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Old 7th April 2010, 14:33   #31
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I have some questions:

1) If it were selling like hot cakes, why would Yamaha stop its manufacturing. Yamaha could have considered upgrading the engine to deliver better power.
2) Does any sales figures show it was doing really well with respect to competition.
3) Are there any other reasons apart from the Enticer being under powered? Like it did not meet some regulations or norms.

For me some of these dont sum up well at all

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I have some questions:

1) If it were selling like hot cakes, why would Yamaha stop its manufacturing. Yamaha could have considered upgrading the engine to deliver better power.
2) Does any sales figures show it was doing really well with respect to competition.
3) Are there any other reasons apart from the Enticer being under powered? Like it did not meet some regulations or norms.

For me some of these dont sum up well at all
the reason for the discontinue of enticers is Yamaha Directly started selling and manufacturing bikes in India, before it was tied up with Escorts. not only enticer, beautiful bikes like RX135, RXZ, YBX were also stopped. i had a discussion about the discontinuation of these models with Ex-YAMAHA South Manager for about 45mins in Farid Motors. He was Blaming Escorts as they were not interested in launching new models in India where as the whole world has new models and they were still selling bikes like RX135. RX135 is not technically advanced machine in 2005. and many bike manufacturers like Hero Honda, Bajaj, TVS were having more sales than Yamaha. and the enticer was the happening model in 2003-2004 in 2002 sales of enticers were low. YAMAHA Sales manager -South Division told us, Enticer is a very good bike but as escorts were selling it, we don't want to reproduce the same bike, and he told that escorts sold about 1 lakh enticers in 2003-2004 all over India. isn't it a good sales? enticers might be new at that time, but it had a same old 125 engine used for YBX, YD125
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the reason for the discontinue of enticers is Yamaha Directly started selling and manufacturing bikes in India, before it was tied up with Escorts. not only enticer, beautiful bikes like RX135, RXZ, YBX were also stopped.
They were stopped in lieu of emission norms coming into effect, they being 2 strokes
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enticers might be new at that time, but it had a same old 125 engine used for YBX, YD125
The current Gladiator is nothing but a refurbished YBX
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They were stopped in lieu of emission norms coming into effect, they being 2 strokes
The current Gladiator is nothing but a refurbished YBX
Yes, in fact all 2 stroke bikes in market were stopped as it did not comply with emission norms.

Are there any plans of Yamaha coming up with a new Cruiser bike in the near future?
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They were stopped in lieu of emission norms coming into effect, they being 2 strokes
The current Gladiator is nothing but a refurbished YBX
gladiator is equipped with many features such as DC-CDI ignition system, 5 speed transmission, air induction system and hair pin type catalytic converter, non-asbestos type clutch friction plate, low noise (silent) cam chain, YTPS equipped BS carburettor, newly designed sporty muffler etc. gives smooth drive, and diamond framed chassis gives road stability.

due to change over from Escorts Yamaha to Yamaha, they have stopped not only 2stroke bikes, even 4strokes bikes also, RX135 4S was also available at that time, old Fazer, libero Crux R YBX, YD125 all these are all 4s bikes including enticer.
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RX135 4S
You meant 4 speed barrel & not 4 stroke right?

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You meant 4 speed barrel & not 4 stroke right?
RX 135 was available in 4stroke version also
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RX 135 was available in 4stroke version also
Are you sure? if yes, a pic is what i would want

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gladiator is equipped with many features such as DC-CDI ignition system, 5 speed transmission, air induction system and hair pin type catalytic converter, non-asbestos type clutch friction plate, low noise (silent) cam chain, YTPS equipped BS carburettor, newly designed sporty muffler etc. gives smooth drive, and diamond framed chassis gives road stability.
Is there any change in the bore/stroke?
the engine is the same in Enticer/YBX/YD/Gladiator/Fazer(twin eyed ugly 125) with slight alterations

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due to change over from Escorts Yamaha to Yamaha, they have stopped not only 2stroke bikes, even 4strokes bikes also, RX135 4S was also available at that time, old Fazer, libero Crux R YBX, YD125 all these are all 4s bikes including enticer.
The bikes were faring poorly against competition(4S) and hence were axed
though few are still coming like Crux/LiberoG5/Alba
a new platform for 100cc shall soon be out

and yes, would like to see how a RX-135 FOUR STROKE looks like, hope you shall oblige us

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RX 135 and 4 stroke? I hope you are not kidding. I never ever heard of one. Only thing I remember was RX was stopped as like other 2 stroke bikes for not meeting emission norms. If not, it would have still been in the market. Just check out how mad the demand for a good all original RX 135 is in the market.

If I remember correctly, RX was stopped in 2005 or 2006 and their last model had a different speedo than the classic 135. It was 2 stroke.
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RX 135 was available in 4stroke version also
Sounds to me

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and yes, would like to see how a RX-135 FOUR STROKE looks like, hope you shall oblige us
Me too

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If I remember correctly, RX was stopped in 2005 or 2006 and their last model had a different speedo than the classic 135. It was 2 stroke.
+1; their last model was RX135 5 speed & RX135 4 speed with catcon & some people mistook this as 4 stroke

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RX with catcon was in the market way long back. Mine is a 2001 RX 135 and it came with a catcon. My friend had a 1999 Jan RX 135 and it had the old one. So the cat con might have come some time between 99-2001.

I did some googling and really couldnt find traces of any RX 135 4 stroke bike.

From Wikipedia(Yamaha RX-135 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia):
The RX-135 was released around the end of the 1990s and in select India cities, you could get a factory-shipped RX-135 till August 2005. There were 2 versions of this bike sold in India - the 4 speed and the 5 speed. Apart from the difference in the transmission, the bikes differed in the carburettor design as well.

The engine was the only 2-stroke bike you could get in the Indian market till mid-2000s, selling for a little while longer than the more sedate TVS Suzuki Samurai. Delivering 14 brake horsepower (10 kW), a well maintained vehicle could give you up to 51 kmpl, making it amongst the best mileage-to-power ratio in all India bikes. Add to that the sheer quality of Yamaha parts. Top speeds claimed approach nearly 120 km/h.
On the streets the main competition for this bike came from Kawasaki Bajaj's KB100 and KB125, TVS Suzuki's Shogun and Samurai and most importantly an array of economical to run 4 stroke 100 cc bikes.
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hey, i am extremely sorry guys, i was confused i made you also confuse. i clarified myself there were no 4Stroke version of RX135 and RXZ, when i bought my bike in Yamaha showroom, some guys confused me, at that time i didn't give much detail to those, and till now it was remained in my mind. once again sorry for telling there were 4 Stroke RX135 without proof.

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Thats okay Karthik!

In fact Yamaha has plans of relaunching its yester year best seller RX 100. It will retain the look and feel of the RX 100 with a 4 stroke engine.

Courtesy: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...-4-stroke.html (Yamaha may resurrect RX 100 in 4-stroke)
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Thats okay Karthik!

In fact Yamaha has plans of relaunching its yester year best seller RX 100. It will retain the look and feel of the RX 100 with a 4 stroke engine.

Courtesy: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...-4-stroke.html (Yamaha may resurrect RX 100 in 4-stroke)
if they relaunch Rx 100 with 4stroke engine, they will spoil the image of RX100, they don't have any other 100cc engine other than Alba engine. they have to redesign a 100cc engine Just for RX
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All these Credit goes to my friend arvind (he is in the above picture). He took the initiative to open Club for Enticers
Hi Kar. Let me tell everyone here that, " Guys,YEC Bengaluru, is a result of the collective effort put in by me and Karthik.". Who else could design such a wonderful logo for the club, within the blink of an eyelid!

Hoping to get the same kind of support from you Kar. And from all other members ( prospective ) too.

Cheers
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