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Old 23rd June 2011, 23:49   #196
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So the Verna has a fantastic diesel engine but lacklustre handling. The Vento has good dynamics and a good engine but lacks features. The Fiesta looks to have excellent dynamics but average engines.

Pick your poison. Each car has different traits.

Competition is so much fun.
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So the Verna has a fantastic diesel engine but lacklustre handling. The Vento has good dynamics and a good engine but lacks features. The Fiesta looks to have excellent dynamics but average engines.

Pick your poison. Each car has different traits.

Competition is so much fun.
Rightly said and put Boss! But you forgot to mention that features are one of Fiesta's strengths too
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New ford videos about fiesta..

Coming soon: A ride with Stefan Muenzinger



All-new Ford Fiesta: Why it drives the best (and looks good too)! | Driving Ford
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1) How exactly does it work? Benefits?
2) What is this for?
1. Informs you of the danger of water in diesel fuel so you should drain the tank and discard the fuel as water can't be compressed by the engine.

2. Informs of a fault in the engine and makes the car run in limp mode to prevent further damage to the power train. Must get it checked immediately.
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Personally, I am very disappointed with the new Fiesta. The biggest USP of a fiesta was the sheer fun of driving it (leaving aside the maintenance issues). Now that Ford seems to emasculated the new Fiesta, it becomes another me-too car in the segment. Where is the character?
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Personally, I am very disappointed with the new Fiesta. The biggest USP of a fiesta was the sheer fun of driving it (leaving aside the maintenance issues). Now that Ford seems to emasculated the new Fiesta, it becomes another me-too car in the segment. Where is the character?
I was thinking of the Fiesta as a possible next car.. but not too keen anymore even if it was priced way low!!
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So the Verna has a fantastic diesel engine but lacklustre handling. The Vento has good dynamics and a good engine but lacks features. The Fiesta looks to have excellent dynamics but average engines.

Pick your poison. Each car has different traits.

Competition is so much fun.
You hit the nail right on the head there vid! Looking at a diesel car and ive narrowed down my choices to these three cars. After all the initial hype (esp regarding the 1.6 motors), i thought the fiesta fit the bill perfectly. After reading the review it seems its somewhat of a damp squib. More lag + taller gearing totally kills it.

One question for Ajmat though, have you driven the old Fiesta diesel? Can you give a comparison of performance between the two? With regards to initial acceleration (ie specifically lag. I know its been covered already but would appreciate if you could elaborate), in gear performance (20-80 in 3rd, 40-100 in 4th), mid range and top end performance. Im probably asking for too much but hopefully you can answer at least a few of these questions. Thanks!

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It needs to be priced right from Day 1; there’s no scope for price-cuts, discounts and special editions as was the case with the Escort, Ikon and earlier Fiesta.

At the front, the chrome-lipped trapezoid grille and the multi-element headlamps work really well together to give it an aggressive head-on view. If you get a fleeting glance of a “Kinetic Blue” Fiesta in your rear view mirror, you can’t help but think you’re being chased by a close relative of the Focus RS.


195/60R15 tyres on 8-spoke alloy wheels. Drum brakes at the rear

Chiseled cheekbones
Yes, pricing is the main part. This could sell 5000 cars a month if it is priced right, beating the competition.
If now, If ford wants to shun away from such huge numbers, they could price it closer to the Verna and do 2000 cars a month.
But this car will sell for sure. There are more takers even if not priced right.

You called it right. Its got an 'Evil' look.

The 195 tyres make it stand taller. It somehow does not make it all that racy.

Chiseled cheekbones: The fog lamps somehow does not go in sync with the head lamp assembly. They could have done with a Ridged Fog lamp assembly just like the head lamp outermost lights.

The rear styling is exactly the same as it US S/SE sedan versions. This is an okay job considering all other converted models. I Guess, the front is very gracious and it overtakes any other perspective
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Rightly said and put Boss! But you forgot to mention that features are one of Fiesta's strengths too
Yes the Fiesta offers the best compromise I feel. Features, good dynamics and decent engines.

Although after driving the Verna or the Vento one will be disappointed with the 1.5TDCi engine.
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US & Europe version have button. Its not indicator! They have passenger sensing senor, but this i believe mostly to seat belt warning rather than Airbags! Mustang can clarify here.

Apart from this most of dual airbag cars in India doesn't have weight sensing sensors to switch off passenger Airbag. Good to see Manza providing this option. IIRC even I10 & I20 have button to disable passenger airbag (I could be wrong here)! I don't see them in Vento or in ANHV, owners can confirm.
Hi Ragu,

My Fiesta SXi 2009 (Classic as it is called now), though does not have the "Passenger ON/OFF switch" as default, but it has a provision/place to add that switch from the service center.

I came to know this only yesterday when I was casually browsing through the service booklet (Car Safety sections). The same was mentioned there and when I checked in the car immediately after, I indeed saw the place for it.

Open the glovebox and you will find the provision in the top right corner inside.

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Excellent review there Rehaan! 5 stars added.

I guess Ford has done their homework very well and has made a very practical move

Enthusiasts are disappointed b'cos of average engines but then there is Verna & Vento in Diesel & Linea T-jet & Honda City in Petrol which are better.

Gizmo freaks would be happy that it has a lot of features but will be a lil disappointed that the Fiesta is still not the benchmark and there is the Fluidic Verna leading the pack.

I guess as always the Ford build quality would be good but then there is Linea as the benchmark.

Enthusiasts would be happy that Ford has banked on it's strengths of excellent Ride, Handling and a communicative Steering. But then there is again Linea which is still a cut above in all these aspects.

FE conscious would be happy to read the ARAI figures but the competition is also on par with Vento & Linea in Diesel and City in Petrol providing good FE.

For those who are looking for Total Cost of Ownership the Fiesta should turn out to be on par or cheaper than the competition.

Now finally it will come down to pricing and that's where I'm sure Ford is going to come out trumps. They are surely going to undercut the competition and that will surely bring in numbers like the Figo.

For me the New Fiesta is a Jack of all trades and master of some and will surely keep everyone interested
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Yes the Fiesta offers the best compromise I feel. Features, good dynamics and decent engines.

Although after driving the Verna or the Vento one will be disappointed with the 1.5TDCi engine.
I own a 1.4TDCi and I feel the performance is adequate. Yes, its not as powerful as the Verna/Vento but does its job and does it well. The new verna is a jack of all trades (except features where its the king). The Vento has a superb engine but the handling is not as good as the previous fiesta and the steering feel is pathetic. Also the engine sounds too clattery. The new fiesta seems to have been designed keeping the mass market in mind but also at the same time Ford seems to have kept the trademark Ford dynamics intact. Only the bulky rear design is a put-off.
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• The AT version actually got better FE figures than the MT in the USA tests. There are three reasons for this: it’s a dual-clutch, so there’s no wasteful torque converter in there; the optimal shift points are pre-programmed in; and the AT is a 6-speed whereas the manual is a 5-speed. Ford, here’s your chance to bring in this DCT and capture this niche. More-so if it’s paired to a diesel engine!
This might be because americans cant drive manual cars. You would be surprised to know how many americans have never seen a 'stick shift' (as they call it.) in their lives.

The thread was a wonderful read, thanks for posting it up, I got a chance to see this car in Delhi, inside a mall. Sadly they didn't let me sit in it. Ever since the Mondeo I've been dying to get a Ford.
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Lot of guys are disappointed to see a 1.5Ltr instead of a 1.6 ltr in NFS. Is this frustration more from not getting their expectations met, which is created by the news floating around initially on a possible 1.6ltr motor or is there a real sea difference those two specs (diff of 0.1). After going through this thread (Engine Capacity (cc) or Power (bhp)??) , I felt 90 bhp to be the compromise for an enthusiastic (iam not one )

I have read in many TBHP threads, the figures in paper does not show you the real picture. To give you an example

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What manufacturers show you is the engine horsepower/torque. What actually matters is the wheel horsepower/torque.
What would the case, if this NFS has 10-15 extra BHP?
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Personally, I am very disappointed with the new Fiesta. The biggest USP of a fiesta was the sheer fun of driving it (leaving aside the maintenance issues). Now that Ford seems to emasculated the new Fiesta, it becomes another me-too car in the segment. Where is the character?
Different people different perceptions. I feel the new Fiesta oozes character. And what would have happened if the engine was not emasculated? At the best, give competition to the excellent T-Jet – on power, as well as for lack of sales!

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Yes the Fiesta offers the best compromise I feel. Features, good dynamics and decent engines.

Although after driving the Verna or the Vento one will be disappointed with the 1.5TDCi engine.
Well, said, I think that was Ford’s aim as well – to provide the best compromise without diluting their basic traits. If you notice, none of the reviews (Team-BHP, or outside publications) have said anything drastically negative about the 1.5 TDCi. Infact I feel the petrol got some flak because of the superior diesel.
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