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Old 10th April 2010, 02:46   #1
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Hi all, I am not a big enthusiast like a lot of you here. But I have a little bit of riding experience around the city and the little town that I come from.
Off lately I have been riding a Royal Enfield that is a 1977 been worked out a lots of time and is now working fine apart from the Bullet, I have a RX100 (converted into a 135 5speed), 1984 RD 350 that is rarely being used and also have a 1997 LML NVsPl.

Today I came from Ludhiana to Delhi. Left at around 11:30 had to be slow. But still I downshifted every now and then cause of the traffic being bad on the NH1 and also the construction going on various stretches. You know what when I downshifted not even a single time in the ride of 327 Km I had a false neutral or a stuck gear. I hard time twice when I tried to find the kick.

Then to realize. Oh THIS is a Brand new Bajaj Pulsar 220cc DTSi- S.
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Yes, owning an RE makes you rather expect false neutrals, and be surprised when you don't get any.

Congratulations on your new bike!
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Congratulations Desi
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Congrats on your new bike.

Good addition to a nice stable you have there.

But did you not miss the false neutral?
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What the heck is a "false neutral"?

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Nice Ride Amber.

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Old 10th April 2010, 19:59   #7
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Yes, owning an RE makes you rather expect false neutrals, and be surprised when you don't get any.

Congratulations on your new bike!
Thanks . and its very true about the false neutrals

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Congrats on your new bike.

Good addition to a nice stable you have there.

But did you not miss the false neutral?
Thanks BBLOST. you know what i did miss the false neutral. though the truth is that i dont get any in my bullet. what i mainly missed was the niggles. may be thats why i went for this bike.. hehe

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Hmm. ride a bullet and you will get to know.

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Thanks Jay. i am expecting to grow closer to the bullet. :P
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False neutral refers to the state of the bike where the bike's display console shows that the bike is in Neutral though it is, in reality, in some gear (probably 1st or 2nd). This happened once on my bike. I was riding at 40 km/hr, when the signal turned red. I cursed myself, and came to a halt. Depressed the gear shifter two and a half times (Mine is a 1 down 4 up type bike), and as expected, the bike's console showed a big green N. I released the clutch, and the bike propped forward and the engine went dead. Took me a minute to realize what happened. It never happened after that incident. I guess I was at fault, didn't depress the lever properly.
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I would just like to narrate one incident on False neutrals.

For some reason, there was a heavy traffic jam and as usual our super intelligent Motorcyclist resorted to foot path riding.

The footpath ended at one point and you'll have to drop the bike slowly to get back on the road. The bikes were doing it by one by one. Here comes a Rider in a pulsar of course. He was in the second gear (I guess) and then to move, he shifted to first. By then, the front wheel of the bike was on the road and back wheel was still on the pavement.

This was man was not too tall and his leg had already crossed the pavement and the pulsar shifted to neutral instead of first gear.

He vroomed the throttle but in vain and crashed. He was wearing a helmet and the traffic was still and nothing happened to him. The bike had a bent foot rest and scratches.

I'm not blaming the pulsar. It does give false neutrals. But watching out for it is the key. Footpath Riding was his stupidity and false neutral added to it.

desi, Congrats on your new bike.
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From the para's experience, it seems the false neutral can be the other way round too.
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Hmm. ride a bullet and you will get to know.
or for that matter ride a pulsar ug1 and u will get a false neutral, bajaj has improved so much that the gear box in the ug4-ug5 is as good as any sold around!
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False neutral refers to the state of the bike where the bike's display console shows that the bike is in Neutral though it is, in reality, in some gear (probably 1st or 2nd). This happened once on my bike. I was riding at 40 km/hr, when the signal turned red. I cursed myself, and came to a halt. Depressed the gear shifter two and a half times (Mine is a 1 down 4 up type bike), and as expected, the bike's console showed a big green N. I released the clutch, and the bike propped forward and the engine went dead. Took me a minute to realize what happened. It never happened after that incident. I guess I was at fault, didn't depress the lever properly.
The RE false neutral is the other way around: you change from 3rd to 2nd, for example, and find that you have no power on releasing the clutch. You are in a false neutral (the real neutral lines between 2nd and 1st). you have to tap the gear shift again to get into gear. It is infuriating till you get used to it.
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Yeah, that's what I realized on reading para's post.
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Awesome desi bhai

If you'd used a 5speed bullet, then we would've talked!!
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Congratulations on the new bike.
Ride safe.
do you miss the "feel" of the Bullet?
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