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Old 22nd January 2013, 20:15   #31
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Oils Well That Ends Well, Part 1
Part One: What is motor oil really made of?
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Who is the JASO?
The motorcycle OEMs felt that lower levels of phosphorous and the introduction of more friction modifiers (aimed at higher fuel economy in cars) was not in the best interest of motorcycle engines.
What are these friction modifiers? They are for increasing friction or for decreasing friction?
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Friction modifiers decrease friction.
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I think that this is the right thread for my motorcycle engine oil query.
I am confused between the same engine oil Motul 5100 4T-15W50 that is sold in two differently designed bottle's by MOTUL.
Kindly some one help me to identify the Original one out of the two.
Both the pictures are attached below!
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Moderators kindly move this query to appropriate threadif its wrongly posted out here.
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Old 27th October 2013, 23:33   #34
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Motul 5100 4T-15W50
Just do not check SAE specifications. Also check API & JASO ratings also and follow your owner’s manual accordingly.
In above two pics first one is newer marked MA2 ( which means JASO MA2 standards).

Check out the back side of both bottles and find the difference in API/ JASO specifications.
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Thank you for your concern and help sir but I have one more query! Can I or should I add 3M Engine Oil Plus (engine oil additive) to this Motul 5100-4T 15W50 oil? Will it help or is it contraindicated as I had read some where that semi-synthetic and synthetic engine oil should not be mixed with any additives? Please do let me know if I should or not add this 3M Engine Oil additive and it's pro's and con's!
Thanks in advance!
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3M Engine Oil Plus (engine oil additive)
I do not have any personal experience (because my oil change time occurs earlier than required kms & no authorized dealer in my city of known additive company). Google (search) team-bhp and you may find some short reviews on various additives from car owners.
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My advice is never add an aftermarket oil additive of any kind to a quality oil like Motul 5100.

Modern motorcycle oils have been made to fully satisfy the needs of the modern motorcycle engine, clutch and transmission and further additions are a waste of money.
Quality modern oils are developed and tested by the maker by engineers who strive to deliver oils that provide everything needed by a engine, clutch and transmission.

Not only are aftermarket additives a waste of money but they can cause damage to things like the wet plate clutches that many motorcycles use.

They also may nullify the goodness of the additives the oil maker has put into the oil to prevent oxidation, foaming, viscosity stabilization, thermal breakdown and a host of other things you paid for when you bought the oil.

I suggest it is better to spend the money up front by buying a high quality oil and forget the additives.
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I am confused between the same engine oil Motul 5100 4T-15W50 that is sold in two differently designed bottle's by MOTUL.

Kindly some one help me to identify the Original one out of the two.
Both the pictures are attached below!
I guess the first picture is the update with a better specification meeting to all countries so that 'MA2' addition over the second picture. Both the bottles are original and no issues if you use either of them. I use the same oil in my Karizma R (Second picture).

And please NO ADDITIVES. Let the engine oil that is formulated after so much R&D do it's work, why spoil its function by adding additives.

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My advice is never add an aftermarket oil additive of any kind to a quality oil like Motul 5100.

Modern motorcycle oils have been made to fully satisfy the needs of the modern motorcycle engine, clutch and transmission and further additions are a waste of money.

Quality modern oils are developed and tested by the maker by engineers who strive to deliver oils that provide everything needed by a engine, clutch and transmission.
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Time for servicing of my Yamaha Libero (2005). Servicing almost after 2 years, and 6000kms run !!
Overhauling Engine oil, apart from Spark Plugs, etc.

Recommended Engine Oil as per owner's manual:

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However I want to go for the best of the oil, since my running is low, within a 5 km radius. Plus, multiple starts and stops. I understand that the recommended oil is a Mineral Oil. However, I am open to Semi-Synthetic or Synthetic oil.

Upon extensively Google-ing, found the below recommendations:

1) Yamalube 20W40 - Mineral
2) Motul 5100 10W40 - Semi synthetic
3) Motul 3000 4T Plus 20w40 - Synthetic

Which one amongst the three is the best ?
Any other recommendations is highly appreciated !

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Upon extensively Google-ing, found the below recommendations:

1) Yamalube 20W40 - Mineral
2) Motul 5100 10W40 - Semi synthetic
3) Motul 3000 4T Plus 20w40 - Synthetic
I choose Motul 3000 of the lot. Been using that oil in both my Unicorn (2006 - 2009) & HH Karizma (2009 - till date).

Sometimes if there is lack of stock I go ahead with Motul 5100.

All in all it is Motul that i choose for my bike.

I have a similar running for my Karizma currently. It is hardly driven. May be used once or twice in 2-3 weeks. Rest time it is idle in the garage.
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I choose Motul 3000 of the lot. Been using that oil in both my Unicorn (2006 - 2009) & HH Karizma (2009 - till date).
Sometimes if there is lack of stock I go ahead with Motul 5100.
Thanks so much for the clear choice ! Makes it easier and clear for me. Is Motul available easily across automobile spare parts store ? Or should I try the online way ?
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Thanks so much for the clear choice ! Makes it easier and clear for me. Is Motul available easily across automobile spare parts store ? Or should I try the online way ?
The Motul 3000 that I buy is regularly available. Not an issue. Sometimes it isn't available. JC Road should have stocks - No doubt!
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I choose Motul 3000 of the lot. Been using that oil in both my Unicorn (2006 - 2009) & HH Karizma (2009 - till date)
Sorry to bump an old thread.

Can you please share the oil change interval which you have been following?

I have been using Motul (Yamaha Gladiator) and find that within 3000 kms the shifting becomes rough (the manual recommends 2000 kms oil change, BTW)
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Sorry to bump an old thread.

Can you please share the oil change interval which you have been following?

I have been using Motul (Yamaha Gladiator) and find that within 3000 kms the shifting becomes rough (the manual recommends 2000 kms oil change, BTW)
If I may, which Motul oil are you using? The 5100? If the manual recommends oil change interval at 2000kms, then I feel you are better off doing that than trying to source an oil to increase the drain interval. Air cooled engines, in general in vast majority of cases cannot fully exploit the benefits provided by a fully synthetic oil. These are better suited to Liquid cooled engines. Even in liquid cooled engines, it is recommended to change oil every 6000kms. So it is best to stick to manufacturer recommended oil change interval. I was using the Motul 5100 20W40 oil in my RTR160/180. It would last for 2000kms after which you would know that the bike needs an oil change.
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Sorry to bump an old thread.

Can you please share the oil change interval which you have been following?
I maintained an interval of either 2000 kms and 6months whichever is earlier.

I had very low running on my Karizma so mostly oil was changed every 6 months irrespective of the usage.

I have never crossed the 2000 kms mark between oil changes when my running used to be high.
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