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Old 9th January 2013, 20:35   #2311
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Thanks for the replies guys.

While we are at it, what about the tyres in TVS Wego ? Is a tubeless tyre available for Wego ?

Also, I noticed that Dio has a 3 Ah battery compared to 5 Ah battery of Activa. I fail to understand the reason for this difference.

Is it possible to put the 5Ah battery in Dio ?

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Also, I noticed that Dio has a 3 Ah battery compared to 5 Ah battery of Activa. I fail to understand the reason for this difference
Both the current versions of the activa and dio have 3Ah maintenance free batteries. The previous versions of both activa and dio had 5Ah batteries which were of the conventional type. That's one of the major grouses I have with my dio. The battery capacity is simply not sufficient.

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Is it possible to put the 5Ah battery in Dio ?
As far as specs are concerned, I learnt that the battery can be upgraded to 4 and 5Ah. The length and breadth is same, however height of the battery varies. From what I know of the battery mounting in Dio, it is possible to have to have a battery of a greater height. Just the upper clamp must be altered a bit.
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While we are at it, what about the tyres in TVS Wego ? Is a tubeless tyre available for Wego ?
Rohan,
Unfortunately the Wego does not come with Tubeless tyre. The rim size is 12". Wego owners can confirm if tubeless tyres can be put on the Wego. BTW what manufacturer's tyres does Wego come with?
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I just bought a Mahindra Duro DZ 125cc. It seems to be quite a comfortable scooter with its wide seat and comparatively high handlebar. Will put up an initial ownership report soon.
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Both the current versions of the activa and dio have 3Ah maintenance free batteries. The previous versions of both activa and dio had 5Ah batteries which were of the conventional type. That's one of the major grouses I have with my dio. The battery capacity is simply not sufficient.

As far as specs are concerned, I learnt that the battery can be upgraded to 4 and 5Ah. The length and breadth is same, however height of the battery varies. From what I know of the battery mounting in Dio, it is possible to have to have a battery of a greater height. Just the upper clamp must be altered a bit.
I checked the Honda website for the specifications of Activa and Dio. The Honda website mentions 5 Ah battery for Activa and 3 Ah battery for Dio. Thats why I had this doubt.

BTW, congratulations on your Dio. I read your Dio thread and loved the narration.

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Took the test ride of the Vespa last evening. The showroom experience was amazing. Well trained staff at the Bandra,Mumbai dealership. OTR Mumbai is 71,000 odd.
The scooter is indeed zippy and powerful. However, since I was riding a 2 wheeler after almost 15 years, was scared to really 'try it' out. I realised one issue with most of the scooters like Vespa, Activa, Aviator is that the seats are really wide, making it uncomfortable to plant both the feet easily on the ground ( unless you sit at the edge). I'm 5.6 and wife 5.4. I have no issues with just the tip of my feet touching for balancing, however for someone like my wife, who has never ridden a 2 wheeler, it would be a problem.
I'm going to get a feel of the Yamaha Ray , else will finalise on the Scooty Streak, which is a smaller bike.
Another issue is that of my usage, which is hardly going to be 1 km per week. I don't think I need a powerful scooter like the Activa, Vespa, Dio, Ray.It would be an overkill. Most of the usage is going to be @ 30~40 kmph. I would have been happy if the Bajaj Sunny @ 50 odd cc was still available.

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I think the TVS Wego comes with TVS Srichakra tyres. At best, it is average.

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Unfortunately the Wego does not come with Tubeless tyre. The rim size is 12". Wego owners can confirm if tubeless tyres can be put on the Wego. BTW what manufacturer's tyres does Wego come with?
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Took the test ride of the Vespa last evening. The showroom experience was amazing. Well trained staff at the Bandra,Mumbai dealership. OTR Mumbai is 71,000 odd.
The scooter is indeed zippy and powerful. However, since I was riding a 2 wheeler after almost 15 years, was scared to really 'try it' out. I realised one issue with most of the scooters like Vespa, Activa, Aviator is that the seats are really wide, making it uncomfortable to plant both the feet easily on the ground ( unless you sit at the edge). I'm 5.6 and wife 5.4. I have no issues with just the tip of my feet touching for balancing, however for someone like my wife, who has never ridden a 2 wheeler, it would be a problem.
I'm going to get a feel of the Yamaha Ray , else will finalise on the Scooty Streak, which is a smaller bike.
Another issue is that of my usage, which is hardly going to be 1 km per week. I don't think I need a powerful scooter like the Activa, Vespa, Dio, Ray.It would be an overkill. Most of the usage is going to be @ 30~40 kmph. I would have been happy if the Bajaj Sunny @ 50 odd cc was still available.
If your usage is so less, then why don't u invest the money into an electric scooter? Far cheaper, less maintenance and super frugal on the pocket too.

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Unfortunately the Wego does not come with Tubeless tyre. The rim size is 12". BTW what manufacturer's tyres does Wego come with?
Wego does not come with tubeless tyres but comes with Tuff up tubes on both the wheels. And since the wheels are alloys, tubeless tyres should not be very difficult.

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I think the TVS Wego comes with TVS Srichakra tyres. At best, it is average.
As KS14 has mentioned, it does come with TVS brand tyres. But the grip is leagues ahead compared to the crappy tyres of the RTR! Very good stability in dry, good grip and no fishtailing in wet, sand and gravel its average grips. For a scooter, it has good grip levels.
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If your usage is so less, then why don't u invest the money into an electric scooter? Far cheaper, less maintenance and super frugal on the pocket too.

Prajwal
I'm hassled by the charging of 2 cellphones, 1 tablet, 2 laptops, 1 ipod, 1 adsl modem, 1 wi-fi router.. Don't need the additional burden of charging a scooter battery, that would take 6-7 hrs everytime and could discharge, if not used for a long period.
Not looking at an economical solution, just need a convenient solution.
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Here's a quotation I got from Dream Honda, Bangalore for the Aviator DLX (with disk brakes):

Vehicle

Ex-Showroom: Rs.55,693
Insurance: Rs.1,422
Registration and Road Tax: Rs. 7,768

Vehicle Total: Rs.64,884

Accessories

01. Saree Step: Rs.550
02. Fender Guard: Rs.200
03. A.R. Guard: Rs.530
04. Armour Guard: Rs.620
05. Side Stand: Rs.250
06. Floor Mat: Rs.220
07. Ladies Handle: Rs.150
08. Helmet Lock: Rs.245
09. Buzzer: Rs.80
10. Number Plates: Rs.280
11. Grip Cover: Rs.110
12. Body Cover: Rs.399
13. Seat Cover: Rs.320
14. Teflon Coating: Rs.450
15. Roadside Assistance (1 year): Rs.300
16. Extended Warranty (3 years): Rs.610

Accessories Total: Rs.5,314

Grand Total: Rs.70,198

I don't think any sane person would pay 70k for an Aviator, one would rather go for Vespa instead.

I was considering this because it is the only Honda scoot which comes with telescopic suspensions. I own a first gen Dio, and from that experience, I will never buy a two wheeler without good suspensions again.

Maybe I would buy a Wego, Swish or a Ray, or maybe an Aviator with drum brakes (costs some 5k lesser than the disc variant, but still feels expensive). One more option is a colleague's four month old Aviator DLX (1800 kms on the odo). He's quoting less than 60k for that, which I think is fair value.

Suggestions/advice would be a huge help as always! I am a confused soul right now.

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If you exclude those accessories, I think it will be a good deal considering you are getting disc brakes, alloy wheels. When I brought my Dio, I striked out accessories. Just opted for the bare minimum, like side stand, foot rest and their so called teflon coating. So, chuck all those and get a new scoot. I think the vespa is not available for 70k in bangalore. It is much expensive.
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If you exclude those accessories, I think it will be a good deal considering you are getting disc brakes, alloy wheels. When I brought my Dio, I striked out accessories. Just opted for the bare minimum, like side stand, foot rest and their so called teflon coating. So, chuck all those and get a new scoot. I think the vespa is not available for 70k in bangalore. It is much expensive.
Thanks for the suggestion. Vespa quoted me a price of 72.6k + accessories a couple of days ago.

Plus, don't you think it would be a good idea to go for the four month old Aviator DLX, which can be called almost new, considering I am getting that for a lesser price than even a new Aviator drum brakes variant.

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don't you think it would be a good idea to go for the four month old Aviator DLX, which can be called almost new, considering I am getting that for a lesser price than even a new Aviator drum brakes variant.
Absolutely. You are getting a good deal considering that you save on the Insurance and the road tax. Just ensure that there is no issue with the Aviator and the reasons for selling is genuine. I hope on the colour front too you are OK.

Looking at the accessories list - could not understand too many guards and whats the ladies handle costing Rs 150/-?
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Absolutely. You are getting a good deal considering that you save on the Insurance and the road tax. Just ensure that there is no issue with the Aviator and the reasons for selling is genuine. I hope on the colour front too you are OK.

Looking at the accessories list - could not understand too many guards and whats the ladies handle costing Rs 150/-?

Thanks ghodlur for your views.

Yes, I am Ok with the colour. It's a grey one, which I think looks good on an Aviator.

The various guards I think are the ones that cover the front turn indicators (Armour Guard), one that runs across the front wheel (fender) and the one that runs from footpeg to footpeg through the rear of the vehicle (All round Guard). You have a choice of black powder coated ones and steel ones in these.

Ladies handle is the one put on the side of the rear seat, so that ladies can sit on sideways with it's help.

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