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Old 28th June 2007, 08:22   #31
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Nice reviews...

However I think the Indian motor scene is taking tooo little baby steps.

100-125-150-180-200-220..240 next?

By the time they hit the 600cc range, let alone the Liter class..I'll be pushing daisies (Sure the Yam R1 and MT-1 are coming in India..but its going to be overpriced due to duty)
Atleast its taking baby steps- Thanks to hamara Bajaj!

If left to HH, would have been riding on many versions of the Splendor only.
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Atleast its taking baby steps- Thanks to hamara Bajaj!

If left to HH, would have been riding on many versions of the Splendor only.
I think we should have simply promoted rajdoot, yezdi, java and enfield. Those guys started off the basic models with 300+ cc engines. who knows, if we had given them enough business, we would have been around the litre. Since we gave in to the 'ride on the clouds' bike splendor, we are stuck in the 100cc range.
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Old 28th June 2007, 09:47   #33
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Thanks for the review technocrat. I used to ride a yezdi & i never changed to these modern bikes. I was always telling myself, 'Let a 250CC or higher Honda or Yamaha come & then i will change my bike.' The time is almost near now, i guess.

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I think we should have simply promoted rajdoot, yezdi, java and enfield. Those guys started off the basic models with 300+ cc engines. who knows, if we had given them enough business, we would have been around the litre. Since we gave in to the 'ride on the clouds' bike splendor, we are stuck in the 100cc range.
Wish we had such youngsters back then. It was always about ease of handling (light weight) & mileage which ended up bringing mopeds to india in the name of mobikes.
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Old 28th June 2007, 09:49   #34
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Hey did anybody catch the Tv ad for 220, it simply rocks, looks like everything is Transforming these days,

HAMARA BAJAJ!
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Old 28th June 2007, 10:21   #35
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I think we should have simply promoted rajdoot, yezdi, java and enfield. Those guys started off the basic models with 300+ cc engines. who knows, if we had given them enough business, we would have been around the litre. Since we gave in to the 'ride on the clouds' bike splendor, we are stuck in the 100cc range.
I am now 20 years old, and by the time i got a driving lisence in my hand, all those good old bikes had become a part of history.

Except for the Enfield, which now has a 'Royal' price tag attached to it. (although there is nothing else like it)
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Old 28th June 2007, 11:34   #36
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Atleast its taking baby steps- Thanks to hamara Bajaj!

If left to HH, would have been riding on many versions of the Splendor only.
Lol. It was HH who introduced the first ever performance bike post liberalisation. And spledor is still a better city bike then any bajaj bike.
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And spledor is still a better city bike then any bajaj bike.
Can you prove it? May be some hard facts and numbers... not just sales figures.
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Can you prove it? May be some hard facts and numbers... not just sales figures.
Iam no expert, but I have driven and owned 7 motorcycles when in college.

As most of you know the following also:

1. Splendor has a very good low end torque.
2. Smoother gear shift.
3. Realibility is awesome.
4. FE.
5. Comfortable for city riding.

Iam not trying to prove anything, these are what I feel and with many others in my circle.

HH is way better where it matters !!
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Iam no expert, but I have driven and owned 7 motorcycles when in college.

As most of you know the following also:

1. Splendor has a very good low end torque.
2. Smoother gear shift.
3. Realibility is awesome.
4. FE.
5. Comfortable for city riding.

Iam not trying to prove anything, these are what I feel and with many others in my circle.

HH is way better where it matters !!
Its beaten comprehensively by the TVS start and Bajaj Platina in all the parameters you mentioned except may be the FE... So...
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HH is way better where it matters !!
In the 100cc+ segments???

Can you point one product in which 'HH is way better where it matters?
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Have had both Splendor '99 and Boxer '01, the bajaj engine used to sound like a cat fight happening nearby and had a host of issues with the carb. (the bike used to give away in the damnest of places, hav pushed it on MG road, majestic..) and the gear box was frigid
inspite of reg service at the company service centre.

I remember starting my splendor on the first kick after five months of no usage and now I have a Pulsar 150 '04 which to spring into action takes a minimum of three kicks in cold start and two otherwise and all of my bikes have been serviced by the book.

One thing appreciable by bajaj though is the continuous improvements in the bikes features which were new to the market. Refinement though HH beats hands down.
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Atleast its taking baby steps- Thanks to hamara Bajaj!

If left to HH, would have been riding on many versions of the Splendor only.
Muhahahah.. I fell off my chair for this one.. True very true. HH would have had about 25 models of 100ccs if there were no competition.

Dont they have about 20 models now itself? (Just kidding)

But yeah.. Hurrah for Hamara Bajaj.
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thankfully got a chance to ride a p220 a month back...
and as far as karizmas is cocerned, have been riding them since its existence....
well comparision is fine but the the character of the p220 lies in the way it accelerates after 80kmph, and not 0-60kmph. so a karizma (or even for that matter a 180Vi Pulsar) might be faster untill 80kmph in the hands of a experienced dragger, but after that, no chance at all....
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If left to HH, would have been riding on many versions of the Splendor only.
Would just like to point out- the performance mania was kicked off by the CBZ, remember? Pulsars just took it a step ahead.

Bajaj is marching in the right direction, although their engineering dept. would've been better off had they retained their partnership with Kawasaki. The most refined Bajaj powertrain that I've liked till date, came off the Eliminator. Not surprisingly, Kawasaki mechanicals....
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Would just like to point out- the performance mania was kicked off by the CBZ, remember? Pulsars just took it a step ahead.

Bajaj is marching in the right direction, although their engineering dept. would've been better off had they retained their partnership with Kawasaki. The most refined Bajaj powertrain that I've liked till date, came off the Eliminator. Not surprisingly, Kawasaki mechanicals....
Exactly, when CBZ was launched the best Bajaj had to offer was Caliber and of course Chetak

And Eliminator in its original avtar is a far better bike than the Bajaj engine in the toned down Avenger.
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