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Old 15th October 2015, 16:05   #3511
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How is Jupiter in terms of reliability?
Having both the Jupiter and the Activa in the family and having driven both extensively, I can say for sure that the Jupiter is miles ahead in terms of the stability, brakes and ride comfort.

I am not sure about the maintenance cost and the FE as both the vehicles go to a FNG for upkeep and hardly run about 350 kms a month.
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Plus the fuel lid being outside. Won't have to empty the storage bin to refill.

I have absolutely zero experience with scooters, so looking for expert advice from you folks.
Even in the Activa, you don't have to empty the storage bin to refill. You will have to raise the seat though. The fuel filler is behind the storage area, at a higher level, below the rear passenger seat.
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Just wondering the benefits and disadvantages of having a 12inch front and 10inch rear wheel setup (like in the activa 125). ?
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I spend last few days hunting for 90/100 10 tyres for my Suzuki Access.
Turns out most dealers have Dunlop and TVS in stock.
Ceat is out of stock and expected to come in a couple of days.
MRF is also out of stock.

Tubless tyres are discouraged by all dealers - one major shop told me that most rims become rusted inside and start losing air, so tubeless is not recommended.

Ceat GRIPP seems to be very good, but one dealer informed me that I should not use it on the front (and use it only on the rear). He explained on phone that there would be lot of wobbling if I use it on the front.

Ceat tyres are around 1200-1250 (only tyre). Tubeless tyre Ceat ZOOM D is around 1450 (there is only one option)

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There are advantages and drawbacks for both tubed and tubeless tyres. What you pick should be based on where your priorities lie and the kind of roads the scooter is primarily run on. Tubed tyres are more resistant to punctures (don't ask me how, this is from my experience). Moreover, if you land up with 4-5 punctures on a tubed tyre during the course of usage, just replace the tube and you're good to go. If the same thing happens on a tubeless tyre, the tyre is history. The major advantage of tubeless tyre is that you won't usually get stuck in the dead of night at some God foresaken place due to a flat tyre. Even if your tyre gets punctured, you can drive home safely and get it fixed the next day. Heck, you could even ride around for a couple of months by just topping up the air, blissfully unaware of the puncture. This is because you don't lose air immediately, as in the case of tubed tyres.

Rims rusting due to tubeless tyres is just some folk story cooked up by the dealer. Only thing, the rims need to be in good shape, else they will leak air and that will be a disaster. MRF or Ceat is what I would recommend, in that order. Avoid TVS tyres at any cost. The tread pattern on some tyres are designed only for the front/rear wheel. If this is interchanged, it could lead to wobbling, so the dealer could be right there.

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Just wondering the benefits and disadvantages of having a 12inch front and 10inch rear wheel setup (like in the activa 125). ?
Benefits are that the ride at front will be a lot better compared to those tiny 10 inchers treading into every bump and pothole. Moreover, if you want to have telescopic forks at front, 10 inchers are too small to give any sort of travel to the suspension. By using a larger dia tyre, the forks get more room to travel, and they neednt be made extra stiff.

Keeping rear tyre small is more of a design issue in the case of the Activa 125 since the previous Hondas have a 10inch tyre at the rear. Now if they had to plonk in a 12 incher there, the whole transmission assembly has to be redesigned which involves a lot of work. Instead, they just continued with the previous setup, that too since the rear suspension setup is pretty good and doesnt need a change IMO.
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Issue: on my 2010 Activa odometer stopped working. Finally after a few days of lethargic delay went to Khiranagar Santacruz meter repair shop on SV Road. For 200 Rs got the meter fixed. The shop repairs two and three wheeler meters. It is opposite to the petrol pump.

The meter repair was cheap ( the complete unit that a service centre quoted was almost 1k) but the opening and closing of the bay nearby costed me 200 Rs.

Moral of the story: get the meter removed from your regular shop who might do it for a very reasonable price and carry it loose to Khiranagar. Fix it and get it reinstalled!

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Keeping rear tyre small is more of a design issue in the case of the Activa 125 since the previous Hondas have a 10inch tyre at the rear. Now if they had to plonk in a 12 incher there, the whole transmission assembly has to be redesigned which involves a lot of work. Instead, they just continued with the previous setup, that too since the rear suspension setup is pretty good and doesnt need a change IMO.
Thanks for clarifying. Agree on the front tyre and in some ways my questions was more about having a different setup between front and rear, which you addressed in the latter half. I was just wondering if honda had an acceptable reason to do this, especially because now some other scooters (read:maestro edge) are also repeating this. Unfortunately, the reason feels more like a jugaad!
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Hello people,
I'm looking to buy a Top box for my VespaS125.
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However I plan is to use it also as a backrest for the driver (this one is a backrest for the pillion) during some long rides I plan to do on this scooter.
For using it as a backrest for the single driver, I should get the metal mount/fixture made separately-Which is not a big problem.

I saw this seller on ebay willing to ship to india. but it costs 18k without the mount.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Genuine-...-/381120757285

Its way too expensive I felt.
Any idea if we get something similar in India?

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Has anyone test ridden the Vespa VXL/SXL 150CC?. I am keen to buy one and yet to take a test ride. Vespa dealers in Chennai are a bit far away from my place so thought of checking out if any of our forum members tried their hands on them. Your feedback on them is welcome.
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Last weekend, got Ceat GRIPP tyres for my Suzuki Access. The cost with tube for two was Rs. 2950 + Rs. 40 installation outside.

Initially it felt like the handle was a bit heavy on the right, but now that feeling has minimized. Probably tyre needs few KM of running to even out.

The ride has improved by miles and the road noise is also less. The initial movement from standstill has become slower (I am aware of a clutch related problem on the scooter - which when fixed should make things better).
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I spend last few days hunting for 90/100 10 tyres for my Suzuki Access.

Tubless tyres are discouraged by all dealers - one major shop told me that most rims become rusted inside and start losing air, so tubeless is not recommended.
Sometime back, I replaced the rear tyre of my Mahindra Duro with a tubeless tyre. It shall be easily available. Just search at right places.

You shall not have problems with the tubeless unless your rim is bent.

I make it a point to check air pressure every 2-3 weeks. In my old tyre (which I replaced), I had only one puncture in 3.5 years. In the new tubeless tyre, no puncture since last 1 year.

The tyre dealer did not make it a point to return my old tyre after replacement. I too had forgot but I went back after 2 hours and collected the same. A roadside Anna gave me Rs. 150 for the old tyre.

Edit: I agree with what longhorn has said above. I bought tubeless considering that many times my wife drives the two wheeler and she shall not be stuck up due to flat tyre.

I also read that you already purchased the tyre. But do try tubeless in future, if its advantages are relevant to you.

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Recently purchased TVS Jupiter.

We already have a Mahindra Duro and a Hero Pleasure. All are good. Mahindra Duro has the largest storage space and the largest fuel tank (6.5 lit). It has good power delivery. Sturdy bike. Comfortable to sit (full size two wheeler), FE around 40. Average experience about service and availability of spares. Not so great. But not bad. Purchased in April 2011. Thinking of continuing with the bike for another 4-5 years.

Pleasure was purchased in Aug 2013; it is lighter to drive. FE around 45. Little smaller bike for a full grown normal sized adult. Not enough space on the footboard. Average experience about service and availability of spares. Rate equal to Duro. Minor issues faced in Pleasure were as as those faced with Duro. Fuel hose rupture, occasional starting trouble, ODO cable breakage, short OE battery life etc.

TVS Jupiter purchased in Oct 2015; it feels best to drive. So far completed two tankfulls, FE 45 and 50 respectively. Smoothest to drive. Adequate space on the footboard. Feels light to drive if I drive alone. If I have a pillion, the ride feels heavy on the steering and in this aspect, I find Pleasure better. The efforts at the dealership; professionalism and competence of the sales advisor was best at TVS. Bought from Shelar TVS.

Did not opt for extended warrantee and zero depreciation insurance.
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Tubless tyres are discouraged by all dealers - one major shop told me that most rims become rusted inside and start losing air, so tubeless is not recommended.
Recently changed my Suzuki Access tyres to MRF Nylogrip Zapper 90/100 R10 tubeless tyres, cost me Rs.3100 including the mouth. Since some time back Suzuki started offering tubeless tyres in Access and one of my rims was bent slightly, so got the rims (Has marking for tubeless tyres in them) changed from the Suzuki dealer. It cost me Rs.1040 including tax for two rims.
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Probably tyre needs few KM of running to even out.
Yes, you are correct. Just like running in a new engine is important, breaking in of new tyres in also important. Check out the below page from the Suzuki Access Owner's Manual.

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