Bullet Heart transplant - Team-BHP

drsamuelk · 25th May 2009, 23:53

Hi guys, I just thought I should share this with you. My friends bullet was the 6th dissapointing 350 AVL bullet to be released by Bullet in India and the early ones were a flop. I believe that all things got to do with the number '6' is pure bad luck(Satan's number). We had been to our Bullet dealer in Vellore, Tamilnadu and wanted to improve our 350 machismo. We were promptly offered a new 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Just keeping the old gearbox. That's really cool, now all of you out there, don't waste money on re-boring an old engine. If you don't want an AVL engine, just go for a new "Cast iron engine", it costs Rs 15,000. Just get a load of that. It's a heart transplant that's worth every penny.

Torque-ative · 26th May 2009, 19:24

Refreshing thought process ! However is the 15000 for 350 CI or 500 CI !! Wishful thinking ??? You betcha !

Rennjit · 26th May 2009, 20:15

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Originally Posted by drsamuelk

..We were promptly offered a new 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new..

just go for a new "Cast iron engine", it costs Rs 15,000.

That's too cheap for an Enfield engine. Are you sure its a Complete engine which can be directly loaded on to rest g'box & frame without any component transplants from the engine which goes out. For 15K it happens to be the most reliable & efficient refurbishment process ever.

desideep · 26th May 2009, 20:33

where can i get one?

drsamuelk · 1st June 2009, 23:29

Yep thats what we were quoted, just gotta keep the old carb, exhaust and gearbox. But getting one from the firm will take time, just like we're waiting for a new one from the firm. Gotta provide them a copy of the RC book to get the engine number etched on the casing.

drsamuelk · 1st June 2009, 23:32

15 K for the 350 CI and 35K for the 500 AVL (without the carb)

jeepster · 2nd June 2009, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsamuelk

Hi guys, I just thought I should share this with you.

We had been to our Bullet dealer in Vellore, Tamilnadu .
We were promptly offered a new 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000.

This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Just keeping the old gearbox.
If you don't want an AVL engine, just go for a new "Cast iron engine", it costs Rs 15,000. Just get a load of that.

hi drsamuelk

i have 88 bullet std which i have converted (or restored

) to an pre 60 one (for looks 0nly).

if the engine assembly is for 1500 i am interested in it.

give more details of the dealership as telephone number or email,etc.

if possible ask for the price of the new chassis also.

greatmana2000 · 3rd June 2009, 02:33

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Originally Posted by drsamuelk

Yep thats what we were quoted, just gotta keep the old carb, exhaust and gearbox. But getting one from the firm will take time, just like we're waiting for a new one from the firm. Gotta provide them a copy of the RC book to get the engine number etched on the casing.

An what about the displacement change ? will that reflect in the RC ?

I am guessing that the dealership is assembling the engine from parts and getting the number stamped . I do not think you are getting an offer from RE .

greatmana2000 · 3rd June 2009, 02:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsamuelk

Hi guys, I just thought I should share this with you. My friends bullet was the 6th dissapointing 350 AVL bullet to be released by Bullet in India and the early ones were a flop. I believe that all things got to do with the number '6' is pure bad luck(Satan's number). We had been to our Bullet dealer in Vellore, Tamilnadu and wanted to improve our 350 machismo. We were promptly offered a new 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Just keeping the old gearbox. That's really cool, now all of you out there, don't waste money on re-boring an old engine. If you don't want an AVL engine, just go for a new "Cast iron engine", it costs Rs 15,000. Just get a load of that. It's a heart transplant that's worth every penny.

The characteristics of the AVL and Machismo engine are different . DO both of them share the same gearbox ?

drsamuelk · 9th June 2009, 20:47

No all new engines are procured from REM, we are at the final stage of clearance at the firm's head office, too much paperwork and red tape. Finally when it's approved the firm confirms the previous engine number, they stamp the numbers on and give it to us. I know this because when we get this engine, it will be REM engine no 3 on the same chassis. Yes we have been thro this process of changing the engine once before but things were a little faster because it was in the warranty period. Prior RTO clearance has to be obtained, which is a formality. And yes the gearbox are all the same, it should mate. Guys have you heard of a chap in chennai who mates a maruti 800cc engine to a bullet gearbox. It's possible, as the gears are in a different integral enclosed cassette with the first drive shaft jetting out. That's what makes a bullet so versatile. No other bike on the Indian road has such a gearbox. The next time you see a 'Custom bike build' on 'Travel and living' watch ssome of the engines closely, they are Vtwin engines and seperate gearbox briven by 2 belts. The bullet's gear box is something like that. I wish we could import Vtwin engines in India too.............Until then happy ridin.

somspaple · 9th June 2009, 23:22

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Originally Posted by drsamuelk

N....next time you see a 'Custom bike build' on 'Travel and living' watch ssome of the engines closely, they are Vtwin engines and seperate gearbox briven by 2 belts. The bullet's gear box is something like that. I wish we could import Vtwin engines in India too.............Until then happy ridin.

do you mean these bikes have two sets of gearboxes? pardon my ignorance

but I was under the impression that the two pistons are mated with the help of some crank case or something

jkdas · 10th June 2009, 10:18

350AVL was what? It was an engine on high spirits.

And 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Wow! jump at it!

nitro.1000bhp · 12th June 2009, 00:33

Wow! Thats interesting, does the same apply for the 535 also ?? eg. can I use the 535's head and cylinder and the rest of it from any different RE model ?

drsamuelk · 17th June 2009, 23:58

{http://www.realclassic.co.uk/bullet07082100.html}

please follow the above link and check out the 2 part series on the 612cc bullet transformation. It's food for thought. Make us look like suckers!
In fact check the Real Classic - All about buying & selling, riding & restoring real classic motorcycles site and bullet is found under royal enfield motors, there are a host of other mods people have done with their bullet. Money and know how seems to be the bottom line, we have neither of these. It's depressing sometimes, how we're satisfied with 17 - 24 BHP.

JayPrashanth · 30th August 2009, 11:22

I spoke to Hitchcock's a few months ago and asked if I could order performance cams for the AVL. They said, they were developing a high lift cam set for the AVLs which will be out for Christmas. Can't wait.

Cheers,

Jay

25th May 2009, 23:53	#1 (permalink)
drsamuelk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: vellore Posts: 9	Bullet Heart transplant Hi guys, I just thought I should share this with you. My friends bullet was the 6th dissapointing 350 AVL bullet to be released by Bullet in India and the early ones were a flop. I believe that all things got to do with the number '6' is pure bad luck(Satan's number). We had been to our Bullet dealer in Vellore, Tamilnadu and wanted to improve our 350 machismo. We were promptly offered a new 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Just keeping the old gearbox. That's really cool, now all of you out there, don't waste money on re-boring an old engine. If you don't want an AVL engine, just go for a new "Cast iron engine", it costs Rs 15,000. Just get a load of that. It's a heart transplant that's worth every penny.

26th May 2009, 19:24	#2 (permalink)
Torque-ative BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 359	Refreshing thought process ! However is the 15000 for 350 CI or 500 CI !! Wishful thinking ??? You betcha ! __________________ Dont lie,...that way you'd have less to remember - Indian Larry

26th May 2009, 20:33	#4 (permalink)
desideep BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PB03, HR26, DL** Posts: 477 View My Garage	where can i get one? __________________ 2002 SUZUKI ZEN \| 1993 YAMAHA RX100 \| 1977 RE Bullet 350 STD \| 2008 HH CBZ \| 1997 LML NVSpl

10th June 2009, 10:18	#12 (permalink)
jkdas Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapuram-Shertalla! Posts: 6,940 View My Garage	350AVL was what? It was an engine on high spirits. And 500 cc stock AVL engine for Rs 35,000. This engine contains cylinders, crank case, crank and shaft, everything new. Wow! jump at it! __________________ Audio, video, disco Tat tvam asi

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1st June 2009, 23:29	#5 (permalink)
drsamuelk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: vellore Posts: 9	Yep thats what we were quoted, just gotta keep the old carb, exhaust and gearbox. But getting one from the firm will take time, just like we're waiting for a new one from the firm. Gotta provide them a copy of the RC book to get the engine number etched on the casing.

1st June 2009, 23:32	#6 (permalink)
drsamuelk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: vellore Posts: 9	15 K for the 350 CI and 35K for the 500 AVL (without the carb)

9th June 2009, 20:47	#10 (permalink)
drsamuelk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: vellore Posts: 9	No all new engines are procured from REM, we are at the final stage of clearance at the firm's head office, too much paperwork and red tape. Finally when it's approved the firm confirms the previous engine number, they stamp the numbers on and give it to us. I know this because when we get this engine, it will be REM engine no 3 on the same chassis. Yes we have been thro this process of changing the engine once before but things were a little faster because it was in the warranty period. Prior RTO clearance has to be obtained, which is a formality. And yes the gearbox are all the same, it should mate. Guys have you heard of a chap in chennai who mates a maruti 800cc engine to a bullet gearbox. It's possible, as the gears are in a different integral enclosed cassette with the first drive shaft jetting out. That's what makes a bullet so versatile. No other bike on the Indian road has such a gearbox. The next time you see a 'Custom bike build' on 'Travel and living' watch ssome of the engines closely, they are Vtwin engines and seperate gearbox briven by 2 belts. The bullet's gear box is something like that. I wish we could import Vtwin engines in India too.............Until then happy ridin.

12th June 2009, 00:33	#13 (permalink)
nitro.1000bhp BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: hyderabad Posts: 64	Wow! Thats interesting, does the same apply for the 535 also ?? eg. can I use the 535's head and cylinder and the rest of it from any different RE model ?

17th June 2009, 23:58	#14 (permalink)
drsamuelk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: vellore Posts: 9	{http://www.realclassic.co.uk/bullet07082100.html} please follow the above link and check out the 2 part series on the 612cc bullet transformation. It's food for thought. Make us look like suckers! In fact check the Real Classic - All about buying & selling, riding & restoring real classic motorcycles site and bullet is found under royal enfield motors, there are a host of other mods people have done with their bullet. Money and know how seems to be the bottom line, we have neither of these. It's depressing sometimes, how we're satisfied with 17 - 24 BHP.

30th August 2009, 11:22	#15 (permalink)
JayPrashanth BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bangalore/pune Posts: 276	I spoke to Hitchcock's a few months ago and asked if I could order performance cams for the AVL. They said, they were developing a high lift cam set for the AVLs which will be out for Christmas. Can't wait. Cheers, Jay