Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Motorbikes


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 4th September 2008, 22:49   #46
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 218
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
All SBK's have the same 10W-40 rating as well. When the weather gets really cold oil tends to lose its viscosity and becomes hard. In the same manner, when it gets really hot (along with engine heat) the oil tends to become thinner. The '40' in 10W-40 is the viscosity. So 10W-50 is thicker oil.

SBK manuals also have this graph that guides you to the grade according to weather.

The oil change intervals depend on the manner you ride and also how often you ride. Which bike do you ride?
I have an old bucket of rust Avenger 180 cheers: Bajaj build quality showing its wonders!

Most of my riding is inside the city obviously cant do anything more 50KM with so much traffic.


muneemmk
This is the best decision you have come to lol.
Gregory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 00:00   #47
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: goa
Posts: 1,065
Thanked: 51 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
That's not true. Manson is using Magnatec in his Thunderace since a year now. Its rating is 10W-40 which is what the manufacturers suggest by default for SBK's.
Hey does your thunderace have a wet clutch or dry plate system? castrol magnetic does create clutch slippage in pulsar.

@Gerogy, I forgot to mention I used full synthetic Mobil1 and shell advance is fully synthetic as well, read the change interval given by Mobil1 for that oil...you'll understand.The oil cost around RS650 a liter , the interval given by bike maker in India is for the regular oils. They do not give a interval for synthetic oil.

Last edited by dinar : 5th September 2008 at 00:05.
dinar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 00:06   #48
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: KL 01
Posts: 4,334
Thanked: 2,047 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Born 2 Be Wild View Post
Sankar As far as i know Magnatec is a 40 grade oil the specs are 10w40,so is it ok to use it in the bullet as the specified grade for the bullet is 20w50.

How was your experience in using magnatec for the bullet? Which OIl would you reccomend for the BUllet.

Regards
Once upon a time Magnatec was available in 50 grade. Now it seems they have stopped the 50 grade.

In Bangalore i was quite satisfied with 40 grade oil on my Bullet, once i shifted to Kerala i have switched to normal 50 grade oil as the climate is hotter. But i'm using 10W30 oil in the clutch case (recommended grade by factory) unlike 50 or 40 which mechs normally use.

I don't recommend any oil for the Bullet. I have used syntheitc in it. But if you ask me Bullet needs proper scheduled oil changes rather than high tech oil. Any good 50 grade oil like Castrol/Elf should work fine. Really i didn't feel any great difference in Bullet's performance while using Syntetic and Mineral oil.
Sankar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 03:06   #49
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,288
Thanked: 89 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dinar View Post
Hey does your thunderace have a wet clutch or dry plate system?
There are hardly any bikes that run dry clutches these days.
straight6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 09:41   #50
Senior - BHPian
 
mithun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cochin
Posts: 1,916
Thanked: 42 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibm_jennifer View Post

Do I need to change the oil?
I would recommend you to change it since the oil is SAE 10W40 which is not the recommended spec. for Pulsar.
mithun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 10:09   #51
BHPian
 
bmw_m5_titus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: kottayam
Posts: 178
Thanked: 3 Times
Default

If its a p150, the specified rating is 20w40, but you can use 10w40 without any problems.
iirc, P180 and above have 20w50 rating for the oil. You can use any xW50 oil in that case.
bmw_m5_titus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 15:25   #52
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: India
Posts: 360
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by praful View Post
Plus its a __W50 oil so that makes it suitable only for the P180/200/220.
20W50 is beneficial in the high load, high temperature, stop-start usage that our air-cooled bikes have to suffer in Indian cities. The reason most manufacturers stick with W40 is cost (IMO).

I do not know where you get the idea that most of India has 'moderate' climate. The summer heat is terrible in MP, UP, Haryana, Gujrat, Rajasthan, NCR.......

Oil shouldn't be so complicated. Blah, just use the manufacturers / dealers' recommendation.
SuperSyn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th September 2008, 20:44   #53
BHPian
 
Born 2 Be Wild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DILLI
Posts: 372
Thanked: 117 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sankar View Post

I don't recommend any oil for the Bullet. I have used syntheitc in it. But if you ask me Bullet needs proper scheduled oil changes rather than high tech oil. Any good 50 grade oil like Castrol/Elf should work fine. Really i didn't feel any great difference in Bullet's performance while using Syntetic and Mineral oil.
Sankar thanks For the honest opinion,its hard to come by these days!!
I think i would stick to the regular oil changes and a decent 50 grade like
Catrol Gtx.

Regards
Born 2 Be Wild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th September 2008, 08:42   #54
Distinguished - BHPian
 
phamilyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 5,496
Thanked: 2,964 Times
Default

For the iron bullets, from my understanding with some leading bullet guys (very exp guys who own workshops), its the freq of oil change - they prefer to use servo for the simple reason that it can be changed regularly anywhere. Else that gent used to have the simple Veedol HDB 50 (single grade, NOT multi grade).
phamilyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th July 2009, 11:31   #55
BHPian
 
fireblade007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Kollam
Posts: 139
Thanked: 47 Times
Default

Is there anybody using motul 300V Fl synthetic for honda unicorn. How is the engine smoothness while using that oil. Is there any clutch slippage?
fireblade007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2010, 21:01   #56
BHPian
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Mumbai/BLR/USA
Posts: 918
Thanked: 173 Times
Default

Shell was offering a fully synthetic oil at a price of Rs.810 /Lt , the oil seems to be imported from Malaysia. The pricing seems to be quite steep hence decided to go in for the mineral blend ,Shell Advance S4, cost Rs 205/- @ Bangalore. Shell offered a free oil change which was quite well done, I was also told that the waste oil will be collected recycled by Shell, felt quite good that the waste oil will not pollute the environment.

I was using the normal Honda recommended oil till date, till now haven't felt much of a difference with respect to smoothness & noise levels, sincerely I feel its quite early to comment on the quality of oil.
tj123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2010, 21:54   #57
Senior - BHPian
 
DRIV3R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: India
Posts: 1,545
Thanked: 748 Times
Default

Nothing comes close to MOTUL 300V FL when it comes to 4T oils for bikes.

It's imported from France, green in color and smells chewing gum.

Very smooth engine, gearbox and phenomenal clutch performance. Should last atleast 4k kms.
DRIV3R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th September 2010, 22:04   #58
Senior - BHPian
 
Gansan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chennai
Posts: 3,391
Thanked: 831 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tj123 View Post
decided to go in for the mineral blend ,Shell Advance S4, cost Rs 205/- @ Bangalore. Shell offered a free oil change which was quite well done, I was also told that the waste oil will be collected recycled by Shell, felt quite good that the waste oil will not pollute the environment.
I too changed to Shell advance for my Splendor last week. Basically wanted to try a 20W40 oil as opposed to the 10w30 used at Hero Honda workshops, as the bike has crossed 85k KM. They did the oil change very very nicely (how I wish the MASS guys also do it like that, without me sitting on their necks!) and the bike feels the same as of now. Will be able to tell any difference only after a few weeks.

After the oil change, a local mechanic showed me a 20W50 oil from Bajaj. It has to be purchases from Bajaj A.S.S and costs Rs 300 per litre. I may shift to that for the next change.
Gansan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2010, 00:51   #59
BHPian
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: .
Posts: 469
Thanked: 107 Times
Default

Castrol Activ Xtra - 20W-50. 3-4k Max or 30 to 60 days Max. Alteast for lowtech HH splendor.
YaeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th September 2010, 07:55   #60
Senior - BHPian
 
Gansan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chennai
Posts: 3,391
Thanked: 831 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YaeJay View Post
Castrol Activ Xtra - 20W-50. 3-4k Max or 30 to 60 days Max. Alteast for lowtech HH splendor.
Care to elaborate the highlighted part? I will not touch any oil that will not last at least 4 months (or 4k kms) with top-ups. And Castrol is well known for fakes.
Gansan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil GTO On modifying a car 4581 24th November 2016 10:32
What happens to the engine oil when the Oil cap and/or dipstick is opened? D.V.R Technical Stuff 29 19th September 2016 17:35
Best Oil Flush - Best Procedure? cyneverdie Technical Stuff 29 19th November 2012 14:07
best gear oil & best coolant & best engine decarb: please cyneverdie Technical Stuff 7 19th October 2007 03:57


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 22:56.

Copyright 2000 - 2016, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks