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Old 23rd August 2008, 11:45   #16
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Sankar,

This is how the Pirelli looks

Attachment 41371

It was around 110 but not exactly 110 need to find out from someone.
Pirelli SD comes in 110/90/18,
130/70/18,
140/70/18

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Pradeep, thanks for the updates man. I'm waiting for the pics of the IRC. Can you post a pic of the Sirac too? Yep i agree with you, M45 is a bit small for the ZMA.

Edit: I saw the pics now Thanks pal!

Akshay, i will be using the bike mostly on tarmac, but tarmac in this part of the world means broken and bad at many places with occasional hazards like sand and debris on it. Can you give me a link to the KRP website? I wish to check out those tyres. Does fitting Ceat Rage warrant cutting/removal of chain guard?
You need to remove chain cover if tyre size is 120/90/18 or above
120/80 does not require removal of chain cover.

a 90/90 tubeless and 110/90 tubeless rear is the best bet for a zma.
Tubeless is the way to go,I can vouch for tubeless tyres as complete peace of mind after riding over 50K kms and never ever had to stop for a flat.

KRP does not have a website,you can check tread pattern of tyres over google. If you need I can give you their contact number

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Techno.. you again put me into confusion

The front tyre posted by Pradeep looks very good. Pirelli SD looks right for the rear. I think i'll decide on this combo! IRC front tyre tread design compliments Pirelli SD at the rear.

Pradeep is the Pirelli SD available in Blore?

Btw i did a research on IRC tyres yesterday, i remember the very first lot of KB125s came with IRC tyres my cousin had one, IRC is a Jap company so it should be good.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 11:55   #18
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Pirelli SD comes in 110/90/18,
Thanks Akshaye, this is size I believe

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Techno.. you again put me into confusion
Its a confusing world my friend

Trust me the grip is simply awesome Taking high speed curves becomes so much more easy(its easy anyways on ZMA but PSD makes it more easy)

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Pirellie SD 110/70 is very heavy and you will loose initial acceleration . It is good in the beginning and later as it wears out becomes square and tram lines a lot ,later you will fear to corner .Its a soft compound , tears up easily on sharp objects . Plus point is it is tubeless .

M45 4.00*18 , is medium to soft i would say , excellent cornering and all round performance . Its tube type , lighter than pirelli . Good offloading grip also . I like this .

I have used both the tires , running on 2nd M45 now ,due for one more replacement .

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Pirelli SD comes in 110/90/18,
130/70/18,
140/70/18

You need to remove chain cover if tyre size is 120/90/18 or above
120/80 does not require removal of chain cover.

KRP does not have a website,you can check tread pattern of tyres over google. If you need I can give you their contact number
So with the 110/90 18 PSD i don't have to remove the chaincover. Good

I found out the KRP website yesterday. Earlier they had it on xbhp now they have their own address.

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Pirellie SD 110/70 is very heavy and you will loose initial acceleration
Yes this is true & thats a compromise you have to make but then the tire makes it up by its superb grip & aide to handling

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Pirelli is hard to procure here in bangalore sankar, we have to do some hard core search around JC road.
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my personal suggestion would be the 110/90 not more the rim width of the Zma is not fit enough to take more than that!

even i have the same alloys on my unicorn and a 120/80 tyre at rear and i know this from experience.

i hear the tyre of R15 is made on special order from yamaha to mrf with a softer compound rubber its 100/90 but worth a shot to try or else the michelins can be bought, i believe the pirelli is old stock where ever i tried them so not worth it.

so the bottom like the widest on the zma rear alloy rim is 110/90 no more, the 120/80 with air pressures above 35 will literally have lesser contact path than a 3.00X18 tyre on this alloy, and hence of no use, and more over when you have a 120/80 tyre the best tyre pressure to maintain is 28 and that has other side effects like the side wall of the tyre going flat and hitting the alloy khut on the pot holes it needs at least 33 tyre pressure and that will ensure little contact path on the road and bad ride quality so not worth.

these are my observations
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Hehehe.... i just realised that my old Honda CB750 had Pirelli Sport Demon at it's rear end

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Pradeep, couple of years ago a friend had bought the PSD in Blore. I'll ask him from where he bought the tyre.

rider60, i'm not going over 110 section with my tyre selection. Rim width is an issue as you had mentioned.

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i hear the tyre of R15 is made on special order from yamaha to mrf with a softer compound rubber its 100/90 but worth a shot to try or else the michelins can be bought, i believe the pirelli is old stock where ever i tried them so not worth it.
R15 tyres are 17 inch no doubt they are one of the stickiest tyres in the market
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even i have the same alloys on my unicorn
Unicorn has different alloys they are 5 spoke ones while the ZMA has 6 spoke alloys.

Sankar: lol so you too downgrading
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CBF Stunner has 17" wheels. And from the looks of it i believe that it can be transplanted on to the Karizma if required, after that 17" MRF R15 chewing gum can be fitted

Yep Techno, i've downgraded, the biggest mobike i had was my very first mobike
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Unicorn has different alloys they are 5 spoke ones while the ZMA has 6 spoke alloys.

Sankar: lol so you too downgrading

no no no, i know but mine is a version 2 uni and i personally bought the zma alloys and have them on my uni with that bigger front disk too, check out my gallery soon for the pics they will be up in a day or two.

and the hero honda have the five spoke one the bajaj, tvs, hondas have the 6 spokes mate. the other have other designs mate.

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R15 tyres are 17 inch no doubt they are one of the stickiest tyres in the market
okay i thought this was 18inch, so sorry for the wrong suggestion.




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CBF Stunner has 17" wheels. And from the looks of it i believe that it can be transplanted on to the Karizma if required, after that 17" MRF R15 chewing gum can be fitted

Yep Techno, i've downgraded, the biggest mobike i had was my very first mobike

wont you need to look for a disk brake mods at the front too as the 18" at front would really mean bad handling?

and more over when you buy tyres i sure you will look for the month/week/year of manufacturing, please do that, for i strongly believe the pirellies are old stock at least the ones i came across here in Hyd were old stock ( hey arent the pirelli's in India made by the CEAT guys? if you really want them, try contacting one of the ceat guys and i think you would have some info on the availability of the new stocK).

the michelins i found were relatively quiet new ones.

and yes i for to mention i have zapper-Q 120/80 tyres.

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Why do you want to put a 17 incher in ZMA????

My bikes have been quite random (see my signature)
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I'm not going to put 17" on my ZMA! It was just a thought. And 17" will shorten the gearing and i've heard changing sprockets is tough on ZMA due to the odd chain configuration.

Techno please try to stay at 150 or above
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