find that folks in Bangalore dont know where to draw the line when cheating customers. In general I have had better experience with my vehicles in Kerala and Hyderabad.
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