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Old 6th May 2015, 18:13   #91
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Whoops does it get so humid in Pune to spoil the paint? Think its a mixture of humidity and dry weather that has taken the toll on the painting.

Have stored a brand new Shogun Tank but have smeared it with grease all round and then put in bubble sheet around it. The same treatment for my RD Spare Barrels, Silencers, Rims and what not

Sorry to read your tale could see the disappointment in your writing.
If it had been humidity, the tool boxes and fork barrels and mudguards would also have met a similar fate. All pristine.

I think it was the residual petrol vapor doing their work inside the layers of sheets that did this. :(

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I think it was the residual petrol vapor doing their work inside the layers of sheets that did this. :(
Gotcha, So I suppose its a better idea to have these tanks sun dried before keeping them up for stores. Or is there a better way to get rid of these vapors without it being a time consuming affair.
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Mate,

Did you really repaint the red tank with the black paints? Honestly your original skin was still in good nick and a bit of detailing would have made it look even more graceful.
Thanks mate. No, I did not repaint. I bought a new black tank and side covers. Kept the red one as-is. I know, I could have worked on it and extended it's life for a few more years. But, it was a little rusted inside and I thought of getting a new one when it's available in the market.
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Thanks mate. No, I did not repaint. I bought a new black tank and side covers. Kept the red one as-is. I know, I could have worked on it and extended it's life for a few more years. But, it was a little rusted inside and I thought of getting a new one when it's available in the market.
I hope you know sir that changing colour of the vehicle is considered as modification and since we are Rx owners, generally the cops target us first, and during that stint if he notices the RC colour mentioned is different than that on the bike, then there is a big fine imposed (first hand experience, also, I was fined for not having a saree guard and he was adamant that the cat-con on my Rx 135 5speed was an aftermarket modification). The norms are much stricter here in Mumbai.

As regards to your new tank, do give it an epoxy coating on the inside to prevent rusting from the inner side of the tank. It's not a costly affair too.
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Gotcha, So I suppose its a better idea to have these tanks sun dried before keeping them up for stores. Or is there a better way to get rid of these vapors without it being a time consuming affair.
Ya sun dry, and keep the tank cap open for the vapor to escape completely, and then the best thing would be to simply keep the tank open. If I had, carefully on top of some cupboard or something, short of tons of dust (protective), there would have been no more damage. In trying to protect the tank, I landed up damaging it a lot more.
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I hope you know sir that changing colour of the vehicle is considered as modification and since we are Rx owners, generally the cops target us first, and during that stint if he notices the RC colour mentioned is different than that on the bike, then there is a big fine imposed (first hand experience, also, I was fined for not having a saree guard and he was adamant that the cat-con on my Rx 135 5speed was an aftermarket modification). The norms are much stricter here in Mumbai.

As regards to your new tank, do give it an epoxy coating on the inside to prevent rusting from the inner side of the tank. It's not a costly affair too.
Thank you. I did get the FC done and green tax paid post the mod. I did specifically ask the RTO agent at that time to get the color change noted in the RC book, but he said no one pays attention to it anymore and RTO does not make such changes in the book (I know it was done in the past). I did not press further thinking that it is a trivial thing. I should have get it done
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I'm from Ahmedabad and I recently decided to hunt around for properly kept RX100s. Day before yesterday, I came across one that looks cosmetically tight. The owner has repainted the tank, touched up the engine from outside, changed all the chrome parts to brand new, remade the seat, etc. So at first glance, I fell in love with the bike. But there are a few concerns I need to get some clarification for.

First, I noticed white smoke coming out of the exhaust. The revs and the gear shifts were quite smooth, but I saw an excess of white smoke coming out of the exhaust. Now, I understand that 2 strokers are prone to emitting some smoke, but I wasn't convinced. I'd been told by a friend that minimal amounts of blue hazy smoke is what's required. White smoke might mean one or more of a whole plethora of problems, ranging from small to big.

Second, the bike is with the second owner, but the RC is still registered in the name of the first owner. The guy I had a talk with (second owner) claims that the first is a friend of his and that he'll get me the signatures from the first owner. So that's that. But the only document he has is the RC. He doesn't have an insurance. Now, I'm guessing this bike's mostly a '90-'95 build. He didn't know and I couldn't get a chance to inspect his RC. Considering that he doesn't have an insurance, wouldn't it get difficult for me to get a new insurance policy claimed? Are there any companies that deal with giving out insurances for 20 year old motorcycles? Also, I'm guessing that the RC, an insurance and a PUC are the three documents one needs to present if caught. Am I missing something?

Third, where can I find a really good mechanic for RXs / 2-strokers in Ahmedabad? No point in blindly buying a old motorcycle before doing some thorough research about the wheres and whos. Also, where can I buy genuine spares for RX100 in Ahmedabad?

Last, would anyone in Ahmedabad be willing to accompany me to check out the RX once again and inspect it? Preferably someone who already has an RX and knows it inside out. I can pick you up and drop you. I need an expert's opinion on the bike I'm interested in buying, is all. The owner stays in Shahibaug.

And what all things should I be asking the owner or inquiring about or looking for in the bike before I move on to making up my mind? Any specifics I need to check for? The engine's a G1 make.

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Second, the bike is with the second owner, but the RC is still registered in the name of the first owner. The guy I had a talk with (second owner) claims that the first is a friend of his and that he'll get me the signatures from the first owner. So that's that. But the only document he has is the RC. He doesn't have an insurance. Now, I'm guessing this bike's mostly a '90-'95 build. He didn't know and I couldn't get a chance to inspect his RC. Considering that he doesn't have an insurance, wouldn't it get difficult for me to get a new insurance policy claimed? Are there any companies that deal with giving out insurances for 20 year old motorcycles? Also, I'm guessing that the RC, an insurance and a PUC are the three documents one needs to present if caught. Am I missing something?

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Regarding your Insurance query:

You can easily get the third party insurance from any insurance company. As the bike is 15/20 years old you might not get the full insurance since the value of the bike is already depreciated to almost nil on paper. The third party insurance is a compulsory insurance and no company can deny it, by law they have to insure your vehicle for third party coverage, even if it is 100 years old, the cost would be around Rs.500 to Rs. 600/-.
Getting a PUC should be hassle free as in Gujarat they click the photo of the bike along with the PUC procedure, cost would be around Rs. 50/- to Rs. 75/-

The things that are required are RC, Insurance and PUC, but in your case since the bike is 15 years old or more, the passing and green tax should also be available. I am not sure about the Gujarat RTO procedure but the general rule is after 15 years any vehicle in India requires a further passing for 5 years if the vehicle is in roadworthy condition, and thereafter every 5 years this passing has to be done. This involves around 1k to 5k cost depending on the law of that state.

Regarding your bike query:

The white smoke might be due to excess oil (fairly non problematic), or due to bad piston rings/ pistons (big problem). You can check this by riding the bike and checking for any power losses or compression loss during the ride. This might require a rebore of the engine or buying altogether a new block piston set which is approx 10k. You can ask the seller as to what oversize is the engine running on. The engine can be re-bored to 4 oversizes and the pistons could be identified as 0.00, 0.25 (first oversize), 0.5 (second oversize), 0.75 (third oversize) and 1.0 (fourth oversize), anything beyond this is a big bore setup and should be avoided.

In general Rx 100s are very easy to maintain and also give a lot of riding pleasure, if you are looking for sheer outright performance then look out for the later Rx 135 - 5speed version, this was the most powerful bike of all the Rx series, but if you want that perfect 2 stroke sound and years of loyalty then go for Rx 100 blindly.
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Thanks for the info yo. So the papers I need are :

RC - the owner has, can be transferred onto my name.
PUC - owner doesn't have, can be done.
Insurance - owner doesn't have, can be acquired.
Passing (is this the same as the fitness test certificate?) - shall need to get done. Also, what all factors does the passing depend on?
Green Tax - Can you shed some more light on this?

As for the piston size increments, I was told about the same by a friend. So I'd even asked the owner if he has any idea as to whether the engine has been rebored. He said he doesn't have any idea (since he's the second owner). Which is why I'm looking for someone I can take along - maybe go there and if it's not too difficult to open the head, do that at the owner's place itself. I'll call the owner up and ask him if he can ask the previous owner if he's gotten the engine rebored at any time. Anything else I need to get asked?

I think I'll go for the 100. I've had my brief share of fun on a friend's 100 and I somehow feel strongly for the bike. I'm sure the 135s are equally fun, but I'm a bit tight on my budget too. Thanks for the suggestion though!
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Before you go after this particular piece, I think you should meet with the on-paper owner.
Just my thought. Get your papers etc signed in your presence from him. Otherwise, it all sounds just a little too shady.

As for the bike, the RX100 is extremely rudimentary, very easy to fix up, and although the brightwork is a bit hard to find(not impossible though), the functional bits are easy to locate.Heck, someone I know got 2 of them and fixed up one solid screamer.
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Passing (is this the same as the fitness test certificate?) - shall need to get done. Also, what all factors does the passing depend on?
Yes, it is the same. RTOs issue fitness certificate after checking for the road worthiness of the vehicle (physical/mechanical condition, emission level, functioning of all lamps, horns)

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I'll call the owner up and ask him if he can ask the previous owner if he's gotten the engine rebored at any time.
Remove the engine head (just 4 nuts) to see yourself the piston size. Owner may claim the vehicle is running with standard piston and the fact may be the last oversize. After buying there is no meaning in regretting. Check anything and everything before you pay him.
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I think you should meet with the on-paper owner.
Makes sense. Thank you.

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Remove the engine head (just 4 nuts) to see yourself the piston size.
Will try doing that. Thank you.

Still haven't found anyone from Ahmedabad who can tag along and give a better opinion. :(
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Hi people,

Man, you guys have literally opened up a waterspout!!-all of you.

This was the first ever 'bike' I came across in my life, even before my dad's Vijay's Super. I learnt to ride on this bike. As everyone else had said, the exhaust note is so different and intoxicating, it loves to be revved!!

My cousin in Kerala bought this bike. He gave it to me a few times to ride, the wind in your face and the instant acceleration with that meaty sound was more than heaven at that point in time.

Imagine this, my grandmother's house is on a hilly area in Kozencherry, Kerala. And, by 9:30 -10:00 most folks shut down for the night. This is around 1992-93. My cousin normally returns home by 11:30PM. The only thing that disturbs the quietness of the night is the meaty, powerful accelerating note of the Rx as he climbs that hill - man!, it's a sight to watch and behold. I had grown so used to his style of riding that i could instinctively tell it was him as he turned into that hilly road. Sadly, as life went by,he had to sell it as he moved over to DXB.

I just wish this comes back. Btw, i haven't seen the actual ad for the Rx. It's mentioned it has a 7 port torque induction. What is this?


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Hello!

I finally found a bike that's cosmetically decent, doesn't give out too much white smoke, has been kept nicely and feels fine while riding. I spoke to the owner (he's the second owner, which would make me the third if I buy this) and he seems to have maintained the bike well. As for the papers, he has his RC (with an extended 5 years on the RC - he said the "fitness certificate" is not a separate thing but the "vehicle approved till" date on the RC gets extended and that in itself is a certification of the fitness of the bike - is this true?), his PUC and an insurance that'll need to be renewed. He's ready to help me out in the transfer of ownership procedure. He seems to be a nice chap. But well, one can never know for sure.

Is there any verification that I should be getting done from any office other than the RTO? Is there any way I can approach the police and have the vehicle verified? Can I ask the owner to present a police verification report or is a clean RC inclusive of all that? Do people usually ask the sellers for any kind of police verification of the vehicle before buying?

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I have an '86 RX 100 which I had used till 2009..looking for a reliable RX specialist in chennai who can restore it to stock..can anyone on this forum recommend pls..thanks in advance
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