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Old 14th May 2011, 14:59   #601
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Just came back from the dealership. I had booked the 1.6 base diesel on 7th May, but saw it today for the first time. Some random thoughts:

1. Looks beautiful. Definitely one of the better looking cars in the segment.
2. Rear visibility is a joke. Thank god the parking sensors are standard equipment.
3. Sitting in the back is a little claustrophobic, due to the small rear windows. Similiar to the Swift.
4. All doors shut with a nice 'thunk'. The shut lines were tight too, no wide-open panel gaps like the one in this review were seen.

Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase. Its already 128bhp and the plan is to pete it the day I get it
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Does any one has an idea about ground clearance of ANHV? I didn't come accross on this in this thread or probably missed.
Even its not mentioned in just updated Hyundai's site. US specs of Accent (Verna) has clearance of 147mm and do have 16" wheels. Grossly inadequate as per India's std if it is such!
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Thanks for the calculation Vinu. However the 1.4 variants sport a tyre size of 185/65 R15 (& not R16 as you have pointed out above). The Tyre diameters you have mentioned through are quite correct 620.9 mm for 1.6 variant & 621.50 mm for the 1.4 variant.

Had the size of 1.4 variant been 185/65 R16, the tyre diameter would have come out as 646.9 mm



Others, please correct me if I am wrong.
The tire's specs here is concerned to the height. It is the aspect ratio of the tire profile which governs overall height. In case of 195/55R16 the aspect ratio is 107.25mm and for 185/65R16 it's 120.25, but the 1" difference of rim adequateley compensates this difference.
Hence, GC will not vary much with either of these tire sizes.

Meanwhile, thanks for confirmation on 165mm, this GC issue struck me only after when I'd paid for advance booking for 1.6 D AT.
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It appears that the website for the new Verna is not yet fully ready.
Some of the pages simply would not open

Hope that the Hyundai guys who boast of a tag line of "New thinking New possibilities" do something; Or is it a "new" way to market their newly launched cars.
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It appears that the website for the new Verna is not yet fully ready.
Some of the pages simply would not open

Hope that the Hyundai guys who boast of a tag line of "New thinking New possibilities" do something; Or is it a "new" way to market their newly launched cars.
Gautam, please try to open the website in Internet Explorer. Strangely it doesn't open either in Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. I opened it in IE & no problem whatsoever.
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Had been to Trident hyundai. The car looks really good. The rear view is non-existent. Rear view sensors are a must for this car. It looks way bigger than the current fiesta. Ample space in the front and rear. SX version is pretty good value, auto diesel is way too pricey for what it offers(4-speed). Wifey says its better looking than the Vento and also the interiors are better according to her. I feel quality was better in the vento. But the part that might affect Vento is the waiting period. I was told 8 months for a highline diesel. Thats just ridiculous in this day and age. Looks like Maruti bug has hit VW. Don't think the vento is that good to wait for 8 months.
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Thanks for the calculation Vinu. However the 1.4 variants sport a tyre size of 185/65 R15 (& not R16 as you have pointed out above). The Tyre diameters you have mentioned through are quite correct 620.9 mm for 1.6 variant & 621.50 mm for the 1.4 variant.

Had the size of 1.4 variant been 185/65 R16, the tyre diameter would have come out as 646.9 mm

Others, please correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct. That was a typo! Also, the ride height can be increased by few mm, you can go for 205*55*R16. 11mm by tyre diameter. However, I also see the tyres precariously close to the wheel arch with stock set up and this upgrade might not work out as it may scrape the wheel arches.
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Checked out the Verna today, Great looking car with lots of choices, still a way out of my reach....
Prices in Nagpur:
Petrol
1.4 789494
1.6 865692
1.6SX 932835
1.6SX(o) MT 1011169
1.6SX(o) AT 1089505

Diesel
1.4 912569
1.6 988928
1.6SX 1056078
1.6SX(o) MT 1144662
1.6SX(o) AT 1223659

Waiting according SP is 2 Months.
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Gautam, please try to open the website in Internet Explorer. Strangely it doesn't open either in Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. I opened it in IE & no problem whatsoever.
Dear AutoIndian,

I must say that you seem to be a very polite guy.

attached is the screen grab of firefox and the website below. no problem at all. Have seen all the Safety/Interiors/Exterior images.
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Further I wanted to share some opinions on the 1km test drive of the CRDI SX.

1. First on the rear seat when someone else was driving. There was around 2" of space over my head on the sides. Sitting in the center raised profile, my head grazed the roof. NO i'm not super tall, just 5'10". There goes my idea to increase the cushion under the thigh to level out the uneven rear seat. It will be mostly be ok for kids and women folk who are of average height. I must mention that the Vento or the Polo were not better by any big margins also in this scene. No idea of other sedans.

2. The ORVM did not seem to fold in completely when viewed from the driver seat. May they do when looked at from outside.

3. The turbo picked up from 2000 rpm and did not increase suddenly. The car felt fairly ok below that.

4. After this I drove the Polo and Vento. The Verna was quiet and the Vento and polo were noisy. That was the impression with the figo also some days earlier. Being used to the i10, the Verna seems to very much appealing.

5. As someone else mentioned, the sales people confirmed that the GC was 165 mm. Will check with a tape after asking 5 people to sit with some weight in the boot in the next detailed drive.

6. Volume Controls on the steering were handy.

7. Met a chap who referred to Team-BHP for advice. Asked him to base his decision after a thorough study of his requirement. Pity that the sales force tell him to take a petrol after he states he drives 40KM/day but give no reasons nor explain any details of diesel and petrol.

8. Very difficult to see who is following you. The reverse camera and sensors do nothing to help in this case. The IRVM does not even cover the rear pillars, forcing you to rely on the ORVM's. A slightly convex IRVM might have been better. The ORVM controls are handy.

9. The seat fabric quality was like ordinary and passable. An aftermarket upgrade will be very desirable.

10. The ride quality seems to be acceptable in city which will matter the most.

11. Trying to understand the DIS and trying to find the screen which shows average fuel consumption (I think the 7th of 8 among the DIS screens in the brochure from left to right), i'm a bit shocked to see a figure of "7". (I might be wrong about the screen)

I apologize in advance if this paragraph is not called for but for those of you who don't have the brochure, the link for the Verna Brochure download is on page 31 in this thread. The brochure download from their site was giving a pdf file error yesterday.

A question: What is that Yellow coil spring type indicator on the instrument console below left of the rpm gauge and small symbol at the right of the speedometer?

Thanks.

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the front looks very close to i20 & i10

i will think twice paying 10 lacs on this car - does this brand owe that much
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Guys as i have booked 1.6 SX O diesel white color, i dint even know the price of the car otr mumbai,thanks to u guys i know my car cost me 11,77,000 otr,i asked the dealer to do thane reg,but he told me they have stopped thane reg,if u dont have a valid address,Most of my cars are thane reg.Just to tell u people how silent the diesel engine is,When i went to see the car in the showroom,they had 1.6 SX O auto.i did end up starting the car,and it was very silent,if u move little away u wont even know the car is running,in the showroom soo silent,imagine on the road.Will be going for my test drive soon,iam sure its gonna be a rocking car,being a current verna owner,very xcited about the new verna,cant ask for more in a car.
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A question: What is that Yellow coil spring type indicator on the instrument console below left of the rpm gauge and small symbol at the right of the speedometer?
According to me whenever a diesel car is started, the diesel is to be heated, so when you switch the ignition on, the yellow coil spring symbol indicates that the diesel is being heated and after a few seconds its gone, one should than crank the ignition, not before that as it could damage the engine. Its same for all diesel engine cars and does not apply to petrol engine cars. No idea about small symbol at the right of the speedometer as I have not yet test driven Hyundai Verna.
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Got this sheet, a mini comparison on specs on Vento Highline and Verna SX....
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1. First on the rear seat when someone else was driving. There was around 2" of space over my head on the sides. Sitting in the center raised profile, my head grazed the roof. NO i'm not super tall, just 5'10". There goes my idea to increase the cushion under the thigh to level out the uneven rear seat. It will be mostly be ok for kids and women folk who are of average height. I must mention that the Vento or the Polo were not better by any big margins also in this scene. No idea of other sedans.


5. As someone else mentioned, the sales people confirmed that the GC was 165 mm. Will check with a tape after asking 5 people to sit with some weight in the boot in the next detailed drive.
I am 182 cm tall. Even while sitting at the rear sides, my hair brushed against the roof. Wonder what happens if the car hits a bump!. The sales person was shocked to notice this. I checked with an i20 that was parked nearby. The head room was much better. I would like to quote H. Sorabjee while he was describing Punto interiors in ACI review "space has been sacrificed at the altair of style". Very unfortunate to have a cramped rear in a 10 L car.

I felt that the seats were smaller in comparison to the bolsterng seats of swift even! The rear seat is contoured for 2. Squeezing a third person may be difficult considring the contours, head room and the arm rest. I am sorry to say that Verna is a strict 4 seater.

Here we have a car that is NOT designed keeping the indian interests (like Etios), but keeping the European and American customers in mind.

Just as we quote the trunk volum in litres, there should be a mechanism to measure the passenger cabin space also.

My left knee was touching against the central console. The pedal well seemed to be cramped (in comparison to space champions SX4, Manza, Logan, Etios). I could figure out a dead pedal somewhere in the depth.

Inside, everything seemed small, be the console, steering, dials, seats or whatever I saw (may be it was just a feeling). The overall packaging seems to be good with limited overhangs and long wheel base.

The GC of 165mm may be a bit low considering the long wheel base.

Other than these, Hyundai has a winner in hands with features hitherto unknown to the segment. I was in dialogue with a Maruti representative after taking a TD of SX4. The mood seems to be disappointment there after seeing the car in flesh. I would have loved to own one, but the lack of space pulls me back.

The prices (Rs.) in Trivandrum for diesel verna

1.4 884010
1.6 975600
1.6 sx 1041944
1.6 sx (o) 1119344



Offered a test drive to me. Looking forward to that.

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Got this sheet, a mini comparison on specs on Vento Highline and Verna SX....
The same comparison of the models from carwale..

Compare Volkswagen Vento Highline Diesel vs Hyundai Verna Fluidic 1.6 CRDI SX - CarWale

Whats the weight of Verna?
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A question: What is that Yellow coil spring type indicator on the instrument console below left of the rpm gauge and small symbol at the right of the speedometer?
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According to me whenever a diesel car is started, the diesel is to be heated, so when you switch the ignition on, the yellow coil spring symbol indicates that the diesel is being heated and after a few seconds its gone, one should than crank the ignition, not before that as it could damage the engine. Its same for all diesel engine cars and does not apply to petrol engine cars. No idea about small symbol at the right of the speedometer as I have not yet test driven Hyundai Verna.
Am making a few changes/ additions to the explanation...

Diesel engines do not have spark plugs. The piston compresses the air in the cylinder making it pretty hot. Diesel is sprayed in this hot, under-pressure air, making it ignite due to the heat - resulting in combustion, pushing the piston down, making the crankshaft rotate - this rotation is translated through gears to the wheels.

The pressure required to heat the air to a temperature that will make the fine spray of Diesel to combust makes it necessary to make the engine block very thick and strong (and hence Diesels are heavier than their petrol counterparts). However, this causes a problem where the engine is too cold when not used for while, say overnight. When you start it in the morning, the piston will pressurize the air alright, making it hot - but most of the heat gets absorbed by the cold engine block.

Hence Diesel engines come with what is called a glow-plug, which pre-heats the combustion chamber (in case of direct injection engines). The yellow coil spring indicator, if on, denotes that the engine is being pre-heated, and you have to wait a second for it to turn off before you crank the engine.

The indicator will be on longer if the car is unused for a long time. If it was just switched off couple of hours back, it will almost immediately go off.

Who remembers how old Amby Diesels have a "Heater" button that the driver will hold on to, while holding the other hand near a silver, dotted vent to see if he can feel the heat?
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