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Old 13th May 2009, 09:52   #61
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Changing the bend pipe is a MUST to get the near original sound of the RE Bullet of yester years. Iam saying this bcoz I have changed just the silencer alone and got the 'sound' but not the perfect beat. it has a "whistling" noise with it.
My bullet specialist infact showed me a new bullet whose bend pipe and silencer both were changed and trust me IT SOUNDS PERFECT. I spend 750 for silencer. He said for changing the bend pipe and silencer (avg quality) would be just around 1200rs.
Yawn.

If you wanted only the thump with outdated overpriced parts, you should've gone for a second hand 1980 Enfield. You'd get the same engine and the same parts. In fact you could then rebuild your bike and added everything it lacked:

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Disc brake
Chrome mirrors compared to the plastic ones
5-speed gearbox
CDI
Electric Start
Gas filled shock absorbers
5 Clutch Plates Casing
The whole setup would've been much cheaper than what you currently own.

I'm sure if Royal Enfield launches a 750cc bike with absolutely no sound, they'll still be cursed. All those 1980 STD 350 owners will rebuke it.
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Old 13th May 2009, 21:46   #62
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@Gordon: RE Classics 350 was never made to race or compete, I guess here you are talking about RE Interceptors 750 cc (Series I and II).
The Interceptors were the most powerful of the Enfields. But it started from the 250s. Enfield 250s were very popular. And the Enfield cafe racers were first built on 250s. When the Japanese started flooding the market, they answered with a 750cc monster.

During the era when these bikes were launched only one word prevailed - "speed". They had to better their competition. Who were their competition?! Triumphs, BSAs, Nortons, etc.

Royal Enfield was opened in India for one major reason only. Large orders for the British Empire in India AND the Indian military. Since then what Indians did was use the Indian mentality to it. Average, thump, heavy crank, carry a lot of load etc. Which is why the Standard 350 ended up always with the milkman, local carraiges, and even the police.

And no one decides what is the correct "thump". Even Nortons thump, even Triumphs thump. These are all called Thumpers. To say a Royal Enfield Standard 350 is better than a Norton Manx because of the "thump" is preposterous!

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You mean to say Aluminium is better conductor of sound? I doubt it. To my knowledge Iron has better sound conductivity than Al.
I think its due to other resons AL engines are noisy. Should I say RE never learnt that art in AL like Japanese makers.
Alumium is a better conductor hence it conducts the noises outwards,..thats why you hear all the racket of the mechanicals including the whossh whossh of the pistons moving up and down.

Cast Iron dampens these noices and as a results all the that gets to you is the thump. The rest of the racket is insulated so to speak.

You must also keep in mind that all Jap singles in India are operated via over head CAMS (OHC's) vs. Bullet which is still a OHV (Over head valves, read as pushrod). Hence there is more rackets of the tappets to deal with as well.
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You must also keep in mind that all Jap singles in India are operated via over head CAMS (OHC's) vs. Bullet which is still a OHV (Over head valves, read as pushrod). Hence there is more rackets of the tappets to deal with as well.
Add to this ,Bullets are Long Stroke Motorcycles which makes good for long distance travel(arguably!).HH karizma's Engine also is a long stroke One.
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Ordinary Bullets with Average Crank Weight Climbs(pulls) slightly better than Heavy Crank Bullets in Ghat/Hill Section.While The Benefit of Heavy Crank Includes slow cruising speed(20-25kmph) achieved on 4th gear and of course the thump is deeper.(Correct Me!)
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Finally got my thumper back with new piston/cylinder kit and slight free flow exhaust, it scares hell out of those puny 100/125/135/150 cc commuters.
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Finally got my thumper back with new piston/cylinder kit and slight free flow exhaust, it scares hell out of those puny 100/125/135/150 cc commuters.
Any pics/ videos of all the stuff done?
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