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Old 11th June 2012, 17:20   #2626
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A friend of mine had booked Enfield 350 Classic in October 2011 at Royal Enfield Brand Store, JP Nagar, Bangalore. They had promised delivery within 6 months. He hasn't received it till now. On enquiring now with the dealer, he is being asked to wait a further 6 months. Smell something fishy here.

What are his options?

He prefers to cancel the booking.
But before that can he escalate the issue with Enfield directly?

Any email id or phone number of GM/RM Sales would help. Please provide if available.

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Old 13th June 2012, 12:17   #2627
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A friend of mine had booked Enfield 350 Classic in October 2011 at Royal Enfield Brand Store, JP Nagar, Bangalore. They had promised delivery within 6 months. He hasn't received it till now. On enquiring now with the dealer, he is being asked to wait a further 6 months. Smell something fishy here.
Thats one of the longest waits.. definitely fishy fishy..
Ask your friend to escalate the entire experience along with receipt of booking, dates etc to RE customerr service and Eicher motors customers service. Their mail ids are on their sites. Alternatively its there on this thread as well, but would require some searching. Also, if possible, cc to area sales manager and the centre of booking. consistent and persistent nagging with RE and Eicher helps, in my experience.

Guys, does black smoke from the C5 exhaust, when cold starting and giving a bit of throttle mean the bike is running rich? What could be the others reasons for this black smoke? and what could be done to correct it.?

some recent mods on the bike: got the front fork sleeve removed and replaced with the rubber bellows. looks fine. NO more issues of sleeves rubbing the pipes and making noise.
changed to rear tyre to CEAT VERTIGO sports (tubeless version). So far so good. Grip seems to be as good as the previous Michelin M45 in dry tarmac condition. Yet to test it on wet, and at higher speeds.

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some recent mods on the bike: got the front fork sleeve removed and replaced with the rubber bellows. looks fine. NO more issues of sleeves rubbing the pipes and making noise.
Interesting mod. Would you mind posting a photo of the bike with the fork gators?
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Old 13th June 2012, 16:46   #2629
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Interesting mod. Would you mind posting a photo of the bike with the fork gators?
Sure, will post some pics soon. looks fine with the gators.


Guys, Re-posting my last query, any thoughts would be much appreciated.

"does black smoke from the C5 exhaust, when cold starting and giving a bit of throttle mean the bike is running rich? What could be the others reasons for this black smoke? and what could be done to correct it.?"

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Old 13th June 2012, 18:14   #2630
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too much oil or carbon in the engine could also be the reason for black smoke.......
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Black smoke is usually an indication of a rich air/fuel mixture.

I don't know if your C5 uses a carburetor or if it is fuel injected?

If it is fuel injected the computer reads the oil temperature, the atmospheric pressure and the throttle position to determine the fuel mixture and ignition timing.
When the engine is cold (cold oil) the mixture is automatically enriched by the computers cold start map.

If the black smoke disappears after a few minutes I wouldn't be too concerned.
If it doesn't, the Service department should be able to determine what the problem is.
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Any recommendations of engine oil in higher altitude like Leh? I have RE Classic 500.
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Old 14th June 2012, 12:22   #2633
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Black smoke is usually an indication of a rich air/fuel mixture.

I don't know if your C5 uses a carburetor or if it is fuel injected?

If it is fuel injected the computer reads the oil temperature, the atmospheric pressure and the throttle position to determine the fuel mixture and ignition timing.
When the engine is cold (cold oil) the mixture is automatically enriched by the computers cold start map.

If the black smoke disappears after a few minutes I wouldn't be too concerned.
If it doesn't, the Service department should be able to determine what the problem is.
All the C5s are fuel injected. only that O2 sensor is been removed from the indian version.

Yes, its visible only when given some decent throttle while the engine is cold. Ahyhow, will try and sort it out at the next service which in due in 800kms.


Below are some pics of the Gaitors inplace of fork sleeves. pardon the bad quality image from phone camera, in real life, it looks better.
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No....
To address this issue, get the rocker covers opened carefully (the Allen Key bolts should be opened with an original key to avoid slipping and deforming of grooves of the allen key),
This had happened to me and had posted as a heads up in C 350 thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...ership-63.html (RE Classic 350 - Initial ownership)
If you are removing it for the first time, the allen bolt won't budge unless you give a sharp blow to it with a box spanner and hammer. I forced it without jolting it and stripped the bolt as the L key slipped. The service was able to remove it but they reinstalled the stripped screw as no spares was available.
Can anybody please post the part number of the allen bolt for rocker cover ?
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Let me bring your attention to this:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...ld-bobber.html (Barebone 500 - Royal Enfield Bobber)
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Heys guys , thursday im taking delivery of my new black C5 .

Can anybody provide me with a check list of what all to check before taking delivery?
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Old 20th June 2012, 13:28   #2637
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@karizma9292, The link to Randhawa's PDI list
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...hread-128.html (The Royal Enfield 500 Classic thread!)

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@anandkenkare-There is nothing to rush or worry about. Just get a Bosch Platinum plus WR8DP plug for your bike and replace the primary plug with it and the jerks will go away. No need to touch the secondary plug. There is a long story about the additional washer thing and RE Chennai factory people have said that there is no need of an additional washer. In fact, new C5's are coming with WR8DP plug and have no additional washer on the secondary plug. About the ECU remap, your bike should already be having a remapped ecu. RE did supply bikes with WQR8DC and with new maps. You can also try contacting your RE regional managers to check if they can get your ECU remapped. You can also bring your ECU to India and get it remapped here. It is a 5 minutes job and will be done free of cost. You can contact me if you face any problems in getting the remapping done here in India.
WR8DP was not available here in Muscat so I ordered it from the U.S. Have just picked it up from Fedex and looking forward to fixing it on the bike in a few hours.
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Are there any reports of high speed instability with the new lot (2012) of C5's, Chromes and DS? IIRC, the front fork offset was removed and front wheel upsized to 19". I'm wondering if that solved the problem?
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@anandkenkare-There is nothing to rush or worry about. Just get a Bosch Platinum plus WR8DP plug for your bike and replace the primary plug with it and the jerks will go away. No need to touch the secondary plug. There is a long story about the additional washer thing and RE Chennai factory people have said that there is no need of an additional washer. In fact, new C5's are coming with WR8DP plug and have no additional washer on the secondary plug. About the ECU remap, your bike should already be having a remapped ecu. RE did supply bikes with WQR8DC and with new maps. You can also try contacting your RE regional managers to check if they can get your ECU remapped. You can also bring your ECU to India and get it remapped here. It is a 5 minutes job and will be done free of cost. You can contact me if you face any problems in getting the remapping done here in India.
I've fitted a german made WR8DP and I must say the difference is huge. Idling, pickup and cruising is much better. Once in a while though, there is slight misfiring still. I think I'll carry the ECU with me during my trip to India next month and shall get it remapped. I shall be visiting Goa (Panjim and Mapusa) and Kolkata. Do you know whether the dealers at either of these places are equipped to do ECU mapping ?
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