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Old 4th January 2013, 17:12   #136
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Nothing. Just put a brighter bulb. Plug and play
Finally changed the bulb to Philips xtreme - vision. Got it for Rs.500 from GP road. Changed the pilot lamps to LEDs.
Have to test it tonight. The only issue till now is that when the headlamp is on and the bike is in idle, the battery indicator starts to blink after a couple of minutes. Have to switch it off on signals i guess. Apart from this no issues.
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[quote=ashwin.terminat;2995977]Good place actually, can personally vouch for it.

I had got my bike converted to DC from here around 4 months ago. No issues whatsoever. Very transparent in his work and very friendly.

I have a Std Bullet and looking for a DC conversion. My question is whether this is an activity that can be done in a walkin kind of mode or do i have to leave the bike and come back later? If you PM his contact will be really helpful
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Finally changed the bulb to Philips xtreme - vision. Got it for Rs.500 from GP road. Changed the pilot lamps to LEDs.
Have to test it tonight. The only issue till now is that when the headlamp is on and the bike is in idle, the battery indicator starts to blink after a couple of minutes. Have to switch it off on signals i guess. Apart from this no issues.
The battery indication is because the bulb draws more power . You did a good thing by changing the pilot bulbs to LED's. You have saved 10W right away.This can compensate the extra drawing of power from the main bulb. But technically speaking, the battery light should not come up since the extra draw is now 55-35 ie 20.And LED consumes negligible power.

How old is your battery? If it is not maintenance free battery then i recommend getting it checked for specific gravity and top up of distilled water from a nearest battery store.


And do post your experience with the extra light!
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I have a Std Bullet and looking for a DC conversion. My question is whether this is an activity that can be done in a walkin kind of mode or do i have to leave the bike and come back later? If you PM his contact will be really helpful
Mine was a walk in. It takes a while, mine took a good 6 hours I think. He doesn't mind you hanging around and asking him questions, he's more than willing to answer. His name is Kennedy, his contact number is +919945138274. I suggest you call him once before you land up at his workshop. Would avoid you having to come back again in case he's busy.
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You have to replace the bulb holder with a good quality (H4 P43t) from an accessory shop, no need of ceramic holder. Also, get rid of the TVS bulb, it must be heating a lot, try to get something from Philips or Osram or even Bosch generic type which will set you back by less than 100. Been with Philips 55/60W on my Pulsar for more than 3 years and there was no trace of over heating on the holder or the reflector. But once I started using the 100/90W, the reflector got melted but the stock holder was perfect condition.
Thanks Sajjt. I replaced the melted holder with an H4 holder and used 55w/60 H4 Halonix bulb which came as OE for santro xing. No issues till now. Will test this on a long ride when i come to cochin next week.
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The battery indication is because the bulb draws more power . You did a good thing by changing the pilot bulbs to LED's. You have saved 10W right away.This can compensate the extra drawing of power from the main bulb. But technically speaking, the battery light should not come up since the extra draw is now 55-35 ie 20.And LED consumes negligible power.

How old is your battery? If it is not maintenance free battery then i recommend getting it checked for specific gravity and top up of distilled water from a nearest battery store.


And do post your experience with the extra light!
The battery is a little over three years old now. Haven't changed it since i got the bike. Will check it out at a battery store ASAP.

What would be a good replacement battery? Heard good reviews about Amaron Alpha. Are there any other SMF batteries that i should look at? Does it make sense to hunt for higher AH than the current one (9AH).

On the experience, the low beam spread is very good. There is more usable light for sure, have to get the beam through adjusted though. High beam for some reason is on a long throw. Couldn't concentrate much on the light with the battery light blinking

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The battery is a little over three years old now. Haven't changed it since i got the bike. Will check it out at a battery store ASAP.

What would be a good replacement battery? Heard good reviews about Amaron Alpha. Are there any other SMF batteries that i should look at? Does it make sense to hunt for higher AH than the current one (9AH).

On the experience, the low beam spread is very good. There is more usable light for sure, have to get the beam through adjusted though. High beam for some reason is on a long throw. Couldn't concentrate much on the light with the battery light blinking
Your battery wont be needing a replacement right away if the specific gravity is good and if all the cells and in working condition. Top up distilled water and run for some 20 odd kms for it to get back to its optimum working condition.

Yesterday, i changed my pulsar's battery to Amaron Alpha with 4 years warranty(2 years replacement + 2 years pro-rata) for 1600 bucks .Its a fully maintainence free battery with no distilled water top up required!.
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Your battery wont be needing a replacement right away if the specific gravity is good and if all the cells and in working condition. Top up distilled water and run for some 20 odd kms for it to get back to its optimum working condition.

Yesterday, i changed my pulsar's battery to Amaron Alpha with 4 years warranty(2 years replacement + 2 years pro-rata) for 1600 bucks .Its a fully maintainence free battery with no distilled water top up required!.
Have checked it with a battery shop yesterday. The distilled water required a top-up. The guy in the store said the battery is still good, but as it is well past its life, change it after it starts giving problems(read "no need to replace it immediately"). Rode it for about 10-15 kms. Now it takes longer for the battery indicator to show up when the revs are below 3k. There are no issues right now, cold starts in the morning happen without any fuss.

Im thinking of letting it run for a while, will change it once it starts showing any issues.

Light throw is pretty good, now i can see the road even when there is dazzling high beams in front of me. Low beam spread is so good and long that high beam is seldom needed.
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I got my Bikes Electrical work done in Marina Auto Electricals in Shivaji Nagar Bangalore.
The quest to get more lumens began when I had a '97 Escort Yamaha RXG from 2001 to 2004. Got the stator re-winded and regulator/rectifier upgraded in Ruby Auto Electrics in 2002. Although the folks at Ruby said that would give me a 55/60 Watt head light but it was somewhat close 40/45Watt. It worked without any issues till I sold the bike in 2004.
Then came the TVS Apache in 2005. It was having a 90 watt alternator with an 7 pole stator. After riding it for 2 yrs same desire to have more lumens surfaced again. By that time Apache RTR 180 was launched, which had 8 pole stator and 108 watt alternator. What I had on mind was to go for 100/90 watt. However it was impeding the fact even if I upgrade the stator to RTR's I am going to get just more 18 watts so optimally I can use 40/45watt Headlight and 55/60watt with some compromise.

Quest continued and came across http://www.alliedauto.org/index.htm . Although they appeared very promising over a few phone discussion but dropped the idea and decided to go Ruby Auto Electricals way.

That time only, one of my friend was looking for a made to order shoes place and I ended up with him in Shivaji Nagar. Just opposite I noticed a shop Marina Auto Electricals. A short discussion with person in the shop (Do'nt remember his name) made me gain my trust. He was familiar with the technology and was'nt just a tom dick harry type of electrician. Only challenge was that his work experience was limited to Auto Rickshaws ( All types of including converting them DC/Stator rewinding and getting some dinchak music system in place) but had no experience on Motorcycle. After thoroughly assessing his knowledge I was almost sure what I want. Then came the price check point, Ruby quoted 1200 Rs for the work and Marina Quoted 650 including stator rewinding and fixing up the regulator rectifier.

So one fine day afternoon ( As requested by the shop folks, wanted to check the light performance in the evening ) I reached the Marina Auto Electricals. They were quite excited to see me as that was their maiden project on a bike and a very co-operative customer. Initial plan was to rewind the old stator and work on the regulator/rectifier. But after discussion and close proximity to Bangalore's famous "Gujri " I ended up buying a used TVS RTR 180 8 Pole stator for around 100 Rs . Later same was rewinded with thicker gauge and checked with 4-5 regulator /rectifier units for optimum performance with 100/90 Watt Philips bulb. Finally we concluded on re-winded 8 pole stator+Original TVS Apache 150 Regulator/Rectifier+100/90 Watt Philips Rally Extreme bulb.

Stock head light of 35/35 watt was giving a stedy beam over and above 2000 RPM the upgraded setting is giving the same 2500-3000 RPM. (Quite Acceptable) . That came with 6 months warranty for the work done.
I am running current configuration of re-winded 8 pole stator+ Original TVS Apache 150 Regulator/Rectifier+100/90 Watt Philips Rally Extreme bulb for last 4 yrs without any issues with very nice Headlight beam and spread ( No reflector burning or Holder issues) .

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Your battery wont be needing a replacement right away if the specific gravity is good and if all the cells and in working condition. Top up distilled water and run for some 20 odd kms for it to get back to its optimum working condition.

Yesterday, i changed my pulsar's battery to Amaron Alpha with 4 years warranty(2 years replacement + 2 years pro-rata) for 1600 bucks .Its a fully maintainence free battery with no distilled water top up required!.
Just noticed another issue. The Digital Speedo has started acting up. It keeps fluctuating some 20km/h + or - while riding on steady speed. The SC guys told either the Sensor or the cable gone bad. Have to check when i leave for service. Not sure if the guy who fitted the bulb have messed it.

Also after changing the Pilots to LED, it looks awkward. LEDS throw white light and HL throws yellow. How good is Philips Crystal vision? Wanted to try this before going back to Stock pilot lamps. Philips CV comes in the exact same wattage range(60/55), read somewhere it is just as same as Xtreme Vision with just a Blue tinted glass, hence light throw might be slightly lesser.
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Just noticed another issue. The Digital Speedo has started acting up. It keeps fluctuating some 20km/h + or - while riding on steady speed. The SC guys told either the Sensor or the cable gone bad. Have to check when i leave for service. Not sure if the guy who fitted the bulb have messed it.

Also after changing the Pilots to LED, it looks awkward. LEDS throw white light and HL throws yellow. How good is Philips Crystal vision? Wanted to try this before going back to Stock pilot lamps. Philips CV comes in the exact same wattage range(60/55), read somewhere it is just as same as Xtreme Vision with just a Blue tinted glass, hence light throw might be slightly lesser.
The speedo reading mismatch is mostly not related to bulb. It can be sensor or cable as service center has said.

It depends on what is your priority. If light brightness is your priorities then quick to current bulb. The crystal vision can not match your current bulb in any way.

If matching looks are your priority then you may change.
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Guys .
I have a 2008 Pulsar 200, and was thinking about upgrading the headlights .
Wanted to check , if i can put in the 55/60 H4 bulb that i have taken out of my car in-place of the stock 35/35 W bulb.
Also is there any need of separate relay or something, like we do when we upgrade the headlamp of cars .

Looking @ the previous posts, looks like it can be a simple plug and play, but didn't see any post related to Pulsar 200, so wanted to confirm .

Please advise .

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Guys .
I have a 2008 Pulsar 200, and was thinking about upgrading the headlights .
Wanted to check , if i can put in the 55/60 H4 bulb that i have taken out of my car in-place of the stock 35/35 W bulb.
Also is there any need of separate relay or something, like we do when we upgrade the headlamp of cars .

Looking @ the previous posts, looks like it can be a simple plug and play, but didn't see any post related to Pulsar 200, so wanted to confirm .

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If I remember correctly, the lighting of the Pulsar 200 is full DC, so a simple plug and play should do the job.
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If I remember correctly, the lighting of the Pulsar 200 is full DC, so a simple plug and play should do the job.
I second that. The electricals are similar to the P180 UG4. I just upgraded, should be a basic plug and play like i did. Thanks to sagarpadaki
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I replaced the stock bulb on my TVS Wego with the Philips Xtreme 60/55 H4 bulb from my car. No changes done to any electricals whatsoever.
Now the throw in low beam is superb and quite wide and bright for a Scooter. I try not to go on high beam as this is extra bright and may end up blinding motorists.

I am on the stock battery which was 4 amp i guess. There were a couple of days when it was really cold in winter, I took out the scooter early in the morning, and it would stop if the accelerator did not give any input. I thought it would be because of the higher wattage lamp, which made the battery die down. But haven't faced the issue since. Even when I gave it for servicing a couple of days back, he did not report any problem.

Is there a need to go for a higher rated battery or a relay? My scooter was bought in April 2011. The replacement was done at the TVS service station itself. My two year warranty expires in April 2013.
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