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Old 27th January 2016, 13:54   #3601
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Hey i need a back up scooter for the bread and roti run. Don't want to take the big bike or the car out for that.

I'm 6' and a good 120 kgs so is there anything out there for the tall and large people?
I don't care about FE or costs, it needs to reliable, quick and not sound like a groaning fly.
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Hey i need a back up scooter for the bread and roti run. Don't want to take the big bike or the car out for that.

I'm 6' and a good 120 kgs so is there anything out there for the tall and large people?
I don't care about FE or costs, it needs to reliable, quick and not sound like a groaning fly.
@amitc7;

Test ride the Honda Aviator DLX with disc brakes. It will suit your requierments.
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Old 27th January 2016, 16:14   #3603
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I'm 6' and a good 120 kgs so is there anything out there for the tall and large people?
I don't care about FE or costs, it needs to reliable, quick and not sound like a groaning fly.
+1 to Aviator. Ridden it extensively and is nice for a tall person.

You can try Vespa too, it feels good to you. I'm 6ft and been using it for 3 years now.

Do note that I have legs hit the handlebar in case of Activa,Dio and Access. (These are the ones I've ridden)
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Hey i need a back up scooter for the bread and roti run. Don't want to take the big bike or the car out for that.

I'm 6' and a good 120 kgs so is there anything out there for the tall and large people?
I don't care about FE or costs, it needs to reliable, quick and not sound like a groaning fly.
If its only for the bread/roti pickup, why don't you get a second hand active or access? I have a Flyte and use it for the same reason as you mentioned. Its a 125cc engine and has got great pulling power.
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Old 27th January 2016, 19:53   #3605
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Cool, hows the ride comfort of the Ray on medium bad roads ? Is it comfortable being ridden two up ?
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Telescopic suspension means that ride quality is well sorted
Owning the Ray Z for nearly 2 years now. The ride comfort is quite good with 2 up riding. But solo, it is set up a bit stiff for bestowing it with that good handling that Ishaan has mentioned. Telescopic suspension reduces the fatigue in your arms and shoulders over bad roads and helps with the handling too. But the Yamaha suspension is set up stiffer compared to say a Jupiter/Wego (Have 2 Wegos in the family hence have experience riding them too).

You better stay away from the Activa as it is bulky, comes with age old suspension in the front(Except Activa 125DLX) and nothing apart from the Engine holds up well over time. Engine on my brother's activa even after 60k Kms was butter smooth with just regular maintenance but the plastics and the other metal bits did not hold up as well. Even the suspension almost felt non-existent even with all regular replacements etc. Hope this helps.
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Has anybody else noticed the disc brake version of TVS Wego being discontinued?
They have introduced Dual-tone Blue and Blue color schemes alright! But discontinued the Disc-brake option!
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Has anybody else noticed the disc brake version of TVS Wego being discontinued?
Not very surprised. I dont think it even sold in 2 digits while the normal Wego and now the Jupiter are selling in good numbers. In addition to that, there is a waiting period of nearly one month for the disc brake version. Even the sales advisers themselves were wary of selling it and recommending the junta to go for the normal version. Maybe they have decided to stop it altogether due to the poor sales. Or it might only be available on order basis. No harm in trying if you are interested in it. You might end up getting one if you are ready to wait.
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Can someone tell what should be the right selling price of an Activa HET Deluxe in Faridabad (Haryana), with below details.

November 2013, 13k kms clocked, white colour. Engine is butter smooth, electricals and other components are fine. Both tyres will last for some 10k kms, but bodyline condition is less than average. I have had a few crashes and the scooter has taken lots of scratches over time (i.e. around 3 or 4 out of 10 condition). I have service records upto 5000 kms, after which I have done oil and filter changes twice. Best part is FE, which hovers between 45-50 kmpl mark.

What would be a good price? I will sell it off in August this year, and will get a WagonR CNG.

EDIT - Used price check thread was for cars only, that is why I am posting here.
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Fuel gauge in my Activa stopped working today. I took a close look and found that inside the fuel tank, there is a floating ball like structure (which floats over petrol level normally) which is not functioning and was all the way down. I pulled it up and the fuel gauge worked for that moment.

Is there a way to correct it as a DIY or I need to show it to the mechanic? Did a full tank also going by a petrol pump guy's advice but didn't work.

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Fuel gauge in my Activa stopped working today. I took a close look and found that inside the fuel tank, there is a floating ball like structure (which floats over petrol level normally) which is not functioning and was all the way down. I pulled it up and the fuel gauge worked for that moment.

Is there a way to correct it as a DIY or I need to show it to the mechanic? Did a full tank also going by a petrol pump guy's advice but didn't work.
Yes, seems like the float mechanism has conked off. A job for the mechanic, I'm afraid. (although- admittedly, it can be done as a DIY)

For cars atleast- the fuel gauge works in quite a simple manner. There is a float, usually made of foam, which is connected to a thin, metal rod. The end of the rod is mounted to a variable resistor. The more resistance there is, the less current will flow. In a fuel tank, the variable resistor consists of a strip of resistive material connected on one side to the ground.

A thingamabob connected to the gauge slides along this strip of material, conducting the current from the gauge to the resistor. If this thingy is close to the grounded side of the strip, there is less resistive material in the path of the current, so the resistance is small. If the thingy is at the other end of the strip, there is more resistive material in the current's path, so the resistance is large.

When the float is near the top of the tank, the thingy on the variable resistor rests close to the grounded (negative) side, which means that the resistance is small and a relatively large amount of current passes through the sending unit back to the fuel gauge. As the level in the tank drops, the float sinks, the thingy moves, the resistance increases and the amount of current sent back to the gauge decreases.

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In your case, as the float is not working properly- it will probably be a five minute job at the nearest HASS. However, admittedly such finicky quality issues and assorted niggles have NEVER taken place in my 2003 Honda Dio.

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Old 1st February 2016, 23:40   #3611
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Fuel gauge in my Activa stopped working today. I took a close look and found that inside the fuel tank, there is a floating ball like structure (which floats over petrol level normally) which is not functioning and was all the way down. I pulled it up and the fuel gauge worked for that moment.
If the float does not float, it needs to be replaced. It looks to be a hollow float, which is no more floating because of some puncture in it.

And two wheeler float will not be costly to replace. It will be hassle free to replace it than a DIY job.
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Thanks for the help. It seems like I will have to replace the float as it is not floating but sits at the bottom. I will get it replaced soon or maybe a DIY if I get to know the procedure as I have dismantled the scooter to bits many times!
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I did (or tried to) do a few test rides of scooters this past Sunday, with wifey. Planned to visit Honda, Yamaha and TVS showrooms, in that order.

First stop MyWings Honda, Paud Road. It was closed. :| . I mean who keeps a showroom closed on sunday evening ?

Next came Spirit Yamaha, which was open, and more on that later.

Our last visit was to Shelar TVS, again in Kothrud. The experience was pathetic to say the least. When we walked in, there were no customers, but a lot of (what looked like) salespeople mulling around. With no assistance forthcoming from anyone, I walked to the reception and told them I was interested in checking out scooters. A guy standing there simply pointed to a parked Wego, Jupiter, Zest inside the showroom disinterestedly told us that "price list is put up on the wall". D'uh. Nobody was even interested in talking to us. Exasperated, I asked them if we had shown up at the wrong time and if the showroom was supposed to be closed on Sunday. No response to that either. Having had enough, I simply walked out of there. Sorry Shelar TVS/ TVS , you are so not going to get my business. Pity, since I am hearing so much about Jupiter being a competent scooter.

When we walked into Spirit Yamaha , we were welcomed by a smiling salesperson. There were other customers in the showroom, all were being attended to. He was quick to show the three scooters they had (RayZ, Alpha, Fascino), and asked us if we wanted to have a test ride.
We took a longish test ride of all the scooters available with them.

RayZ : Wifey was in the saddle first, and I was pillion. It looked kinda smaller than I expected. As a pillion , space for me seemed similar to a smaller scooter like Scooty Pep. The power seemed fine. When it was time to switch seats , and I found the footboard area to be quite small as well. The acceleration , braking and ride were all found to be adequate. Wifey ruled out RayZ because of its looks and she wants something a bit more "substantial" in its girth. Price is approximately 57k On road Pune.

Alpha : First thought : Its long! The pillion seat is longer than I was expecting. With two of us on board, there was easily space for a third similar sized adult, LOL. The brakes on this particular sample seemed worn out, though engine was in fine nick. Good space under the seat, and can take my full sized helmet. It looks dull though, and has nothing distinctive about it, style wise. And for that reason, its not shortlisted. Costs 60k approximately on road Pune.

Fascino : Nice looks! Underseat storage has the capacity to swallow a full sized helmet. There is a cubbyhole below the handle to keep nickknacks or a phone. I was half expecting a charger as well. As a pillion, I felt the seat was nice and wide, similar to a full sized scooter. It had a refined exhaust note and felt peppier than the other two, maybe because it was newer. Wifey was really gunning it, and it reached 60kmph quite easily. The scooter had a "feel good" factor to it when riding, maybe it was equipped with grippy handlebar covers and a nice footboard mat. They are not a part of the standard package. The lady is bowled over by its looks and feel. It costs 63,490 On road Pune without any accessories, has a 650 Rs "standard fitment" and 700 Rs "handling charges" component too. This is top of our shortlist right now, in equal parts due to its looks and positive showroom experience. It is readily available with the dealers in all colors.

Purchase decision is not yet final because I really want to check out other scooters (and mainly, their prices) first.
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I did (or tried to) do a few test rides of scooters this past Sunday, with wifey. Planned to visit Honda, Yamaha and TVS showrooms, in that order.

Purchase decision is not yet final because I really want to check out other scooters (and mainly, their prices) first.
You might also want to check out TVS and Honda scooters. Jupiter is better than Wego, but in case your better half is not much experienced/not able to handle larger size (& weight) you can get the Wego also. Jupiter is a mix of many scooters already present in market, good thing is that it takes +ves of many scooters along with it but is not as sportier and good handler as the Activa, though it is better than Wego.

Honda product range is good but does not hold up well over a longer duration of time. For instance, after 50k kms, the only part you will feel like-new in a Honda scooter is the engine. But if your running is low and you want quality-first, go for an Aviator or Activa 125. The former is less chuckable in traffic and is an older product. Activa-i and 3G (? ) don't get telescopic forks at front, which makes riding them in traffic horrible. The front tends to glide up when front brakes are applied due to conventional suspension setup. Activa 125 is a good all-rounder, new product, same trusted formula, better and smoother engine (than TVS or Yamaha) and decent build quality.

I would rate these 4 (Activa and Aviator I have, and the other 2 I have used extensively) as follows -

1. Activa 125
2. Jupiter
3. Aviator = Wego

Hope this will help you make a better decision.

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Thanks for the help. It seems like I will have to replace the float as it is not floating but sits at the bottom.
The fuel gauge was not working and float was also stuck at the bottom (1 or 2 tugs made it work). Got fuel gauge replaced with another OE part from a trusted aftermarket shop. Cost was 320 bucks. Now everything works fine.

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