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Old 19th May 2015, 10:19   #3346
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Thanks Ilangop. 50 is great. Since both have the same engine i don't think its impossible for me too to get that FE. Pretty reassuring.
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Noob question on engine oil replacement during free services:
- Aviator scooter serviced at ~500Km, 500Km less than the max. 1000Km within which first service is due. Engine oil was drained and replaced.
- Second free service done at ~2000Km, 2000Km less than max. 4000Km second service limit. Again Engine oil was drained and replaced.
My question is, in these two cases was it really necessary to replace engine oil or both could have been carried out later (maybe DIY) ?
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Noob question on engine oil replacement during free services:
- Aviator scooter serviced at ~500Km, 500Km less than the max. 1000Km within which first service is due. Engine oil was drained and replaced.
- Second free service done at ~2000Km, 2000Km less than max. 4000Km second service limit. Again Engine oil was drained and replaced.
My question is, in these two cases was it really necessary to replace engine oil or both could have been carried out later (maybe DIY) ?
In the case of my Jupiter, after oil change in 1st service it was done on the 3or 4th service only. Not at every service. What does your user manual say about the tasks involved in servicing? Just to avail all benefits of warranty, better to get in touch with service centre till all free service coupons are emptied.

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Thanks Ilangop. 50 is great. Since both have the same engine i don't think its impossible for me too to get that FE. Pretty reassuring.
Since I have emptied all free service coupons, I am thinking of a full DC system upgrade and bring the headlight on DC itself. Think a pulsar / Ape rectifier can handle the load, because this time I will go for 55/60W halogen. Will update if I get through this project.
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Noob question on engine oil replacement during free services:
- Aviator scooter serviced at ~500Km, 500Km less than the max. 1000Km within which first service is due. Engine oil was drained and replaced.
- Second free service done at ~2000Km, 2000Km less than max. 4000Km second service limit. Again Engine oil was drained and replaced.
My question is, in these two cases was it really necessary to replace engine oil or both could have been carried out later (maybe DIY) ?
Jupiter has an oil change every 6k kms and inspection kind of service every 3k kms. The engine oil used is semi synthetic. I switched to full synthetic oil during the 500 kms service keeping in mind the longer drain interval.
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Looking to replace the rear tire of my activa (2009 model with 20 k on the odo) since the treads in the centre have worn out. It came with MRF Nylogrip and none of the tire shops in Indiranagar have MRF in stock. Even the Honda SVC on OM road didnt have MRF and offered TVS which I refused since not confident of grip.

Any suggestions? Looking for something which offers good grip in wet conditions. Also am assuming I have to go for a tube one given that the rims may not be designed for tubeless. If so can I continue with the current tube or would the new tire come with a tube or is to be purchased separately?

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Looking to replace the rear tire of my activa (2009 model with 20 k on the odo) since the treads in the centre have worn out. It came with MRF Nylogrip and none of the tire shops in Indiranagar have MRF in stock. Even the Honda SVC on OM road didnt have MRF and offered TVS which I refused since not confident of grip.

Any suggestions? Looking for something which offers good grip in wet conditions. Also am assuming I have to go for a tube one given that the rims may not be designed for tubeless. If so can I continue with the current tube or would the new tire come with a tube or is to be purchased separately?

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Hi, For a small 3.5-10" which wouldn't make a 0-100 kmph in 3 seconds I really wouldn't mind about the brand. But going tubeless would be a better way to upgrade I suppose.
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In the case of my Jupiter, after oil change in 1st service it was done on the 3or 4th service only. Not at every service. What does your user manual say about the tasks involved in servicing?
As per the manual, for 1st and 2nd free service it does mention "Replace engine oil", but my question was since the scooter had not done enough miles, was it really necessary to replace and it could have been postponed ? But then, since there is also the time limit on these free services, I don't think this is an option. I will need to take care of this after the 4th free service.

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Jupiter has an oil change every 6k kms and inspection kind of service every 3k kms. The engine oil used is semi synthetic. I switched to full synthetic oil during the 500 kms service keeping in mind the longer drain interval.
Is synthetic oil an option for the Honda scooters as well ? As far as I know they use Honda's Engine Oil for replacements but I'm not sure if there is an option for Synthetic as well.
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Is synthetic oil an option for the Honda scooters as well ? As far as I know they use Honda's Engine Oil for replacements but I'm not sure if there is an option for Synthetic as well.
I guess it should be available. In TVS you TVS TRU4 branded engine oil in both semi synthetic and synthetic. Both 10W-30 grade oils.
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Hi, For a small 3.5-10" which wouldn't make a 0-100 kmph in 3 seconds I really wouldn't mind about the brand. But going tubeless would be a better way to upgrade I suppose.
Failed to understand this analogy, IMO even if it does not do a 0-100 dash in 3 seconds I would still be concerned about grip under hard braking in wet conditions for e.g. Read reviews about TVS motorcycle tyres being not grippy, does it extend to scooter tyres also?

Tubeless will make sense, but will it fit in a rim of a 2009 Activa? The rim has to be such that the tubeless tyre is an airtight mount. Also I understand that the tuffup tubes do a good job, can I continue to use the old tubes in a new tyre?
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OK. We got the white Zest and my wife started going to an instructor to learn. She does not ride a bicycle. After a eek, she was trying the Zest in the parking compound and due to dis-balance, accelerated hard without control and rammed into the stilt parking pillar (had picked up a decent speed by then).
What could have been a really ugly mess was just a very bad accident with some head injury and a few stitches.

All that said, she is still determined to continue once she recovers and I do not want to hamper her will and confidence.

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Is there any way to prevent the Zest from crossing a speed of, say 25 KMPH in the initial days. I plan to increase the limit gradually.
One way would be to loosen the accelerator cable to increase play. Any other ideas?

Sorry to hear about the accident, but kudos to your wife for the determination to continue.

I would recommend not making any changes to the scooter. It is best to learn to adapt to the machine than to make the machine adapt to the rider. Injuries are part of the process . Just make sure that she uses a helmet all the time, try only in open grounds till the time she develops decent balance and make sure that she always does the learning under someone's presence. She should be good. All the best

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As per the manual, for 1st and 2nd free service it does mention "Replace engine oil", but my question was since the scooter had not done enough miles, was it really necessary to replace and it could have been postponed ? But then, since there is also the time limit on these free services, I don't think this is an option. I will need to take care of this after the 4th free service.
I have done 1st service for my Wego at 250kms (i.e 30 days from the date of purchase). They have changed the oil. 2nd Service done at 550kms and they told me no need to change the oil. However they have charged me Rs.40 towards ''Oil Top up''..!!
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As far as I know they use Honda's Engine Oil for replacements but I'm not sure if there is an option for Synthetic as well.
Here's the Honda website page for engine oils:Link
The regular engine oil used for replacement during services is SAE 10W30 MB.
However, they also have another (fully synthetic) one called Throttle Fully Synthetic SAE 10W30 Engine Oil.
Can this be used on the 4-stroke Gearless Scooters ?

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Here's the Honda website page for engine oils:Link
The regular engine oil used for replacement during services is SAE 10W30 MB.
However, they also have another (fully synthetic) one called Throttle Fully Synthetic SAE 10W30 Engine Oil.
Can this be used on the 4-stroke Gearless Scooters ?
I had thought about this oil but wasn't able to source this from the Honda parts shop. Hence I started using Shell Advance Ultra fully synthetic oil since it has a superior grade API SM instead of the API SL offered by the honda FS oil. Have been using the oil from last 9k kms with three changes so far. The oil stays good till the end and the engine is super smooth irrespective of temperature and speed. The Honda oil which came from factory and first change used to make the engine rough when cold and in stop go conditions. But this made a huge difference.
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Our Access125 runs very hot, and even heats up the storage area to an almost untouchable state. It's due for an engine oil change. What kind/brand engine oil would you recommend to maintain a cooler engine? Also what else could possibly be the issue here?
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Our Access125 What kind/brand engine oil would you recommend to maintain a cooler engine?
I have been using Shell advance ultra fully synthetic for the past 1.5 yrs on our swish and pulsar and the ride quality difference is easily noticeable by other swish owners. The under seat storage heating which used to be very high has decreased to an extent too. It retails at about 700/ltr
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