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Old 16th September 2009, 15:22   #226
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^^^ One litre a month? Gosh... how many km do you cover in a month? Btw, since you burn so much oil, how often do you generally need to decarb?

It is a tad expensive, but what are the other choices?? Petronas 5000 costs nearly the same right? I believe they have increased prices lately. VSX2 and Jet X no longer seem to be in the market here at least. I guess its the same in Bombay, right? Technically also they are not comparable. That leaves stuff like MAK, Servo and Castrol Super TT, which I'd rather not use.
Petronas 5000 is for 325/- and 4000 is for 170/-

I've been told to decarb every 3000 kms. I do around 1000-1500 kms in a month.
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Cool... but I believe the newer lot will have a higher price which will be close to the Motul 510...

Blimey... decarb every 3,000 km??? You mean the whole thing of decarbing the head and burning the baffles in the silencer, etc??? Surely, that is not required that frequently?
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Cool... but I believe the newer lot will have a higher price which will be close to the Motul 510...

Blimey... decarb every 3,000 km??? You mean the whole thing of decarbing the head and burning the baffles in the silencer, etc??? Surely, that is not required that frequently?
I didn't decarb the head this time. Will do it after 3k.

The Petronas is for 325/- mrp old stock. New stock is going to be 457/-. They will not get new stock until they sell the old stock off.
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457... nuts!!!

Haven't you tried System 2 3 (IFTEX)? I'v been told that if you use that, you don't need to manually decarb the engine/port. The silencer is another matter though. Thats one reason why I wanted a JASO FD rated oil like Motul 510 which is supposed to burn very cleanly. I'm hoping it will keep manual decarbing at bay for a long time. My priority is to do whatever possible to to keep my bike away from mechanics with min. work at my end also.
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Haven't you tried System 2 3 (IFTEX)? I'v been told that if you use that, you don't need to manually decarb the engine/port.
What's this and where is it available?
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Its a fuel petrol additive. You'll find it at BPCL bunks and oil and auto shops. Add 2 ml/liter of ordinary petrol (not Speed/Power/Shell Super etc). You get bottle with dispenser and sachet. Make sure you buy the one ment for 2 wheelers only.
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ok guys

here is the pic of my bikes's piston after running more than 2k kms and mainly the bike was ripped.

Earler i was using castrol Jetx oil for running but then i started using Petronas say 1k kms back.

And am running a chamber with my bike !!

The ratio of oil is little more than required to keep my bike running nicely !!

NO SMOKE from exhaust if compared to castrol jet x


Please note bike is opened up for first time after rebuild !!

Cylinder liner so absolutely smooth

SORRY for Black and white pics as we reliased later as it was shooted in wrong mode but enough clear to tell the story !!
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Seems really clean!! Petronas is JASO FC. I'm hoping the FD rated Motul 510 will keep things even more clean... eliminating/reducing the need for manual decarbs and power loss in the interim.

Did you open the engine just to check all this??
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Guys, What the best fully synthetic 2T available in the country for use with 91 octane fuel? Price is not an issue because the use is very minimal, about 50ml a week only.
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You haven't gone thru the thread...

Best would be Motul 800. If price is an issue, Motul 510 would be the next best.

Motul 800 is for pre-mix only, whereas Motul 510 can be used either way.
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I did see reference for Motul here and xbhp and checked in Chennai, but smaller guys dont have motul 2T, some guys have, but very old stock. Many guys have 4T.

Does motul have a India website? What are my other options? I would not be very concerned if it was for a bike. This is for a model engine which cant take as much abuse as the big boys.
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Dude, please search the thread for contact details of Motul guys. You can also go to their India site and write/call Atlantic Lubricants and ask them.
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The 510 is semi synthetic. You can also go for the Petronas fully synthetic.
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Old 19th November 2009, 16:34   #239
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Anybody here does their PUC regularly?

I got a PUC done for my Suzuki Shogun after ages. The readings were a pleasant surprise -

CO = 0.6%
HC = 900 ppm

For bikes of this catageory, according to the certificate, the limits are -

CO - 4.5 %
HC - 9,000 ppm

I really wonder how the limits are so lenient.

Oil used is Jet X on autolube. Carb. I have tuned myself. Petrol from my usual BPCL COCO bunk. Spark plug - MICO W5BC.

Time permitting, will take a reading again after I start using Motul 510. I'm hoping it will reduce the emissions further.

Would be really interested to know what readings others are getting with different oils; though I dunno how accurate these the readings are...
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BTW what is the latest Jaso specs for 2T oils? I lost touch after Y2K. Till then I was using Castrol Jet-X for my Shogun and I think it was Jaso-FC.
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