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Old 31st January 2014, 19:10   #541
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Here is a pic which a buddy of mine clicked a few weekends back, on our Sunday morning ride.

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And a couple of pics from the last weekend's ride (Shoolagiri McDonald's). I had Niranjan for company along with his Duke390.

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There is something in the KAWASAKI Colour, you can never move your eyes off any of the ninja babies. Love the photos buddy.
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Been a while since I updated this thread.

I was facing some minor issues with the bike for a while now and kept telling the mechanic at Auto Service where I get the bike attended to, that I was hearing some pinging metallic noise and it may be an issue with the valves.

During the 3rd service @ 30,000 kms, the valve clearances were checked and no issues were found. The shims were perfect too. Note that the valves on the ninja cannot be adjusted and if clearances are more than the specification, then the shim's are replaced.

But I still had the irritating noise from the engine.

After many trips back and forth, the diagnosis was that it could be the Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT) that was leading to the irritating cam/timing chain noise.

It could be? You can't say for sure?

A month or so back, I left the bike over at auto service. The CCT was removed and put back.

The sound disappeared and i was happy.

But my happiness was short lived. The metallic sound was back after a day's commute to work and back.

I turned to the Ninja 250 forums in USA and it turned out that the CCT's on the 250 are indeed a problem in the long run and need replacement every 30,000-35,000 kms.

The solution was to replace the offending part or plonk in a manual tensioner which could be adjusted manually. The CCT's on the 250 which are factory fitted are auto adjusting and hence no manual adjustment is possible.

A manual tensioner was not the solution for me since I did not know if the service guys here had the required knowledge to adjust it.

My bike was pretty much grounded since i did not have time to keep going back to the service center.

I (sorely) missed quite a few rides with my buddies as well.

All this while, the diagnosis and resulting work on my bike did not resolve the issue which left me frustrated and disappointed.

Last Friday, I called the Ninja service manager at Khivraj Motors, Indranagar and explained my predicament. He suspected it was the CCT that was causing the problem. I was in luck since the said part was also in stock.

Went to the service center, the mechanic took a spin and confirmed the noise was due to the CCT and needed replacement.

In under an hour, the CCT was replaced. Finally I heaved a huge sigh of relief. The irritating noise and my fears of further damage to the bike were resolved.

Super happy that the bike is back on the road. Only grouse is that the monsoons are approaching and I don't enjoy riding in the rains.

Will plan a trip soon which is long overdue.

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Quite a few updates since my last post, so here goes.

Got the rear tire changed a couple of months back. This is the 3rd tire on the bike including the factory fitted IRC. The 2nd tire (Pirelli Sport Demon) was slapped on at 17000 kms just before i hit the track at CBE.

I had bought and stored the Pirelli Sport Demon (130 profile as 140 was unavailable) at home for the last few months due to lack of supply. Got it fitted and at 36,000 kms I got the oil changed as well. Went with the usual Motul 7100 20W50 fully synth.

I also noticed the front fork oil leaking from the right shock absorber a couple of weeks back so promptly got the seal and oil replaced. I wonder how the fork seal busted since it never gave way in the last 36,000 kms.

Finally after ages, I managed to do a ride last Saturday and though it wasn't a very long ride, it was picturesque and enjoyable.

After a quick round of calls and messages, Aviorp on his white Ninja 300, schoudhury on his CBR 250R, another friend of mine (Vibhor) on his Ninja 250R and I headed out to Shivanasamudra, roughly 120 kms one way.

Here are the pics, shot and edited from my new Xiaomi Mi3.

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This last weekend I rode to Wayanad with 6 other riding buddies from Blore.

The annual tri-state meet at Wayanad attracted 75+ bikers from Bangalore, Chennai, Coimbatore and Cochin.

We left Blore on 12th Sep (Friday) and returned on 14th Sep (Sunday).

My last overnighter was many months ago to Kolli hills.

I had an opportunity to ride pillion on the mighty Triumph Tiger 800XC. Great bike for two-up touring.

Here are the pics:

Tea break on Mysore road, just after Maddur:


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A dear friend from Coimbatore restored this Suzuki Shogun. Looks like it just came from the factory. Looked brand new and better than "showroom condition"

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Lunch break with the Coimbatore folks:


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Enroute to the resort:


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The variety of bikes that made it to the big-biker-meet:


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My friends from Chennai on their Tigers:


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That's fellow member eaglef1 and a dear friend (Shoaib) on the extreme right:

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The tiger is so damn tall that I could barely reach the ground. I'm 5 ft. 7in. tall and yet could barely get my toes to make contact with the ground. Had to get 2 friends to hold the bike upright


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The 3-cyl engine on the tiger:

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I love that matt green shade:


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See how big it is compared to a regular bike:

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I was told that this was the first 300 to be delivered in the country:


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The Arrow slip-on with the baffle insert on the tiger. Sounds great and not too loud.


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The Arrow slip-on without the baffle insert on the matt green tiger. Loud but bearable and has a nice pop while rolling off the throttle.

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RE Conti GT:


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Quite a spacious box that also serves as a pillion back rest:


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ABS equipped:


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A close-up of the ABS system on the rear wheel of the tiger:


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That's the gas charger for the rear shock on the tiger:


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Close-up of the gear shifter on the tiger:


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Comfortable and spacious for two-up riding:


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This last weekend I rode to Wayanad with 6 other riding buddies from Blore.
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That is a sweet looking Shogun in Silver colors. Who owns it?
Somehow the Silencer bend does not look great for a bike that has been neatly restored.
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Few more pics. All images captured using my cell phone (Xiaomi Mi3) with no post processing.

Karapuzha Dam:


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Close-up:


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Aditya, That is a sweet looking Shogun in Silver colors. Who owns it?
Somehow the Silencer bend does not look great for a bike that has been neatly restored.
Owned by a friend from CBE. There was another RX which looked equally spotless and brand new with a custom exhaust.

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Been a while since I updated the thread so here goes.

The odo on the bike reads a few 100 kms short of 40,000 kms and she will be going in for a service soon.

At the last major service at the 30,000 kms mark, I changed all the fluids such as brake fluids, coolant, suspension fork oil, etc. in addition to the engine oil (which was changed recently at 36,000 kms).

On our ride to Wayanad last month, I noticed the engine case on the RHS had some white streaks splashed on it. I initially thought it must be some residual cement water (from curing) from the road in front of my house (dug up road was layered with concrete over a small area) but turned out it was the coolant that was leaking from the coolant reservoir.

I could manage to force my fingers through the fairing to check the intensity of the leak and found that the leak was from the pipe as shown below.

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*image sourced from the internet.

The leak was very minor and intermittent. Used to drip very lightly on it's own accord.

I took the bike to Khivraj motors at Indranagar and they checked if the pipe was bleeding or cut anywhere. There was no visual damage and it was leaking at the point where the pipe fits onto the coolant reservoir outlet as marked in the picture above. The mouth of the rubber pipe was cut a few mm since it may have expanded due to heat and fitted back.

But the problem did not disappear.

The leak increased although not like a spray it is much more drippier than earlier.

I took the bike to Auto Service at banashankari and the mechanic stripped off the fairings and checked the pipe. A replacement was ordered almost a month ago and I am still waiting for the part to arrive.

The same part was also order at Khivraj but no news on when it will arrive.

It seems there is no stock of this pipe at the factory in Pune too.

The leak though is not severe. I check the coolant level regularly and the level is pretty much within the lower and upper levels, but this is a cause for concern.

Although this is a minor issue, I am completely disappointed with the delay in sourcing the said part. Why does it take 3+ weeks to locate a rubber pipe and send it to a customer?

Bajaj seems to have taken the success of KTM to their head and have completely ignored us kawasaki owners.

I must say that the quality of service has reduced to the pits significantly and consistently in the last couple of years.

Now, I'm not expecting royal treatment or special treatment but the sheer number of KTM's sold seems to have shifted the focus of Bajaj from the kawasaki brand.

First off, there are only 1 or 2 mechanics trained to attend to the ninja's and they are completely occupied. Even after booking an appointment and leaving the bike overnight, the bike is attended to only the next day (and sometimes delivered after 2 or more days of leaving the bike at the service center). So why ask us to leave the bikes overnight?

Another example is the quality of wash at Khivraj which is pathetic. The last time I went over for this issue, the bike was dirty from the rains and one of the service staff (wearing a KTM tee shirt) asked if I wanted the bike washed. I agreed for a wash and when it was brought into the service bay, there was still mud and dirt on the rear tail, exhaust pipe, radiator, wheels, etc. I pointed this out and the reply was that there are many bikes and hence they couldn't do a thorough job.

I politely told the staff that they shouldn't have offered to wash the bike (although it was charged and not free) if they couldn't do a proper wash and if they had too many bikes to wash in their capacity. They took the bike back for a wash (more delays) and after an hour's wait, it was back to the service bay.

Now I have decided that I would myself wash the bike at home the previous day to the service henceforth.

Sadly, the step motherly treatment makes me feel as if I am taking a pulsar for a service and paying for a car instead.

Mind you, the service is not cheap. I paid over 5k in labor at the 30,000 kms service mark. IIRC, labor is charged at 600+ bucks per hour.

And this is what we customers get.

And, I'm still waiting for the pipe to arrive with no timelines or indicative dates on when it would be available.

God forbid someone should crash their bike. It would probably take them many months to get off their KTM branded chairs and take notice of the Kawasaki owner.

P.S. Not intending to hurt anyone's sentiments, esp. those of KTM owners but this is a reality I want Bajaj (in case they are reading) and others to know.

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Sadly, the step motherly treatment makes me feel as if I am taking a pulsar for a service and paying for a car instead.

Mind you, the service is not cheap. I paid over 5k in labor at the 30,000 kms service mark. IIRC, labor is charged at 600+ bucks per hour.

And this is what we customers get.

And, I'm still waiting for the pipe to arrive with no timelines or indicative dates on when it would be available.

God forbid someone should crash their bike. It would probably take them many months to get off their KTM branded chairs and take notice of the Kawasaki owner.

P.S. Not intending to hurt anyone's sentiments, esp. those of KTM owners but this is a reality I want Bajaj (in case they are reading) and others to know.
Thanks Aditya for this post. As you know, some time back, after selling Baby Duke, I was toying with the idea of buying a low run used 250. Had shortlisted a number of bikes and had come close to buying a few of them. Later on thanks to a number of friends and veteran bikers advising to the contrary, both here and elsewhere, especially with regard to the performance, resale, and parts availaibility, not to mention that most clean 250s by now are on at least their second owners, I gave that idea up. Your post has come as the proverbial last nail in that particular coffin. And I don't think matters would be all that much better for the old style N650 either.

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Sad to know about your experience Adi.

But, the fact remains its business after all

Every business will pay attention to where they get volumes. Having said that, its not an excuse to ignore Kawasakis but, a lesson for people prospecting to buy one so they are wary of this situation.
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a lesson for people prospecting to buy one so they are wary of this situation.
Very true. In fact its a vicious cycle. As news of this gets out, more N250 guys will want to dump their bikes on to the market. But equally, there will be fewer buyers. Especially with better options available cheaper. The golden window for selling N250s at premium resale prices is well and truly over. The RC in fact was the final nail. Now prices are going to tumble and crash, but guys like me who were waiting for that to happen are no longer interested and are already looking elsewhere.

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Parts availability was always a problem for Kawasaki. I have seen many 250Rs awaiting parts in the SVC. Is the 300 too facing the same problem? How about the 650?
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Thank you Aditya for the post. As a new Ninja owner, i am even more convinced now (post our discussions over PM) that a new exhaust is best avoided. Our Ninja should be going in for the second service in sometime and i would surely update you if its the same in Delhi as well. For every Ninja 250/300/650 i have seen in Delhi, i have seen atleast 20-25 Dukes.

I really hope that no one has to face what you are currenly facing (waiting for a simple rubber pipe!) and this situation improves ASAP.

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The problem squarely is with the company taking ownership with respect to keeping an inventory of parts and their attitude towards customers.

Most of the parts on the bike like the hoses, brake lines, meters etc, are made locally and sent to Thailand for QC. Surely, it would take no more than a week for the company to make the parts available if they were really customer centric.

I can order the part on eBay and it will reach me in less than the time Bajaj is taking currently. Looks like this is going the Yamaha RD way of maintaining the bike.

While I can easily dispose off the bike and get another quick-off-the-shelf bike like KTM or Triumph or even the HD, this is one bike that I really connect with and sets my heart into rapid beats even after so many years of ownership. The bike is brilliant and in my personal experience of owning the bike for the past 4.5 years and 40,000 kms, she is still a breeze to ride.

The cost of maintenance is obscenely expensive but the sheer riding pleasure and the connection you feel while on this machine cannot be explained. You'd forget all the economics once you suit up and start riding. A flawless machine but not getting the care it needs.

I sincerely hope someone from Bajaj stumbles across this and takes measures to protect the legacy of the kawasaki brand. It's already dwindling sales is just a matter of time that prospective customers will just ignore the brand altogether and move to "greener" pastures.
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Sorry to hear about your spares problem but I think it is not going to get any better as days go by.
I still remember the time when you put up your Ninja for sale in classifieds and I was tempted to dial you up but you later withdrew it citing the heartache.
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I can order the part on eBay and it will reach me in less than the time Bajaj is taking currently. Looks like this is going the Yamaha RD way of maintaining the bike.
If you plan to hold on to the bike, you'd best start doing exactly that. There was a site some Ninja guy had told me about when I was in the market. Genuine Ninja parts, prices (with freight and custom/taxes) cheaper than what Bajaj sells them for here in India. And delivery in days (not weeks to months as is the norm now in India).

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While I can easily dispose off the bike and get another quick-off-the-shelf bike like KTM or Triumph or even the HD
I don't know about the easy part. A lot of the Ninja guys with equally if not cleaner bikes than yours, with equally if not higher expectations, have now over the past couple of months been calling up slashing their original prices (at which they had stuck to, rigidly refusing to budge) by as much as 30K. And this is at the mobile/whatsapp "final/last price" stage. Face to face, smell of cash in hand, is always good for another 5-15K depending on the need and desperation. Sorry for being the bearer of harsh tidings, but just sharing my experience as a prospective Ninja buyer (no no more so) from the past 3-4 months. Of course I do know that the market in Bangalore is slightly different, prices slightly higher, than here in Pune/Mumbai. So you could realistically expect a max of 15-20K over our prices here if you get a really good buyer.
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