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Old 29th July 2011, 12:37   #166
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What about the Hero Honda Street? Perhaps it has already been mentioned here?

IIRC, it offered the possibility to go from 4th gear to first or neutral. Pretty small for a bike though, almost positioned in nowhere range!
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What about the Kinetic Italiano blaze?
I've driven the Blaze. One heck of a scooter I must say. It had the best of both worlds, Power and Comfort. The Blaze had characteristics of a tourer. But, OTOH it was a pain to drive in the city.
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What about the Hero Honda Street? Perhaps it has already been mentioned here?

IIRC, it offered the possibility to go from 4th gear to first or neutral. Pretty small for a bike though, almost positioned in nowhere range!
Hero Honda Street was perhaps the most unfortunate of the new generation bikes marketed in India. It's original version is accepted to be the 'Best Bike' ever designed and produced. I agree with that. I plan to write about my experience of Hero Honda Street soon.
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You can see SX Enduro in Hindi movie Sarfarosh Makarand Deshpande riding it.

The other one is Supra?
Hello !

Few Prowler Pics for your reference.

Technical Specification of Prowler RR 125

Engine : Two Stroke, Single Cylinder, Natural air Cooled.
Engine Displacement : 123 CC.
Max. Net Power : 12.50 PS at 7250 RPM.
Ignition System : Electronic Ignition.
Spark Plug : Mico/Bosch W 5 DC
Engine Lubrication : Separate Oil Injection Pump. (With Low Oil Indicator on Instrument Console.)
Transmission : 5 Speed
Front Brake : Hydraulically Operated Ventilated Disk Brake (Amazing BREMBO Brake System)
Rear Brake : Mechanical Expanding Shoe Type.
Fuel Tank Capacity : 14 Liters (Actually it is more than that @ 15.25) Reserve : 3 Liters Usable Reserve : 2 Liters.
Vehicle Kerb Weight : 121 KG (Heavier than the KB 125 or any other bike in its class)
Max Speed : 110 Kms / Hour (I have crossed 120 and needle was at Bottom Bajaj logo with ease)

Rest all specs are like KB 125.

On a Instrument Console there are 4 lights
1. Upper Left Green Indicator is Turn Indicator.
2. Upper Right Red Indicator is Low Oil Warning Indicator. (Float is installed inside the 2T Oil Container and this Indicator is very very Bright so no one can miss it even in bright day light)
3. Bottom Left Blue Indicator is High Beam Indicator.
4. Bottom right Green Indicator is Neutral Gear Position Indicator.

Highlights of Prowler RR 125. Thanks to Bajaj.

No Cost Cutting or Compromise Bike.


1. Munjal Showa Rear Suspension. On earlier KB 100 they were providing Munjal but later they started Gabriel Suspension.
2. Brembo Brake system. Absolutely fantastic brake system, Indian manufacturers like KBX and Pricol need to learn from them. No brake locking, no skidding, more than 100% Safe and Sure. Not used for few years but still you can operate it with single finger. Wheel is very very free/smooth like a Drum Brake System, No Rubbing of Disk and Pads at all. Till today over a decade no issues with the brake system.
Catalytic Converter : To minimize Exhaust Gas Emission. To check this claim once went to PUC ctr. With my friend with his 4S Champion. Figures were so shocking, It was just over 4S values. Surprisingly following HH Splender was way higher than Prowler. On this we checked once again to confirm and this time figures were even lower close to 4S. PUC guy said vehicle is very good but why it makes big sound? He assumed it as a 4 stroke vehicle (due to similar shape of Caliber and emission values)
3. Thanks to Bajaj for providing Front Gripped tire over a standard Ribbed tire. This ensures sure and safe breaking and provide great stability and confidence while cornering.
4. Low 2T Oil Warning Indicator to eliminate risk of running out of 2T Oil and prevention of possible damage to the Engine.
5. Halogen head lamp, and quality Car like wiring harness.
6. Rubber boot (Cover) for Front Shock Absorbed.

Prowler price was higher than KB 125 but it was worth to pay that extra amount.

Experience of riding this beauty is excellent, Engine is smooth and full with power, Suspension is like a premium sedan, handling and control is superb. Braking is sure and safe. Headlight beam covers every corner of the road, hence even safe for night driving. Overall it is a great bike.

Decade back this bike was a head turner and even now it is for sure...
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You can see SX Enduro in Hindi movie Sarfarosh Makarand Deshpande riding it.

The other one is Supra?
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A few flops in the Indian scene from the 90s were the following,

TVS
* TVS Spectra - Superb engine and build, but pricing and advertising killed it
* TVS centra - crap
* TVS 50 XT
* TVS Super Champ 60
* TVS Asta 60
* TVS Sport
* TVS Victor GLX 125
* TVS champ 50 (not 60)
* TVS Express
* TVS suzuki Supra Power-up
* TVS suzuki Shaolin

Bajaj
* Bajaj M80 4-s
* Bajaj Eliminator 175
* Bajaj Aspire
* Bajaj Caliber croma
* Bajaj Spirit
* Bajaj wave
* Bajaj Saffire
* Bajaj Caliber 115
* Bajaj KB125
* Bajaj Prowler 125
* Bajaj Sunny / zip
* Bajaj Chetak 4s
* Bajaj Super FE
* Bajaj Rave
* Bajaj BYK
* Bajaj Legend
* Bajaj Stride
* Bajaj Bravo
* Bajaj Krystal
and some more

Kinetic
* Kinetic Campus Chill 100
* Kinetic K4100
* Kinetic Safari V2
* Kinetic Pride v2
* Kinetic 110 ZX
* Kinetic 4S
* Kinetic Boss
* Kinetic Challenger
* Kinetic Velocity
* Kinetic strike
* Kinetic Blaze 165
* Kinetic GF125
* Kinetic GF 175 sport/city
* Kinetic Style
and a few more

LML
LML Adreno
LML Energy
LML Adreno FX
LML Energy FX
LML Supremo
LML Select II
LML Freedom
LML Graptor
LML Beamer
LML Freedom prima
LML Freedom DLX
LML Trendy

Yamaha
Yamaha RD350
Yamaha RXG
Yamaha RXZ 4-speed
Yamaha RX 5-speed
Yamaha Alba
Yamaha Enticer
Yamaha YBX
Yamaha YD 125
Yamaha Fazer 125
Yamaha Gladiator version 1

will update the rest later....

Cheers,

Joel
Hello !

Bajaj Prowler RR 125 is certainly not a flop, Company stopped producing 2 Stroke machines, hence the production was stopped.

Prowler RR 125 has some of great features no manufacturer were providing that time and even now days.

I own 2001 model Prowler RR 125 you can find more details at below link.

Kawasaki RTZ - Page 12 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
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Old 21st November 2011, 14:03   #171
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Add to the list the Bajaj Legend NXT. This was a 2-stroke version of the Legend, with 150 cc engine, probably from the Chetak. I bought mine in 2002 when it was just launched and it was discontinued with 2-3 years. It used to return 48-50 kmpl. Did not have Electric start but never ever reqd even a second kick to start.
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Add to the list the Bajaj Legend NXT. This was a 2-stroke version of the Legend, with 150 cc engine, probably from the Chetak. I bought mine in 2002 when it was just launched and it was discontinued with 2-3 years. It used to return 48-50 kmpl. Did not have Electric start but never ever reqd even a second kick to start.
I think Bajaj was at the crossroads then deciding whether bikes or scooters will be their mainstay.The Chetak four stroke, Legend 2 and 4 strokes, Bravo, Stride followed by its successors were all attempts to resurrect the fading presence of the Scooter King in the scooter market that was being progressively invaded by Honda.
It was essentially a cold war between the Big Bajaj (Rahul) and his two sons, with Rajiv on the forefront. Rahulji was for a continued presence in the scooter market, whereas the sons wanted to bid adieu to scooters to concentrate more on the bikes.
Eventually the sons had their way. Now the Big Bajaj is all praise for his sons, especially Rajiv who he says knows what is best for Bajaj.
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Old 22nd November 2011, 09:35   #173
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Not too sure if this one has been discussed on this thread but we had the Enfield Taurus (RE Diesel Bike), Green colored fuel tank.

Does anyone know what duration (from when to when) this bike was sold?

Any insight on the tech specs and stuff?

Have seen a couple of them thus far.

Happy Motoring !!

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Not too sure if this one has been discussed on this thread but we had the Enfield Taurus (RE Diesel Bike), Green colored fuel tank.

Does anyone know what duration (from when to when) this bike was sold?

Any insight on the tech specs and stuff?

Have seen a couple of them thus far.

Happy Motoring !!
Here are the owner's manual and the sales leaflet on my website:

https://sites.google.com/site/alokbalsekar/
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This is GOD level, thanks a ton for the manuals !!

I wish I could thank you multiple times on the forum !!

Happy Motoring !!
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Hey..did we forget Lambretta Cento - 1st 100 cc scooter in India? and Lamby Polo ?
that is before the Vespa XE? I had so badly wanted a Spark. But had to settle for the Colt 60 [which I had modified extensively - I only wish I a picture]

Also Mascot MG[and spitfire MX] - successors of BSA Falcon and bond, Laxmi 48 [2gear and large dia wheels] - circa 1980?

I liked the RD bobby. Royal Enfield Crusader, Narmada scooters

Enfield 200 [Kapil Dev ads?]

Enfield Enterprise [never saw it - did see the Fury - my friend had it and Silver Plus/Explorer were popular]

There were also plans to release Benelli models [Arvind Benelli?]

Dart Moped III?

Hero Majestic; Suvega, Atlaf(s)olex [front wheel drive - the motor engages with the tire directly?]

I used to keep newspaper cutouts of Ads from The Hindu..even of trucks [remember Ashok LL Taurus/Viking?]

Krishna

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It has been mentioned before in this thread, but as a college kid 10 yrs back, I bought a yamaha crux! Big mistake! Had to sell it off in a month and got myself a rx 135. Needless to say, my parents weren't too happy.
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What about the Hero Honda Street? Perhaps it has already been mentioned here?
The street was a wonderful bike for it's class and for the people who wanted it, but it was a bit early in coming because of the big difference in the price compared to the Bajaj M50 or M80.

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Decade back this bike was a head turner and even now it is for sure...
I am not sure about the head turner part, anytime now or then. It did not last long enough for anyone to remember it at all.
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The street was a wonderful bike for it's class and for the people who wanted it, but it was a bit early in coming because of the big difference in the price compared to the Bajaj M50 or M80.



I am not sure about the head turner part, anytime now or then. It did not last long enough for anyone to remember it at all.
It was and is a head turner !

Have you ever ride or seen Prowler before ?

To confirm head turner part, Please visit Pune and have a ride on my Prowler.
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The street was a wonderful bike for it's class and for the people who wanted it, but it was a bit early in coming because of the big difference in the price compared to the Bajaj M50 or M80.



I am not sure about the head turner part, anytime now or then. It did not last long enough for anyone to remember it at all.
BTW

Head turner vehicle do not need to be on road for years, it is its character / image / uniqueness.
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