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Old 24th February 2014, 17:07   #2791
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Is the Wego with disc brakes not available? Dealers are not even willing to take orders for disc brake version.
Isn't it true that you have to be extra cautious with disc brakes on a two-wheeler, where chances of lockups are higher? Also, on wet surfaces, is there a higher risk of slippage if you are on a turn and brake suddenly?
Please confirm if this in a myth or a fact.

Coming over the pricing of scooters, does anyone know how much affect the excise duty cut has had on the pricing of Activa, Jupiter et. al.?
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Isn't it true that you have to be extra cautious with disc brakes on a two-wheeler, where chances of lockups are higher? Also, on wet surfaces, is there a higher risk of slippage if you are on a turn and brake suddenly?
Please confirm if this in a myth or a fact.
Myth. We have an Aviator Disc brake version with us for 3 years now, and never have I (or wife - primary user) felt the disc brakes were hard to use or anything. If anything, they increase your confidence in braking.

Also, braking on turn or slippery roads etc are not dependent on type of brake, but rather on type of rider
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Isn't it true that you have to be extra cautious with disc brakes on a two-wheeler, where chances of lockups are higher? Also, on wet surfaces, is there a higher risk of slippage if you are on a turn and brake suddenly?
Please confirm if this in a myth or a fact.

Coming over the pricing of scooters, does anyone know how much affect the excise duty cut has had on the pricing of Activa, Jupiter et. al.?
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Lockups happen irrespective of the brake type you have, if you panic and apply at full force. Once you get used to the brake feel, you will really appreciate the disc brakes. Even if you lock up the brakes its not very difficult to control. We have a Aviator with disc brakes and its braking is miles apart from other scooters and in fact it is even more safer due to the reduced the braking distance compared to the drum version.

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All, I am looking to buy a gearless scooter. Not sure if this was discussed earlier, Would like to know which one gives the highest mileage.

BTW, I was browsing through the classifieds section for used bikes and the prices quoted were way too much. Someone trying to sell a 1980's Enfield Mofa for a cool 1 lac or Yamaha RX-100 for 80k or an ind-suzuki for 1 lac!! OMG!! The used bikes market works on the mantra 'anything old is antique', I guess.

Sorry about the OT!!
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All, I am looking to buy a gearless scooter. Not sure if this was discussed earlier, Would like to know which one gives the highest mileage.
Most of the gearless scooters available in the market right now give a mileage in the range of 35-45 kmpl depending the driving conditions. I personally have been able to achieve a mileage of 49 kmpl in my Honda Activa but that was too when I did economy drive to test the scooter.

Can we know why mileage is the only criteria for buying a scooter? Higher mileage can be achieved in bikes too and much better than scooters.
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Most of the gearless scooters available in the market right now give a mileage in the range of 35-45 kmpl depending the driving conditions. I personally have been able to achieve a mileage of 49 kmpl in my Honda Activa but that was too when I did economy drive to test the scooter.

Can we know why mileage is the only criteria for buying a scooter? Higher mileage can be achieved in bikes too and much better than scooters.
Thanks ghodlur. I am looking for a scooter is so my wife can ride it too. My only expectation from the scooter is high mileage and low running costs. 35 - 45 looks very low. I thought the scooty streak and wego give more than 50.
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Thanks ghodlur. I am looking for a scooter is so my wife can ride it too. My only expectation from the scooter is high mileage and low running costs. 35 - 45 looks very low. I thought the scooty streak and wego give more than 50.
Obviously. More cc translates to lesser mileage. I dont think the wego can give 50+ in similar conditions where an activa/dio can return 40. The streak can return good FE since it has a smaller engine and is lighter. If the running is low, mostly for short distances where you dont want to take your car, then I wonder how FE matters. It does only matter if you plan to commute regularly to work or similar. And I have observed that these scooters return lesser FE if used for short trips. So, its really difficult to judge FE from scooter to scooter.
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Thanks ghodlur. I am looking for a scooter is so my wife can ride it too. My only expectation from the scooter is high mileage and low running costs. 35 - 45 looks very low. I thought the scooty streak and wego give more than 50.
Our 3 year old Access gives 50 kmpl since I drive around 40 kmph speed with minimal braking and gentle acceleration. The traffic is minimal and I turn off the engine at signals since I know how long they will last.

However, previously my wife used to ride it for most of the time and those would be short trips to drop me to the bus stop as pillion and some trips to the local market. The average was around 40-42 kmpl.
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I hope this helps, yesterday on traffic signal i asked a young woman who was riding Activa-i, she was not riding sedatly for sure, and was experienced enough graduating from Scooty pep+, and she confidently claims she gets a mileage of 55kms/ltr. Now if guys are wondering how i could get so much info on a traffic signal, well it was long enough in morning rush hour traffic.
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Hi guys,

Been contemplating a scooter with electric start for my 60 year old dad. He has been driving a Kawasaki Bajaj KB 100 RTZ for 25 years and a TVS Scooty for last 12 years.

I want a safe, comfortable, stable, well riding, easy to use scooter in the 50-55 K range.

The trips would be max 10 km daily so fuel efficiency does not matter.

It would be good if the scooter is chunky and a bit powerful (>=100 cc, 7-11 BHP). A puny 60 cc scooterrete is the last thing I want to gift him, as he is medium built and 5 foot 6.

I considered the TVS Jupiter and the TV Wego, since the TVS Showroom is near to us.

Any other better choice which would warrant a special mention?

Thanks in advance.

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I considered the TVS Jupiter and the TV Wego, since the TVS Showroom is near to us.

Any other better choice which would warrant a special mention?
Jupiter may be bigger for him at that age. Instead you can consider Wego. Also check out Yamaha Ray which is easier to ride in traffic with smaller body and 113cc peppy engine.
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Been contemplating a scooter with electric start for my 60 year old dad. He has been driving a Kawasaki Bajaj KB 100 RTZ for 25 years and a TVS Scooty for last 12 years.

I want a safe, comfortable, stable, well riding, easy to use scooter in the 50-55 K range.

The trips would be max 10 km daily so fuel efficiency does not matter.

Any other better choice which would warrant a special mention?

Thanks in advance.
My Dad (who will turn 72 next month) is a happy man with his TVS Wego. His requirements were exactly similar to your Dad's. It has been 1.5 years now since he bought the TVS Wego, absolutely no niggles/issues at all (though his average monthly running is very less, around 100km). Some of the plus points of Wego:
  • Very easy to handle, body balance does really work
  • Putting the scooter on centre stand is a child's play
  • Easy access to fuel tank lid for refills, no need to get off your seat
  • Decent acceleration, can pull two effortlessly. Helps sedate drivers
Besides the above the TVS showroom/service centre is walking distance from my home (big plus).

I think TVS Wego is one of the best scooters for the elderly. Go for it blind folded.
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... as he is medium built and 5 foot 6.
Please let him test drive the scooters and select the one which he is comfortable with.

From my test drive experience, I feel that Yamaha Ray would be best suited for a person of height 5'6" since it has a lower saddle height compared to the other scooters available in the market.

While taking test drive, also make it a point to check how easy it is to get seated on the pillion seat. Some scooters (Wego, Aviator etc) have a very tall pillion seat, which makes it very difficult to use for the elderly or people with less height.

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Thanks all,

I too liked the Yamaha Ray. It is stylish and peppy. Will have it high in my list too.
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Hi all,
I purchased a preowned kinetic flyte recently and need to change the tyres now, please suggest a good one for grip and comfort.

Also, the ground clearance is quite low. Any upgrades possible?
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