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Old 3rd January 2013, 15:56   #2296
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One small question, what is the typical service intervals for these gearless scooters ? Do all brands have similar service intervals ?

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Wego is a good choice, fits in to most of your requirments. Another good option would be Swish but will depend whether you have a Suzuki workshop close by.

But if you really want that peace of mind, opt for Honda Aviator. Couple of my friends swear by the reliability and performace too. Also Aviators are easily available as they cost a bit more than the Activa, hence off the shelf.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will check out the aviator and swish. If I'm not wrong, aviator is the only scooter which comes with a disk brake option.

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If it's not going to be used very frequently and only for short distances, then I'd advise you to get a Scooty [Pep/Streak or some such variant]. It's a popular and proven product, and you'll save approx 10-12k [i.e. compared to buying a Wego/Activa/Swish/Access], which could be equal to your fuel expenses for a couple of years maybe.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will check out the Scooty too when I visit the TVS showroom for Wego.

If it saves 10k, I wouldn't mind going around on a girly scooterette.

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So I think the scooter is the way to go! Wego it is then for me!
25kms a day on week days then yes Gearless is a good option than an entry level bike. Try out the Aviator too if you are tall.

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One small question, what is the typical service intervals for these gearless scooters ? Do all brands have similar service intervals ?
For the suzuki scooters its 2 months i guess. For TVS Wego the service is every 3 months or 3000kms but oil change is at every 6000kms. Honda is again 3 months or 2500kms whichever is earlier. Yamaha i think follows suit but you can get more info from the ownership thread in the motorbikes section.
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Guys, Is the tire rim specification different for the "steel" rim Aviator? I saw a few today and noticed that the front and rear rim design is different.
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Guys, Is the tire rim specification different for the "steel" rim Aviator? I saw a few today and noticed that the front and rear rim design is different.
Aviator owners can correct me if I am wrong - Aviator's rear tyre steel rim is 10 inch whereas the front alloy wheel rim size is 12 inch. Hence the front tyre is 90/90-12 whereas rear is 90/100-10. Hope this helps.
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Aviator owners can correct me if I am wrong - Aviator's rear tyre steel rim is 10 inch whereas the front alloy wheel rim size is 12 inch. Hence the front tyre is 90/90-12 whereas rear is 90/100-10. Hope this helps.
Yes, you are right; I just checked the website; why the difference in tire size? Also, why does Honda consider the number plate to be an accessory?
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why the difference in tire size? Also, why does Honda consider the number plate to be an accessory?
No idea, Honda can clarify. I guess Honda wanted to put in disc brakes for the Aviator in the front hence the front rim has been puffed up to 12inch.

Number plate is Honda's whim of slotting it as an accessory. Suggest you avoid it and get a number plate from outside prefarbly an embossed one. The one provided by Honda are stickered ones which come off after certain period.
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No idea, Honda can clarify. I guess Honda wanted to put in disc brakes for the Aviator in the front hence the front rim has been puffed up to 12inch.

Number plate is Honda's whim of slotting it as an accessory. Suggest you avoid it and get a number plate from outside prefarbly an embossed one. The one provided by Honda are stickered ones which come off after certain period.
I don't have to buy it for now. I am still a sort of happy owner of the Dio but was considering a new scooter for wifey. While Aviator was not considered initially, I am considering it now as it is the only scooter that comes with a disc brake unless Vespa Fly also comes with it.
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I don't have to buy it for now. I am still a sort of happy owner of the Dio but was considering a new scooter for wifey. While Aviator was not considered initially, I am considering it now as it is the only scooter that comes with a disc brake unless Vespa Fly also comes with it.
Actually, just this morning I saw a TVS wego with the Aviator's disc brake. Since both are 12" wheels, there wouldn't be much of modifications to do except perhaps an accommodation needs to be made for the brake oil reservoir. The Wego sped off before I could ask any questions.

This was my idea before I purchased my Wego too, but I have not been very brave with testing it out.

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Actually, just this morning I saw a TVS wego with the Aviator's disc brake.
Did you mean disc brakes on the Wego? Thats news. Coz Wego comes with 12 inch wheels front and rear. But still has the telescopic in front and spring loaded suspensions at the rear.
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No idea, Honda can clarify. I guess Honda wanted to put in disc brakes for the Aviator in the front hence the front rim has been puffed up to 12inch.
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I think the 12 inch wheel is for better handling and the 10 inch at the back is for saving space.
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Did you mean disc brakes on the Wego? Thats news. Coz Wego comes with 12 inch wheels front and rear. But still has the telescopic in front and spring loaded suspensions at the rear.
Yeah! disc brakes on the Wego. I didn't see it from close, but i think he had just picked up the entire assembly of the disc, rim and the wheel of the Aviator and plonked it into the Wego. I went back home and checked out the Wego's front wheel and I think that's what he had done. I didnt see anyway of putting in just the disc brake on the Wego wheel. There isn't any provision of fixing the disc brake anywhere.

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After whacking my brains over which scooty to get, I visited the Pilot Honda showroom( checking on the Dio) in Govandi and came out in 30 minutes, disappointed. Maybe I was expecting treatment similar to the one I got for my A4 purchase. It represented a chaotic Government office. Returned home and sent in a stinker to Honda, portraying my displeasure about the showroom managers attitude towards me. The very next day, got a call from the showroom, asking me about my problem. The episode ended there.
Then considered the Ray after reading @yikes superb review. However did not get a chance to visit the dealer.
After a few days, found out about the "multibrand showrooms" that charge a premium and manage any 2 wheeler one wants. A friend suggested Alibhai Premji at Lamington Road and I ended up visiting them today. Got chatting with a nice guy there and he suggested to go in for the Activa,since it was just 2000 dearer and the metal body was easy to fix.
I was back to square 1.
While talking to my wife and complaining how expensive the scooty is going to be ...@ 63000 for Dio and 65000 for Activa ( OTR Mumbai), it dawned upon us that we could might as well consider the Vespa :-)

Hopefully, tomorrow, I will be visiting the Vespa guys at Bandra. Considering the Blue one.
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I have a few questions about Honda Activa and Dio :

1. Is it possible to put tubeless tyres on Activa ? Does the rim needs to changed for putting tubeless tyres ?

2. How much is the weight difference between Activa and Dio ? I am not able to find the weight on the Honda website.

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Is it possible to put tubeless tyres on Activa ? Does the rim needs to changed for putting tubeless tyres ?
They already come with Tuff-Up tubes so it would be a wasted expense. But if you still rather do it, you should be able to.

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How much is the weight difference between Activa and Dio ? I am not able to find the weight on the Honda website.
Not from any credible source but just off the web, Activa is 110kgs and Dio is 104kgs.
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I1. Is it possible to put tubeless tyres on Activa ? Does the rim needs to changed for putting tubeless tyres ?

2. How much is the weight difference between Activa and Dio ? I am not able to find the weight on the Honda website.
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1. As per Honda dealer I interacted, you cant put a tubeless tyre in Activa. Dio comes with tubeless tyres. There is a slight difference in the tyre sizes for Activa & Dio although both have the same rim size of 10inch.
2. Kerb weight: Activa - 111 kgs, Dio - 110 kgs.
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